Michael Irvin: "Horrific offseason..."

[odog422]

Point was, after Green Bay, focus should've been on bringing core pieces together - Dez, Murray - to make them understand that they weren't just vital pieces, but that the Cowboys had finally once again established an identity, bond and unity. A single-minded team that had been missing since the SB days. That's the key element he felt was lost and the single most important reason why this season has been such a struggle (in addition to the obvious).

This season began with a team that didn't know who it was because the delicate chemistry was changed and broken from last year.

I agree when I remember how the team talked about being physical and having an identity before Murray left. I think this is a key point that has been lost and is oh so important. Michael thought this was the single most important point as to why the Cowboys are where they are today.

 

[Risen Star]

Spare me the identity nonsense. The season was lost because you replaced Murray with crap and the QB went down. So you went from having some chance to no chance.

 

[coult44]

Spare me the identity nonsense. The season was lost because you replaced Murray with crap and the QB went down. So you went from having some chance to no chance.

Spoken from Somone who never played a team sport in his life!!!

 

[JoeyBoy718]

People were saying this off season was a home run. Give me a break. The only consensus was that we weren't as strong at RB. But even then, people said Murray wasn't worth what Philly paid him AND that Murray was no elite RB. The other thing people weren't happy about was that we continued to roll with Hayden at 1-tech. So that's two things. People were ecstatic about the draft, the Hardy deal, and a few other deals. There was a bunch of Jerry for GM of the Year talk, so spare me that "horrific off season" crap.

 

[Risen Star]

Spoken from Somone who never played a team sport in his life!!!

You have no idea what you're talking about.

But create whatever scenario you need to to feel better.

 

[odog422]

Spare me the identity nonsense. The season was lost because you replaced Murray with crap and the QB went down. So you went from having some chance to no chance.

Mike also said most people in Dallas said he was crazy - kind of went with what you said. Point is, after the fact, I agree with you in terms of the course of action taken. His point was the more significant issue was allowing the dismantling of what had been built within during the season. But I get you think that's nonsense.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

People were saying this off season was a home run. Give me a break. The only consensus was that we weren't as strong at RB. But even then, people said Murray wasn't worth what Philly paid him AND that Murray was no elite RB. The other thing people weren't happy about was that we continued to roll with Hayden at 1-tech. So that's two things. People were ecstatic about the draft, the Hardy deal, and a few other deals. There was a bunch of Jerry for GM of the Year talk, so spare me that "horrific off season" crap.

What a smug, elitist post. Just kidding, it was spot on.

 

[The Quest for Six]

The three people I pay NO attention too when talking about the Cowboys is Jerry Jones, Jason Garrett and Michael Irvin

 

[robjay04]

Spare me the identity nonsense. The season was lost because you replaced Murray with crap and the QB went down. So you went from having some chance to no chance.

I truly do not believe Murray would've equaled anymore wins this season. Our running game has been damn good considering the way our quarterback play has been. Still a borderline top 10 unit that has been even better since McFadden took over.

Romo is our identity and leader, that is the single biggest reason for our failure this season and that had nothing to do with the offseason.

 

[odog422]

People were saying this off season was a home run. Give me a break. The only consensus was that we weren't as strong at RB. But even then, people said Murray wasn't worth what Philly paid him AND that Murray was no elite RB. The other thing people weren't happy about was that we continued to roll with Hayden at 1-tech. So that's two things. People were ecstatic about the draft, the Hardy deal, and a few other deals. There was a bunch of Jerry for GM of the Year talk, so spare me that "horrific off season" crap.

Think you're also missing the point. I won't restate, but I absolutely get why he says what he did.

 

[CATCH17]

Spare me the identity nonsense. The season was lost because you replaced Murray with crap and the QB went down. So you went from having some chance to no chance.

I agree with half of that..

I think the RBs would've produced even better than they have if we had Romo.

Not upset at all with the RBs. We do still need a young guy though.


Dallas had an amazing offseason imo. That rookie class was as good as you could ever ask for.

 

[tyke1doe]

Every thing went out the window when Romo went down.
Maybe the running game would have been better if Romo never got injured.
We'll see next year, assuming Romo stays healthy next year.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Spare me the identity nonsense. The season was lost because you replaced Murray with crap and the QB went down. So you went from having some chance to no chance.

Murray had nothing to do with it. Not bringing him back was smart.

 

[tyke1doe]

I agree with half of that..

I think the RBs would've produced even better than they have if we had Romo.

Not upset at all with the RBs. We do still need a young guy though.


Dallas had an amazing offseason imo. That rookie class was as good as you could ever ask for.

Thanks for correcting your post. The incorrect version had me scratching my head.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You have no idea what you're talking about.

But create whatever scenario you need to to feel better.

The concept is called esprit de corps. Getting people to forgo ego and instead believe in the group or in our instance team. It was romanticized with equality in The Three Musketeers by the phrase "All for one and one for all."

It's a well understood concept and the military amongst other places puts great emphasis on such things to great tactical success.

Thing is that you either have to coerce or you have to reason with someone to get them to really believe in such things. You at the very least understand the benefit of yourself to such a dynamic with how you've treated the entire like system to your aggrandizement.

Now someone who is a narcissist or another who lacks empathy would by definition not be able to really believe in esprit de corps either. Reason or no.

 

[CATCH17]

Thanks for correcting your post. The incorrect version had me scratching my head.

Lol spell check got me.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

I agree with half of that..

I think the RBs would've produced even better than they have if we had Romo.

Not upset at all with the RBs. We do still need a young guy though.


Dallas had an amazing offseason imo. That rookie class was as good as you could ever ask for.

Yep. The biggest mistake we made with RB was that it took us so long to get it figured out. Murray would still be our best RB but I do like the combo of McFadden and Turbin. I think we would've had a very successful running game if Romo stayed healthy and we were set on McFadden/Turbin from the beginning. The problem was that we spent half the season experimenting with knuckleheads like Randle and Michael.

 

[StylisticS]

I don't think Risen Star was saying we should have kept Murray. Is that we didn't really replace him.

 

[odog422]

The concept is called esprit de corps. Getting people to forgo ego and instead believe in the group or in our instance team. It was romanticized with equality in The Three Musketeers by the phrase "All for one and one for all."

It's a well understood concept and the military amongst other places puts great emphasis on such things to great tactical success.

I'll be honest Fuzzy, I don't know that I've ever really agreed with any of your posts, but credit where it's due - you get it. Thanks.

 

[Craig]

Irvin was a great wide receiver, but there is a reason his post playing job amounts to "if these guys score more points than those guys, these guys will win".

If they would have kept the team together theyd have ten million a year riding the bench and dez and romo would still be hurt...so maybe theyd have 4 wins, maybe less.