Michael Irvin on Tony Romo

Eddie

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I hope this gives the FO a vision of the future without Romo. The end is going to happen very soon ... probably A LOT faster than Jerry Jones believes.

Now is the time to get his successor on this team.
 

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Hater..
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hahaha...

This whole notion of calling anybody a "hater" because they criticize a particular player is nonsense. The word "hater" is a juvenile word to begin with and is commonly misplaced on this board.
 

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This whole notion of calling anybody a "hater" because they criticize a particular player is nonsense. The word "hater" is a juvenile word to begin with and is commonly misplaced on this board.

Sometimes the word fits... Like when another poster recently said that he can "almost guarantee that Romo will get hurt again before the season is over"... That's a textbook example of being a hater...
 

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I hope this gives the FO a vision of the future without Romo. The end is going to happen very soon ... probably A LOT faster than Jerry Jones believes.

Now is the time to get his successor on this team.

The thing is, even if we actually draft a QB and he's good, the chances of them being as good as Romo are pretty slim unless we're EXTREMELY lucky.

So, even if we do everything correctly, there's still going to be a dropoff and that's pretty depressing.
 

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I hope this gives the FO a vision of the future without Romo. The end is going to happen very soon ... probably A LOT faster than Jerry Jones believes.

Now is the time to get his successor on this team.

Tom Brady is 38yo, and still playing at an extremely high level, and he has no plans on retiring anytime soon... What makes you so certain that Romo can not do the same? I know he had back surgery, but I also know that he had a MVP worthy season immediately following his back surgery in 2014... I saw him still able to juke JJ Watt out of his jockstrap last season... Tony has already stated that he wants to play at least another 3-4 seasons beyond the 2015 season, and I don't see any reason why he won't be able to do it... So if Tony's right and he plays another 4 seasons, that means the "successor" doesn't takeover until the start of the 2020 season, which hardly makes it a pressing need... I'm not saying don't draft a QB, but don't draft one high, and there's no need to force anything, it can really wait until 2017-18 if need be... Upgrading the backup QB is something different... It would be nice to find a backup QB that's at least a little better than Weeden or Cassel, but drafting a QB probably wouldn't help that, because most rookie QB's would not be any better...
 

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Maybe it's juvenile if it's not true.
It's dead on the mark on some occasions around here.
Other times, not so much.

It has nothing to do with juveline. The age of a person has nothing to do with the ability to think or act like a rational and well-educated human.
And its never "dead on" and never "true". Because its a cliche and the world is much more complex. And of course its never used with a reason of being "true" or "dead on".

It shows that those people lack a discussion culture.

Those people who use such words/cliches as a "killer-argument" are (in fact) not able to argue in favor of their own opinion and cant accept that others have other view of things.
They are not able to or not willing to accept that the world is not the way they see it. But this is a learning process in life. The world is very complex and everybody has its own view of things. But its a fact that nobody has the right view of things. Every view is subjective. Some are able to accept that others are not.

The good thing about using this cliche is: People expose themself. They quickly show what kind of conversational partner they present.
And as a consequence you dont have to spent lots of time with them before realizing that this particular person in reality has nothing to say. So you can quickly move on from them and spent precious time with someone who is able to give you something: A good argument, a new view, or just a good conversation. Something that lets you grow as a person.
 
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Tony 15-4 since the beginning of last year, 0-4 since he went down
 

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Finding two of the worst guys calling themselves QB in the NFL to fill in for Romo doesn't make him good. It's like saying Barry Church is good simply because he starts for the Cowboys.
 

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I hope this gives the FO a vision of the future without Romo. The end is going to happen very soon ... probably A LOT faster than Jerry Jones believes.

Now is the time to get his successor on this team.

Could've drafted him last year, but Stephen stopped Unca Jerrah.

:muttley:
 

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Finding two of the worst guys calling themselves QB in the NFL to fill in for Romo doesn't make him good. It's like saying Barry Church is good simply because he starts for the Cowboys.

Hey everyone, PoundTheRock is here.
 

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No, I don't think so. When you're thinking that a Brandon Weeden led team was going to win against a Tom Brady led NE team, the term homer can be used properly.

Maybe some "homers" believed that the rest of the team, the defense, special teams, OL, would step up and carry the team.

Weeden then becomes a game manager and you don't expect him to "win" the game.

In the first half of that game the defense was carrying the team. Sadly the offense had 5 three and outs, a FG, and a kneel down. Had the defense received better support from the offense the game would have been much closer then the final score of 30-6. The homers would not have looked so delusional then.
 

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I've been wanting to make a thread about ROMO finally getting that respect he should have had, think I still might but i've always wanted to pose that question to the Cowboy fans that hate Romo hes terrible you know all that was said I wonder do they feel the same now that Romo is out and see how this team really is without him even with a replacement.... I/ve been saying for yeaarrrsss and getting constantly laughed at but I/ve always sd yes Tony does some what are you thinking moments but waayyy more than not he does succeed and we would b a 3-5 win team without room been saying that for years and now people are seeing QBs as good as room and having to carry this team and we still have a chance every year to compete and win...so I have a lot more to say when it comes to room and I grew up in 90s era in my early 30s and I can say that Tony is my personal favorite QB in Cowboys history I have a lot of respect for troy just me I like Romo as a QB... but anywho... I know he value and a lot of other cowboy fans I speak to does as well... excuse the spelling yes I get lazy at times typing so i'll edit im sure later
 

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Maybe some "homers" believed that the rest of the team, the defense, special teams, OL, would step up and carry the team.

Weeden then becomes a game manager and you don't expect him to "win" the game.

In the first half of that game the defense was carrying the team. Sadly the offense had 5 three and outs, a FG, and a kneel down. Had the defense received better support from the offense the game would have been much closer then the final score of 30-6. The homers would not have looked so delusional then.

You've just made my point for me. Brandon Weeden would have had to actually move the ball consistently enough to put points on the board. Some on here actually believed that he would be able to do that enough to score more than what the Patriots would be able to do. It's one thing to have confidence in the team, but to believe that they were going to win that game with Weeden at the helm was irrational.
 

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It has nothing to do with juveline. The age of a person has nothing to do with the ability to think or act like a rational and well-educated human.
And its never "dead on" and never "true". Because its a cliche and the world is much more complex. And of course its never used with a reason of being "true" or "dead on".

It shows that those people lack a discussion culture.

Those people who use such words/cliches as a "killer-argument" are (in fact) not able to argue in favor of their own opinion and cant accept that others have other view of things.
They are not able to or not willing to accept that the world is not the way they see it. But this is a learning process in life. The world is very complex and everybody has its own view of things. But its a fact that nobody has the right view of things. Every view is subjective. Some are able to accept that others are not.

The good thing about using this cliche is: People expose themself. They quickly show what kind of conversational partner they present.
And as a consequence you dont have to spent lots of time with them before realizing that this particular person in reality has nothing to say. So you can quickly move on from them and spent precious time with someone who is able to give you something: A good argument, a new view, or just a good conversation. Something that lets you grow as a person.

If somebody says things that are blatantly untrue and often even personal (and non-football) in nature toward a certain player....I don't see the word "hater" being out of line. I see this with Romo a lot around here. It is personal and goes way beyond football for a few in this forum.

Therefore, it's almost counter to what you're saying in some cases. Sometimes it's better to dismiss someone who has no capacity for reasonable, critical thought about a player as a "hater" because the reason-loop for that person is either fully closed or non-existent. It's a total waste of time to go down the same, tired, banter.

Yes, it can be descried as lazy...but it certainly doesn't reflect one's capacity to argue a point when the debater is a rational person.
 
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