Michael Irvin wanted no part of Tim Brown coming to Cowboys

[Tenkamenin]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...anted-no-part-of-tim-brown-coming-to-cowboys/

Darn it Mike! What could've been.

Michael Irvin was a great wide receiver, but a terrible recruiter.

Either that, or he didn’t want anyone good challenging his alpha male status in the Cowboys offense of the mid-1990s.

Fellow Hall of Fame wide receiver Tim Brown said Irvin rejected his advances when he was interested in joining the Cowboys as a free agent in 1994. Brown grew up in Dallas and wanted to go home, but Irvin “boisterously declined” at the Pro Bowl.

 

[AsthmaField]

Has Irvin ever done anything not boisterously?

 

[big dog cowboy]

I've never heard that story before. I knew Brown wanted to come and thought it would be a good fit.

What I really want to know is - how much of this is true and what is Irvin's side of the story.

 

[Tenkamenin]

I've never heard that story before. I knew Brown wanted to come and thought it would be a good fit.

What I really want to know is - how much of this is true and what is Irvin's side of the story.

When Tim Brown said that Irvin was going to call Jerry immediately to reject this signing, I knew his side of the story was true.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

No way Brown walked up to Irvin and said I want to be the #2.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Has Irvin ever done anything not boisterously?

"Do you know who I am?"

I bet he wasn't real boisterous with cocaine in the room and two self employed models.

 

[DenCWBY]

I may get crucified for this, but I never thought Tim Brown was all that good. Saw a lot of drops from him late in his career and never seemed to have the onions to consistently go over the middle. Rarely made spectacular catches and seemed to go down easily with one defender tackling him. He came out highly touted but never seemed to be a game changer or the go to guy in the 4th quarter. He was fast and probably has some good stats and he was durable because he stayed in the game a long time but I do not recall Denver (division opponent) or any other teams having to double him up in coverage or highlighting him as the one to stop in order to win.
Hate to be such a downer but just my o

 

[Vtwin]

I always wondered why that never happened in spite of the talk that Brown wanted to play in Dallas. Seemed like a no-brainer at the time.

 

[Vtwin]

"Do you know who I am?"

I bet he wasn't real boisterous with cocaine in the room and two self employed models.

I was going to say plead no contest.

 

[Tenkamenin]

I may get crucified for this, but I never thought Tim Brown was all that good. Saw a lot of drops from him late in his career and never seemed to have the onions to consistently go over the middle. Rarely made spectacular catches and seemed to go down easily with one defender tackling him. He came out highly touted but never seemed to be a game changer or the go to guy in the 4th quarter. He was fast and probably has some good stats and he was durable because he stayed in the game a long time but I do not recall Denver (division opponent) or any other teams having to double him up in coverage or highlighting him as the one to stop in order to win.
Hate to be such a downer but just my o

Regardless, he would've been a better #2 receiver than the other receivers we had until the signing of Rocket Ismail. I think we would've thrown more if we had Tim Brown. Moreover, Brown and Irvin Vs. Davis and Deion in 1994 would've been fun to watch.

 

[risco]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...anted-no-part-of-tim-brown-coming-to-cowboys/

Darn it Mike! What could've been.

Michael Irvin was a great wide receiver, but a terrible recruiter.

Either that, or he didn’t want anyone good challenging his alpha male status in the Cowboys offense of the mid-1990s.

Fellow Hall of Fame wide receiver Tim Brown said Irvin rejected his advances when he was interested in joining the Cowboys as a free agent in 1994. Brown grew up in Dallas and wanted to go home, but Irvin “boisterously declined” at the Pro Bowl.

TBH- given Irvin issues, who is he to reject Tim Brown coming to Dallas... I like Irvin a lot, but I like the team more... I'm a fan of the team first, and players come a distance second.

 

[Plankton]

Tim Brown was also the same person that accused Bill Callahan of throwing the Super Bowl against the Buccaneers, so keep that in mind before jumping to any conclusions. Besides, the Raiders has matching rights with any contract Brown signed, so he likely wouldn't have been in Dallas under any circumstance in 1994.

 

[speedkilz88]

Nothing to see here, in 94 Raiders had right to match and matched Broncos offer anyway. Would never had happened. Cowboys were also coming off SB and had tough enough time keeping there own free agents, lost both Ken Norton and Kevin Gogan.

They did have a chance to sign Brown years later but Jerry traded for Joey Galloway instead.

 

[Tenkamenin]

Tim Brown was also the same person that accused Bill Callahan of throwing the Super Bowl against the Buccaneers, so keep that in mind before jumping to any conclusions. Besides, the Raiders has matching rights with any contract Brown signed, so he likely wouldn't have been in Dallas under any circumstance in 1994.

It wasn't just Tim Brown, Rice also said the samething. Most likely this conspiracy was held by more than just those 2.

 

[scottsp]

If it were true (and it very well might be), I doubt the dynamic would be much different on other clubs where a legitimate All-NFL wideout was so well established. Those guys are such alphas, they're so proud, and extremely protective of their place in the pecking order. I think it's what makes them tick. I am a huge fan of both Tim Brown and Michael Irvin, but there is a good reason why such pairings rarely come to be.

 

[rynochop]

Idk, i have a hard time believing if jerry really wanted him he wouldnt have just because Irvin didnt want him around

 

[DFWJC]

This is true.
Some of you guys seem to think this a Tim Brown perspective story.

This was piggybacked from today's Dallas Morning News and is full of quotes from Irvin.

Irvin said he actually helped Brown because they were a running team and only completing about 20 passes a game.
Between Irvin, Novacek, Harper, and Emmitt, he thought Brown wouldn't get the ball enough.
He said they already had a formula that worked and was Super Bowl winning.

Says he and Brown were great friends then and still are.

Still, you have think it woulda been 4 straight,but who knows for sure.

 

[Tenkamenin]

No way Brown walked up to Irvin and said I want to be the #2.

No question in my mind he said that, Brown knew Irvin was crazy and saying anything else besides playing a subordinate role might get him stabbed.

 

[Tenkamenin]

This is true.
Some of you guys seem to think this a Tim Brown perspective story.

This was piggybacked from today's Dallas Morning News and is full of quotes from Irvin.

Irvin said he actually helped Brown because they were a running team and only completing about 20 passes a game.
Between Irvin, Novacek, Harper, and Emmitt, he thought Brown wouldn't get the ball enough.
He said they already had a formula that worked and was Super Bowl winning.

Says he and Brown were great friends then and still are.

Still, you have think it woulda been 4 straight,but who knows for sure.

I think we would've thrown more, no way you add a receiver like Brown and throw 20x's a game.

Moreover we would've been better in 98, Irvin's consecutive catching streak wouldn't have ended at 117, and we beat the Cards in rd 1.

 

[tyke1doe]

I may get crucified for this, but I never thought Tim Brown was all that good. Saw a lot of drops from him late in his career and never seemed to have the onions to consistently go over the middle. Rarely made spectacular catches and seemed to go down easily with one defender tackling him. He came out highly touted but never seemed to be a game changer or the go to guy in the 4th quarter. He was fast and probably has some good stats and he was durable because he stayed in the game a long time but I do not recall Denver (division opponent) or any other teams having to double him up in coverage or highlighting him as the one to stop in order to win.
Hate to be such a downer but just my o

Truth be told, I wasn't all that impressed with him either.