Might ask for a pay reduction, but wouldn't cut... Roy Williams

[LarryCanadian]

Roy Williams WR

He is a solid 3rd WR option, and we already paid the draft picks and signing bonus. I would keep this guy for at least another year as we have TOO many other holes to fill. He stepped up this season and has made consistent plays.

Marion Barber

He is a good closer! He can block. Run Felix as main back and Tash Choice a bit more, Barber closer.

BUT, can we renegotiate with these guys? Would they accept a salary reduction.

If not, Barber probably should go at end of this season. I would keep Roy Williams one more year at least, he'd take a salary drop.

I just don't think we should mess with the area that seems the most solid - WR when we have other FAR more pressing needs. Kind of a "sunk cost" at this point, and not the time to get cheap about.

Cutting them now doesn't help any new salary cap anymore would it? Wouldn't it actually force more money into new Cap calculation next season?

I also think you need to keep Kosier at least as a backup Centre/Guard unless we get a REALLY solid Free Agent.

Davis might have to go. Columbo, not sure, but would he take a salary cut.

Weird how the oline looked TOTALLY different Sunday? Wow! Don't understand it.

LarryCanadian

 

[texbumthelife]

Roy Williams WR

He is a solid 3rd WR option, and we already paid the draft picks and signing bonus. I would keep this guy for at least another year as we have TOO many other holes to fill. He stepped up this season and has made consistent plays.

The only reason I don't do this is because the amount of a pay cut he would have to take to be a justifiable third receiver expense is more than I would ever be comfortable asking a guy to take.

Marion Barber

He is a good closer! He can block. Run Felix as main back and Tash Choice a bit more, Barber closer.

I have always been a big Barber fan and remain one to this day, but I think it's time to let the kid go. At this point he is a progress stopper. I also think it is very possible we go after Mark Ingram if he is there when we pick. That would spell the end for Barber.

I also think you need to keep Kosier at least as a backup Centre/Guard unless we get a REALLY solid Free Agent.

Davis might have to go. Columbo, not sure, but would he take a salary cut.

Weird how the oline looked TOTALLY different Sunday? Wow! Don't understand it.

Kosier is still good when healthy but he is rarely healthy. I let him play out his contract.

Davis and Columbo are both gone. The rapid descent of their play has been catastrophic to the offensive line this season. I have no doubt neither would be playing any longer if it weren't for injuries to the back-ups.

 

[SDCowboy]

I doubt Roy would accept it nor would he want to continue to be the #3 receiver. He's good enough he can still be a very good #2 on another team. I think he'll welcome being waved.

 

[jobberone]

Why would you spend a number one pick on a RB when you need CB, S, ILB and most importantly OL?

 

[Doomsday101]

I doubt Roy would accept it nor would he want to continue to be the #3 receiver. He's good enough he can still be a very good #2 on another team. I think he'll welcome being waved.

I don't I think Roy is happy in Dallas and has said he wants to retire with the Cowboys. Given the attacks he has had to tolerate with the Cowboys from fans and media alike that he would be talking about moving on yet he continues to maintain his desire to remain in Dallas.

 

[TD-33]

Why would you spend a number one pick on a RB when you need CB, S, ILB and most importantly OL?

you wouldn't. :

 

[Primetime42]

If I'm not mistaken Roy's salary drops a big deal next season.

Can anyone confirm? Adam?

 

[jnday]

I doubt Roy would accept it nor would he want to continue to be the #3 receiver. He's good enough he can still be a very good #2 on another team. I think he'll welcome being waved.

Read an article last week that quoted Roy saying that he loved Dallas and wanted to play out the rest of his career as a Cowboy. If his pay was reduced , he might change his mind. I always thought that Roy would want to move to a team where he wouldn`t get such a hard time from the fans and media , but I guess I was wrong.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I wouldn't mind them some how working the deal out to make it justifable to keep him for the #3 WR. He's worked his butt of this year, played much better, and is a solid teammate for the Cowboys players.

 

[baj1dallas]

I hope he sticks around, I think he's a stand up guy and pretty good overall.

 

[Ren]

Why would you spend a number one pick on a RB when you need CB, S, ILB and most importantly OL?

Why spend one on Dez when we had other needs?

Some guys are just to good to pass up

 

[Randy White]

I don't I think Roy is happy in Dallas and has said he wants to retire with the Cowboys. Given the attacks he has had to tolerate with the Cowboys from fans and media alike that he would be talking about moving on yet he continues to maintain his desire to remain in Dallas.

I'd tell you a place where he'd fit perfectly and still remain relatively close to home:

Houston.

Perfect compliment for Johnson.

 

[texbumthelife]

Why would you spend a number one pick on a RB when you need CB, S, ILB and most importantly OL?

Because there are seven rounds and free agency and I am a proponent of always taking best available.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Why would you spend a number one pick on a RB when you need CB, S, ILB and most importantly OL?

Beats the hell out of me.

I don't get it either.

 

[LarryCanadian]

Yeah, thought Roy loved Dallas and would want to stay at a re-structured deal if necessary.

Wouldn't spend our number 1 pick on a RB. We need to reload trenches and secondary. Oline safety/cb and DE/DT.

That is why keeping Barber at a reduced price as closer and blocking back and backup makes sense to me. I doubt he would take pay cut, think it would be a mistake on his part not to though - as he might be done as a starter/feature back.

Evidence - the dive he made for 1st down market. He hasn't done that in months. He used to score TD's doing that from the friggin 6 yard line. Can't do it any more. Worn down or massive confidence reduction or something. Not a "progress stopper" if the coaches don't allow him to be. Need a tougher coach to say, you are closer role guy now, END of STORY, UNLESS you prove differently or an injury etc. Hence, we want you to take a pay cut.

Not sure any other team will pay him a 3 year deal at even $3 Million a year at this point
LarryCanadian

 

[Doomsday101]

I'd tell you a place where he'd fit perfectly and still remain relatively close to home:

Houston.

Perfect compliment for Johnson.

That is true but as pointed out the price has already been paid getting rid of him at this stage makes no sense. He has stated he likes being in Dallas and normally a guy who has taken the heat is very vocal about getting out and yet RW has not done that. I do agree that his contract could be an obstacle and something that needs to be looked at before he remains

 

[Randy White]

If I'm not mistaken Roy's salary drops a big deal next season.

Can anyone confirm? Adam?

According to rotoworld, his salary next year is going to be $5.1 million dollars.

It's well know that there's a strong probability ( maybe even certainty ) that Leonard Davis ( $6 millions ) and Marion Barber ( $4.24 millions ) will not be back next season. That leaves 4 highly paid offensive starters ( TR, Witten, Austin, and RW ). It's also assumed that Doug Free will be resigned.

The following players are unrestricted FA and most, if not all, will not be back:

Marcus Spears = $1.3 millions (off the books)
Jason Hatcher = $1.8 millions ( off the books )
Stephen Bowen = $1.8 millions ( off the books )
Alex Barron = $2.8 millions ( off the books )
Keith Brooking = $2 millions ( off the books )
Montrae Holland = $1.8 millions ( off the books )
Sam Hurd = $1.8 millions ( off the books )
Gerald Sensabaugh = $1.8 millions ( off the books )
Kyle Kosier = $3 millions ( off the books )

That's 9 players totaling 18 million dollars, 11 players totaling 28 millions if Davis and Barber are counted.

There are also bubble players: Terrence Newman and Roy Williams himself. Cutting them both would add another 13 million dollars ( Williams - 5, Newman - 8 ) making it a grand total of 13 players with 41 million dollars in present and next year's salaries.

The team would have to use some of that money in finding replacements for those players ( especially T-new, Sensabugh, Spears, Kosier and Davis who are starters ) and build back depth, however.

Some of the starters and depth are going to, or can, come from within ( Costa, Young, Brewster, Bright, Choice, Ogletree, Scandrick - who had a solid performance yesterday -, Church, AOA, McCray, Brent, McCann, Lee, Williams [both], Lissemore.. etc )... some will come from the draft, but the most important pieces who will contribute right away will come through free agency, depending who's available.

If it was up to me, and depending on who's available in free agency, I'd start with the high figure. I'd cut, or chose not to resign, the 13 players that would save and/or free up 41 million dollars. I might bring a couple of back ( Bowen, Hurd, Kosier ) but for a reduced priced, say a million each, which is the high end vet minimum and as experienced depth only.

I then go shopping. Free agency: Carl Nicks and Logan Mankins are my top targets. I want them both and do everything within reason to get them. They would be the perfect scenario and the center pieces of the off season. If I only end up with one, I'd be sad, but not disappointed ( I'm greedy, sue me ), because even with one, the restructuring of the roster would be well on the way. After getting one, if not both of those guys, I'd then turn my attention to the CB position. Again, depending on where the pick in the draft is, I'd look for a veteran CB who's not a " great " ( meaning expensive ), but a solid player who doesn't mind being a back up.

Other than Peterson, here's the problem with drafting a CB or even a Safety with that pick: assuming Newman is released, the top guys will be Jenkins ( 4th year ), Scandrick ( 4th year ), McCann ( 2nd year ). There's alot of youth in that group to add yet another young guy who'll likely be a developmental project. If it's Peterson, then all bets are off.

Samething with safeties. Assuming that Sensabaugh is not brought back, it would be Church, AOA, and McCray. There are no Safeties in the draft that one can point at and say " yea, he's sure starter from day 1 ", so, just like CBs, my direction would be towards an experienced, cheap as possible, solid player who'd bring some estability to that group. UNLESS there's a top FA that I simply cannot pass up, but I don't know of any at this moment.

After addressing the interior O-line needs, and restructuring the starting line up ( defense: Start Brent at NG, move Ratt to DE, rotate Lissemore with Olshansky - who, by the way, many people have been ragging on undeservingly so, start Lee plus the young safeties ), I'd then go on to the business of adding depth through the draft and 2nd tier free agents. It would be a less talented roster, but it would be leaner, even younger, and perhaps a hungrier one.

 

[Randy White]

That is true but as pointed out the price has already been paid getting rid of him at this stage makes no sense.

I was all for keeping him as late as yesterday, but studying the roster a bit closer, and looking at possible scenarios, although I wouldn't be mad if he's brought back ( in fact, there's a strong argument to keep him ) there is a reasonable argument to cut him too.

 

[Doomsday101]

I was all for keeping him as late as yesterday, but studying the roster a bit closer, and looking at possible scenarios, although I wouldn't be mad if he's brought back ( in fact, there's a strong argument to keep him ) there is a reasonable argument to cut him too.

I'm sure there are reason for both keeping and releasing him I don't see it being a big help to the offense by only having 2 WR with starting skills.

 

[casmith07]

If we waive Roy Williams, I guarantee he ends up playing for the Skins, especially after that albatross of a deal Snyder just gave McNabb.