Mike & Mike Two-A-Days: Doom and Gloom Crew Rejoice!

skinsscalper

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I've been a "glass is half full" guy since the end of last season, but even I don't envision a scenario where 7-9 looks reasonable. I'm the farthest thing from a homer there is (well maybe not the FARTHEST). I like to look at things realistically and, barring a rash of injuries, I don't see any scenario where this team only ekes out 7 wins. No way.
 

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I expect 11 to 12 wins by the Cowboys and as normal there will be games we win that we should have lost and some games we lose that we should have won. At the end of the season though 11 to 12 wins.
 
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Call it what you want but our recent trend in December had ALOT to do with these predictions. Can't blame them really until we do something about it this is how it's going to be
 

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I'm a card carrying "doom and gloomer" but I think 9-7 is reasonable.

If we had a real head coach, I think we could win 12 games this year. :banghead:
 

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The offense looked better to me in the preseason than I thought it was going to. I don't think any defense with Ware, Ratliff & Newman is going to be in the bottom half of the rankings.

I'm thinking that both the offense and the defense should be in the top 10 in the NFL.

That being said, I think 10-6 is a reasonable guess.
 

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Last week when I was able to take off my goggles I saw a team that looked about 9-7.

But, as the first game gets closer and the goggles have schmelted to my face, I see 11-5 or 12-4. :D
 

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skinsscalper;2927664 said:
7-9 is utterly ridiculous. I don't give a rat's *** what angle you're shooting from.

I've been very guarded this off-season about the Cowboys and the amount of success I think they will enjoy, but that is just asinine. Here's to the Cowboys shocking the world, come February!:beer1:


I'll steal some verbage that I saw on a sign at the Miami vs. Florida St. game last night:

Fear the future. Envy the past. Go Cowboys!
Why is it ridiculous?

Golic's point was reasonable: he picked Dallas to go to the SB last year, and they failed to even make the playoffs, and they keep falling apart in December.
 

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Anyone who respects the opinion of these two morons really has no knowledge of sports.
 

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dmq;2927730 said:
Anyone who respects the opinion of these two morons really has no knowledge of sports.
Somehow I doubt you felt the same a year ago when Golic picked the Cowboys to go to the Super Bowl.
 

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These are just meaningless prediction not facts. Take them with a grain of salt. Yes I would say the same for anyone predicting a SB season.
 

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I'll be happy with this team even if it does go 8-8... If they show some heart, fight every game and they show improvement week to week.... Nothing worse than a team that gives up.. However I predict 10-6..
 

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Double Trouble;2927724 said:
Why is it ridiculous?

Golic's point was reasonable: he picked Dallas to go to the SB last year, and they failed to even make the playoffs, and they keep falling apart in December.

Honestly, looking at our schedule game by game I just don't see 9 losses there. I don't. We will lose one or two we should have won and win one or two we should have lost, but I just don't see 9 losses in that schedule.

A lot of the prognosticators for this next season are bitten by a lover's spurn. The Cowboys were Super Bowl favorites (by many that are predicting their doom) and they didn't even make the playoffs. I get it. What we (or they) didn't foresee was the injuries to the O-line, Pro Bowl QB, 2/3 of the RB stable (the best 2/3, btw, and 1/3 was a Pro Bowler), Pro Bowl CB, and Pro Bowl punter, the revolving door at SS. That's a lot of Pro bowls and trenches guys that were counted on to carry the load. This is where the "experts" will chime in and say that "injuries are a part of the game and Championship teams play through them". I'd like for you to show me the last Championship team that suffered that many injuries to that many core positions that went on to win it all. Injuries happen. They will happen again this year. But, like I said, barring the same type of injury pile-up of a year ago, I just don't see a team that is 7-9 pathetic.
 

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Thanks a lot for the vids, Hypnotoad. I heard them promoting this all weekend but forgot about it... Today still feels like a Monday. :eek::
 

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so let me get this straight....we change ONE starter on offense....and we cannot do but 2 games better than the teams that went 5-11 3 straight years?

and these guys get paid for their opinions?

we were 8-4 last year going into December....despite all of the injuries, despite all of the turmoil....we were 8-4 and owning Pitt with 8 mins to go.....giving THAT game away started our downfall. So an injured, chemistry lacking team that had 8 wins with 4 games to go will only have 7 wins for the ENTIRE year? 8-4 going into December proves that this is NOT a team that lacks talent...rather a team that lost it's way!


I have no problem that if people do not think Dallas is a Super Bowl contender....I have no problem with guys that don't trust Wade....but do we NOT have a top 10 QB? Do we NOT have a top 10 OL.....a top 3 TE....a top 5 RB trio....a top 10 secondary.....a top 10 LB corps. The DL is questionable, but most 3-4 DL are? The WR corps is questioable...but because the OL is good, the QB is good...the RBs are great....the TEs are great..I would say our top 15 WR corps becomes a top 10 passing team.

At some point the stuff becomes comical....let's get ready to rumble.
 

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bbailey423;2927763 said:
I have no problem that if people do not think Dallas is a Super Bowl contender....I have no problem with guys that don't trust Wade....but do we NOT have a top 10 QB? Do we NOT have a top 10 OL.....a top 3 TE....a top 5 RB trio....a top 10 secondary.....a top 10 LB corps. The DL is questionable, but most 3-4 DL are? The WR corps is questioable...but because the OL is good, the QB is good...the RBs are great....the TEs are great..I would say our top 15 WR corps becomes a top 10 passing team.

At some point the stuff becomes comical....let's get ready to rumble.

Exactly. I have no problem with people who don't trust Wade, or don't like our depth, or think we fall apart at the end of the season. But we do still have a potential DPOY in Demarcus Ware on a good defense and a very good QB in Tony Romo. Those two ingredients alone are huge, and that's not even counting young guys like Felix Jones and Marty B that the national media barely recognize.

To put us behind the Giants and Eagles is understandable, since we finished behind them last year. But to say we'll be a bad team? Barring a rash of injuries, I can't see that.
 

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Not sure if this is the place for it, but I'm predicting 11-5 for this team.

Giants and Eagles are getting the preseason love, but I think this team is better.
 

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I like Mike Golic. Whatever you think about him, his opinions are at least from the perspective of a professional athlete.

I also like the fact that Florio calls them Mangirl and the Meathead.
 

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We were 9-7 last year.

That was after a ridiculous rash of injuries.
- We lost our starting QB for several games, and when he came back, he wasn't right because he was throwing with a jacked hand. During that time, we had the worst backup in the league playing for us (a problem that has now been solved).
- We lost our top 2 RBs. Luckily Choice did well, but relying on your 3rd RB down the stretch is rough.
- Witten played injured the last half of the season.
- We lost our starting LG early in the season and had to rely on garbage.
- Hell, we even lost our Pro Bowl punter.
- We had injuries in our secondary
On top of that, we had all the BS lockerroom drama that was messing with the team's heads, pitting players against each other and the coaches.

Now everyone is going to experience some injuries. But we had significant injuries at key positions. And we had all the nonsense in the locker room.

Despite all of that, we went 9-7 in the toughest division in football. And if the Ravens don't break those two runs late in the game, we are 10-6. And if Tony does not get hurt, there's at least 2 games there. But that's not important.

To assume we are going to be worse than we were last year at 9-7, you have to assume that locker room chemistry is not important at all. You also have to assume that we are going to have more injuries at vital positions than we had last year.

I call bull**** on all of that.

This is a playoff team. And it would have been in the playoffs last year but for the all the garbage that is unlikely to repeat itself.
 

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stasheroo;2927650 said:
After listening, it didn't sound like they bashed the Cowboys, they merely put all of their stock in the Cowboys' recent trend of late-season fades - and that's understandable.

And that's what needs to be put in perspective when posters freak out because someone predicts "doom and gloom".

Honestly, 7-9 or 8-8 is not "doom and gloom". "Doom and gloom" is saying Dallas goes 5-11. That's "doom and gloom".

We were a few lucky (or unlucky) bounces from 8-8 or 7-9 last season. Injuries and other issues can easily make what looks like a ten or eleven win team on paper slip to .500 or slightly below.

The reasons cited make all the difference. If it is the "swoon", a degree of difficulty of the late schedule, playing in the toughest division in football--all of those are rational reasons why we could fail to have the type of banner season some people expect.

At this stage, I have given up on even bothering to guess how we will do. I do know that we aren't a 13-3 team unless we get a lot of luck (like playing three backup QBs or something in our schedule like we did in 2007). I know we aren't a 6-10 team unless our depth becomes an issue due to injury. Other that that, all bets are off.
 
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