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[Zaxor]

So your ready to put romo in? THis week? What if he gets no pressure on him sunday and throws three picks because he cant read the defense and we lost 17-6?


Than he would be Bledsoe


IF that were to happen you would be the first guy on here saying we need to put bledsoe in. We can put romo in until we get to the point that we are in dire straights and there is no chance of it turning around.


Why would he do that...knowing that Bledsoe could have and probably would have just as easily thrown those same Ints

To me there is absolutely no way u put romo in now with the giants coming up in two weeks and a team in houston who could possibly get some big plays in the passing game and force us to score points. I want bledsoe in the game, with time he will take houston apart.

so lets lose to the giants with Bledsoe which has a better than a pretty good chance of happening than playing Romo and possibly catching lighting in a bottle

Now if houston blows up our offensive line in the same manner as philly, which wont happen because they do not have the personnel to do it, then the problem will be painfully obvious.

THis game against houston should be a game where they get no pressure and bledsoe has time to make the big play. If we then in turn get a lead we can dominate the game.

The giants game makes me nervous because they can do all the stunting and cause chaos because of the talent up front. Bledsoe has to be given these games.

Again, if romo were to play sunday and throw three picks with no pressure and we lose to houston, then our season is in jeopardy because you cant go back to bledsoe.

yes we can go back to Bledsoe but only if we want to be .500

 

[Bleu Star]

we clearly did not bring as much pressure on him as they did on us.

That's because he has that added dimension that today's QB needs. The ability to escape. How many successful pocket passers do we have in the league right now. Not many. Yet another PP (Kurt Warner) has been replaced.

 

[Zaxor]

really so romo would have done what differently exactly when he hit his third step in a five step drop and he is getting hit from behind because his left takcle is a stiff?

I am curious what would he have done? You mean to tell me romos moxie would have made flozell adams block better....or um at all?

Romo would have blew fire out of his ... and burnt him to a crisp

 

[Yakuza Rich]

The Eagles are often in games where they dont control the clock, doesnt mean anything. Their offense can and does usually strike quickly which is part of the reason they rotate the defensive players so much.

Yeah, but their average time of possession was 28 minutes before this game. They only had 23 minutes time of possession yesterday.

Obviously, you're correct in your point and the big plays given up on defense killed the defense and was a cause for the minimal time of possession the Eagles had.

But, I think they've got a point here. Dallas was controlling the clock, but they made things way too easy for McNabb. Some of that was the defense's fault (Watkins getting fooled on the LJ Smith reception), but it didn't help that the Eagles had great field position due to Bledsoe.

YAKUZA

 

[bysbox1]

Stay with bledsoe now and he should have a big game next week and then playing at home against the giants should have the opportunity to play well.

If you go to romo and lose against houston and then the giants you are 2-4 with three straight road games?

So you have to ask yourself, do you want to be 3-6 going into november with a quarterback who is struggling or do you want to beat houston next week, have a chance against ny and then get into position to make something happen with 5 of 7 at home down the stretch.

I don't think we will have a winning record after the next 6 games.

We should beat the Texans. But The Giants have the ability to win on the road, and proved that by beating the Eagles in their house. Plus this will have a big game atmosphere, and we all know how Bledose performs in big games.

I think we will lose the Carolina and Washington games. The Philly game gives them a blueprint on how to defend us, and you have two tough defenses in a row. And the Cardinals are not as bad as we think and that's an away game. And Indy is going to school us.

We could easily be 3-7 or 4-6 after that stretch with Indy up next. At best, I think we could be 5-5 if we beat the Giants.

If we don't make the change now, we will be in trouble.

 

[theebs]

Yeah, but their average time of possession was 28 minutes before this game. They only had 23 minutes time of possession yesterday.

Obviously, you're correct in your point and the big plays given up on defense killed the defense and was a cause for the minimal time of possession the Eagles had.

But, I think they've got a point here. Dallas was controlling the clock, but they made things way too easy for McNabb. Some of that was the defense's fault (Watkins getting fooled on the LJ Smith reception), but it didn't help that the Eagles had great field position due to Bledsoe.

YAKUZA

NOt sure about the watkins getting fooled comment. It was a blitz and ellis missed him, the ball should have been thrown on the stop by baskett but mcnabb dodged ellis and watkins was left in no mans land. Had ellis got his hand on mcnabb, the ball would have come out and watkins would have been in position. He looked foolish because mcnabb stepped up into the pocket, made another great play and watkins was roasted, the play was on ellis though.

 

[odog422]

I am not settling for anything, I am not happy our qb is getting killed and then in turn making bad plays. I am not happy with that either, but I think we have no recourse right now.

I will say it again. If romo plays next week and throws three bad picks and we lose to houston 17-6, then what? You cant go back to bledsoe for sure and you then are 2-3 with the giants at home....lose that game and the season maybe over.

Stay with bledsoe now and he should have a big game next week and then playing at home against the giants should have the opportunity to play well.

If you go to romo and lose against houston and then the giants you are 2-4 with three straight road games?

So you have to ask yourself, do you want to be 3-6 going into november with a quarterback who is struggling or do you want to beat houston next week, have a chance against ny and then get into position to make something happen with 5 of 7 at home down the stretch.

Again, blame adams, roy williams and pat watkins before you blame bledsoe, and you can blame owens also, he stunk the whole game and now he is whining on the sidelines...

WHAT IF? you cant guarantee me bledsoe will be stellar the next game against houston anymore than you can guarantee that romo will suck.

again, i KNOW that bledsoe may play well against houston and/or the giants at home. but i also KNOW that in the playoffs, if we make it, the pretenders will be far and few in btw and EVERYONE will gameplan us with one thing in mind - pressure bledsoe bc he will crumble. i know this.

i DONT KNOW if romo will. and im about progress, not the status quo.

 

[theebs]

WHAT IF? you cant guarantee me bledsoe will be stellar the next game against houston anymore than you can guarantee that romo will suck.

again, i KNOW that bledsoe may play well against houston and/or the giants at home. but i also KNOW that in the playoffs, if we make it, the pretenders will be far and few in btw and EVERYONE will gameplan us with one thing in mind - pressure bledsoe bc he will crumble. i know this.

i DONT KNOW if romo will. and im about progress, not the status quo.

I hear ya man.. Simply look at what I said though and understand a change at qb after the 4th game is a desperate act. I dont believe we are a desperate team, or anywhere near that. I believe we lost to a good team in a tough situation and there is plenty of blame going around and well deserved.

you cant blame bledsoe for being Drew Bledsoe. this is exactly like december in 03, I remember it like it was yesterday we lost to new orleans and brad sham and babe laufenberg said during the broadcast you cant blame quincy carter and troy hambrick for being quincy carter and troy hambrick. I believe this applies here.

I am not saying romo could not play well, I am not saying we would lose for sure. One thing I do know is that bledsoe has had good games after bad ones since coming here and he should have a good game against houston. Then we have a big divisional game with ny.

Now if he loses those two games and plays bad, romo needs to play the next three, but only if he throws interceptions without pressure and holds the ball too long.

Because of the talent on this team, the upcoming schedule and the 5 of the last 7 at home I believe there is no chance and no reason to bench bledsoe.

If bledsoe hit witten for that touchdown yesterday this board would be talking about what a warrior and how resilient he is after taking a beating like that and then still coming back. People are just mad and need to be rational, there were more bad plays from roy williams, flozell adams and pat watkins as there were from bledsoe.

 

[Bleu Star]

If bledsoe hit witten for that touchdown yesterday this board would be talking about what a warrior and how resilient he is after taking a beating like that and then still coming back.

That is as big an IF as "If Romo starts vs the Texans we lose and the season is in the toilet".

 

[Crown Royal]

If bledsoe hit witten for that touchdown yesterday this board would be talking about what a warrior and how resilient he is after taking a beating like that and then still coming back. People are just mad and need to be rational, there were more bad plays from roy williams, flozell adams and pat watkins as there were from bledsoe.

No - I have been finished with Bledsoe since Jax. I always had a feeling that what the anti-Bledsoe crew said might be true, but I didn't believe it till then. Ever since then I am finished with Bledsoe. I know what we have in him and it isn't enough.

 

[Doomsday101]

That's because he has that added dimension that today's QB needs. The ability to escape. How many successful pocket passers do we have in the league right now. Not many. Yet another PP (Kurt Warner) has been replaced.

McNabb was not having to escape much at all and don't give me that todays QB that is such a load of media BS the NFL has seen it share of both and there are as many pocket QB's who have succeeded as there are mobile QB's. No doubt Drew made mistake yesterday and Dallas could have helped him out by doing a better job of protecting up the middle on the blitz but we didn't we could have rolled the pocket out a lot more but we didn't. There were a lot of things that we could have done and a lot of mistakes by many

 

[odog422]

I hear ya man.. Simply look at what I said though and understand a change at qb after the 4th game is a desperate act. I dont believe we are a desperate team, or anywhere near that. I believe we lost to a good team in a tough situation and there is plenty of blame going around and well deserved.

you cant blame bledsoe for being Drew Bledsoe. this is exactly like december in 03, I remember it like it was yesterday we lost to new orleans and brad sham and babe laufenberg said during the broadcast you cant blame quincy carter and troy hambrick for being quincy carter and troy hambrick. I believe this applies here.

I am not saying romo could not play well, I am not saying we would lose for sure. One thing I do know is that bledsoe has had good games after bad ones since coming here and he should have a good game against houston. Then we have a big divisional game with ny.

Now if he loses those two games and plays bad, romo needs to play the next three, but only if he throws interceptions without pressure and holds the ball too long.

Because of the talent on this team, the upcoming schedule and the 5 of the last 7 at home I believe there is no chance and no reason to bench bledsoe.

If bledsoe hit witten for that touchdown yesterday this board would be talking about what a warrior and how resilient he is after taking a beating like that and then still coming back. People are just mad and need to be rational, there were more bad plays from roy williams, flozell adams and pat watkins as there were from bledsoe.

yes its the 4th game of the season, but this type of play, this bledsoe being bledsoe, goes back to the end of last year. no improvement.

bad, bad game, then a good game. bad, bad game, then a good game.

im not panicking. i know there is plenty of blame to go around. but i also know a lot of guys on this team are young (watkins) other guys are returning from season-ending surgery (flozell) and one guy had a bad play (williams). they all have the chance to improve or get healthy - bledsoe is at his ceiling. this is what you get.

i also know that id rather romo cut his teeth against houston and then in a home game rather than on the road against a quality opponent.

plain and simple, I SEE NO REASON not to switch. worst case, romo sucks. its not like were going anywhere with bledsoe - as you say, bledsoe is bledsoe.

 

[Pine Needle]

Right now we have the 27th rated QB in the NFL.

For some reason I can't imagine Romo being much worse than that.

Yeah. No caca. Start Romo and gat back to playing football. We WILL winn with Romo. We WILL make the playoffs with Romo. After that, we might look at signing a coach who knows from one month to the next if he will choose to be around next year.

 

[silver]

the last time BP made a change at starting QB Vinny took over for Glenn Foley and led the '98 Jets to the playoffs.

 

[theebs]

Yeah. No caca. Start Romo and gat back to playing football. We WILL winn with Romo. We WILL make the playoffs with Romo. After that, we might look at signing a coach who knows from one month to the next if he will choose to be around next year.

Ding ding ding....

We have our first Fire bill parcells and he is to blame comment.

What took you so long.

 

[YosemiteSam]

As I said in the other threads. I suspect Romo plays Sunday, but Bledsoe will still start.

 

[Bleu Star]

we could have rolled the pocket out a lot more but we didn't. There were a lot of things that we could have done and a lot of mistakes by many

You can't roll a pocket for a QB that can't roll with it.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

You can't roll a pocket for a QB that can't roll with it.

Touche.


But Bledsoe gives us the best chance to win.

 

[Doomsday101]

You can't roll a pocket for a QB that can't roll with it.

Dallas rolled it out aginst Washington, it is comments like this that really makes me wounder about some fans. Bledsoe can move or did you miss the TD run that he had or the big 1st down he picked up on the run. This ideal that Drew can't move at all is BS but I guess if you say it enough times it must be true.

 

[Frosty]

I hear ya man.. Simply look at what I said though and understand a change at qb after the 4th game is a desperate act. I dont believe we are a desperate team, or anywhere near that. I believe we lost to a good team in a tough situation and there is plenty of blame going around and well deserved.

you cant blame bledsoe for being Drew Bledsoe. this is exactly like december in 03, I remember it like it was yesterday we lost to new orleans and brad sham and babe laufenberg said during the broadcast you cant blame quincy carter and troy hambrick for being quincy carter and troy hambrick. I believe this applies here.

I am not saying romo could not play well, I am not saying we would lose for sure. One thing I do know is that bledsoe has had good games after bad ones since coming here and he should have a good game against houston. Then we have a big divisional game with ny.

Now if he loses those two games and plays bad, romo needs to play the next three, but only if he throws interceptions without pressure and holds the ball too long.

Because of the talent on this team, the upcoming schedule and the 5 of the last 7 at home I believe there is no chance and no reason to bench bledsoe.

If bledsoe hit witten for that touchdown yesterday this board would be talking about what a warrior and how resilient he is after taking a beating like that and then still coming back. People are just mad and need to be rational, there were more bad plays from roy williams, flozell adams and pat watkins as there were from bledsoe.

bledsoe hit witten for that touchdown yesterday this board would be talking about what a warrior


Did you not watch the Seatle game last year, . When Bledsoe plays against a descent team he looks like Ryan leaf/Jeff Goerge. Heck look at him when he played Tenn last week, He was still throwing off his back foot and throwing lobs and just did not look like a real QB. throwing, moving making reeds quick crisp throws. Not lobs that hit the ground before the reciever

The guy is showing his age and acting his age