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Hussein;1079875 said:
Sorry, still don't trust Romo. Same was said about DB after Jax game. We gave them the game and still had a chance. I don't wanna go thru the growing pais of a first yr QB--not this year.

So you'd rather swim in the river of mediocrity for ANOTHER season with the talent that's on this team?
 

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I'm not a big believer in Romo, but Leinart had a nice game yesterday as a rookie. If Romo isn't ready after 4 years, he may never be ready.
 

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justbob;1079868 said:
Why is it to early to make a change?? ---two tough teams with decent Defenses
and the result was the same ---In truth I believe we have a huge amount of talent on this team --but not enough support staff(yes Coaches) to get the job done---that includes Bledsoe ---By changing QB's we run the chance of
mistakes like interceptions until he matures --so what is different---since we lost to the eagles --that makes us part of the "easy scedule"

So your ready to put romo in? THis week? What if he gets no pressure on him sunday and throws three picks because he cant read the defense and we lost 17-6?

IF that were to happen you would be the first guy on here saying we need to put bledsoe in. We can put romo in until we get to the point that we are in dire straights and there is no chance of it turning around.

To me there is absolutely no way u put romo in now with the giants coming up in two weeks and a team in houston who could possibly get some big plays in the passing game and force us to score points. I want bledsoe in the game, with time he will take houston apart.

Now if houston blows up our offensive line in the same manner as philly, which wont happen because they do not have the personnel to do it, then the problem will be painfully obvious.

THis game against houston should be a game where they get no pressure and bledsoe has time to make the big play. If we then in turn get a lead we can dominate the game.

The giants game makes me nervous because they can do all the stunting and cause chaos because of the talent up front. Bledsoe has to be given these games.

Again, if romo were to play sunday and throw three picks with no pressure and we lose to houston, then our season is in jeopardy because you cant go back to bledsoe.
 

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Hussein;1079875 said:
Sorry, still don't trust Romo. Same was said about DB after Jax game. We gave them the game and still had a chance. I don't wanna go thru the growing pais of a first yr QB--not this year.

you mean like locking onto one receiver (TG) and forcing every throw to him at the expense of your other four options?

or maybe you mean like holding onto to the ball at the end of the game with less than a minute left and you ABSOLUTELY cannot take a sack?

sorry. after jax, i said "aberration" giving bledsoe the benefit of the doubt. two out of four games, add pressure and a meltdown ensues? make the change.

my point being, bledsoe has not demonstrated any sort of veteran intangibles that justify leaving him in there.
 

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theebs;1079924 said:
So your ready to put romo in? THis week? What if he gets no pressure on him sunday and throws three picks because he cant read the defense and we lost 17-6?

IF that were to happen you would be the first guy on here saying we need to put bledsoe in. We can put romo in until we get to the point that we are in dire straights and there is no chance of it turning around.

To me there is absolutely no way u put romo in now with the giants coming up in two weeks and a team in houston who could possibly get some big plays in the passing game and force us to score points. I want bledsoe in the game, with time he will take houston apart.

Now if houston blows up our offensive line in the same manner as philly, which wont happen because they do not have the personnel to do it, then the problem will be painfully obvious.

THis game against houston should be a game where they get no pressure and bledsoe has time to make the big play. If we then in turn get a lead we can dominate the game.

The giants game makes me nervous because they can do all the stunting and cause chaos because of the talent up front. Bledsoe has to be given these games.

Again, if romo were to play sunday and throw three picks with no pressure and we lose to houston, then our season is in jeopardy because you cant go back to bledsoe.

basically, it sounds to me like you want me to "settle" for what we have in bledsoe - a good qb with no pressure, but add pressure then all bets are off.

i submit that if i have other options that may be better, why should i?
 

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theebs;1079924 said:
Again, if romo were to play sunday and throw three picks with no pressure and we lose to houston, then our season is in jeopardy because you cant go back to bledsoe.

It really sounds like you're happy with the status quo. I'm not. People keep bringing up the "what ifs" where it pertains to Romo but I will take a "what if" over a "already know" anyday.

Let me again point to the growing list of first year starters that had very good games yesterday.

Rivers
Leinert
Gradkowski (please look this guy up)
Grossman
 

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odog422;1079938 said:
basically, it sounds to me like you want me to "settle" for what we have in bledsoe - a good qb with no pressure, but add pressure then all bets are off.

i submit that if i have other options that may be better, why should i?

:hammer:

Plus, this is not the first time Bledsoe has done this. He played the same way in NE and Buffalo.
 

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odog422;1079938 said:
basically, it sounds to me like you want me to "settle" for what we have in bledsoe - a good qb with no pressure, but add pressure then all bets are off.

i submit that if i have other options that may be better, why should i?

I am not settling for anything, I am not happy our qb is getting killed and then in turn making bad plays. I am not happy with that either, but I think we have no recourse right now.

I will say it again. If romo plays next week and throws three bad picks and we lose to houston 17-6, then what? You cant go back to bledsoe for sure and you then are 2-3 with the giants at home....lose that game and the season maybe over.

Stay with bledsoe now and he should have a big game next week and then playing at home against the giants should have the opportunity to play well.

If you go to romo and lose against houston and then the giants you are 2-4 with three straight road games?

So you have to ask yourself, do you want to be 3-6 going into november with a quarterback who is struggling or do you want to beat houston next week, have a chance against ny and then get into position to make something happen with 5 of 7 at home down the stretch.

Again, blame adams, roy williams and pat watkins before you blame bledsoe, and you can blame owens also, he stunk the whole game and now he is whining on the sidelines...
 

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Bleu Star;1079958 said:
It really sounds like you're happy with the status quo. I'm not. People keep bringing up the "what ifs" where it pertains to Romo but I will take a "what if" over a "already know" anyday.

Let me again point to the growing list of first year starters that had very good games yesterday.

Rivers
Leinert
Gradkowski (please look this guy up)
Grossman


Read my other posts, I am tired of this already. I dont need to look up those guys I know who they are, thanks though.

Now you need to re-ask this same question to yourself but with this twist. How would Rivers, leinart, gradowski or grossman played behind our offensive line yesterday in a playoff atmosphere in Philadelphia? Thats the real question....behind this line, particularly flozell adams, who would have played well?
 

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theebs;1079978 said:
Again, blame adams, roy williams and pat watkins before you blame bledsoe, and you can blame owens also, he stunk the whole game and now he is whining on the sidelines...

It's amazing how differently we see things. There's plenty of blame to go around but anyone can see a 223yd, 3INT game is a place for just a hint of blame.
 

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This is killing me.....people seem to be complacent with mediocrity.
We CANNOT win big games on the road with Drew as the QB anymore......so what the heck is the point?
We are talking about a 35 year-old QB with a 63.6 passer rating people......63.6!!!! That is third last among all starting QB's.....just ahead of the soon-to-be-benched Jake Plummer and very raw rookie Vince Young.
The Boys are not winning a Super Bowl with Drew at the helm, it's very clear now. Next week is the ideal time to bring Romo in to start.....it needs to happen sooner rather than later.
 

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theebs;1079987 said:
Read my other posts, I am tired of this already. I dont need to look up those guys I know who they are, thanks though.

Now you need to re-ask this same question to yourself but with this twist. How would Rivers, leinart, gradowski or grossman played behind our offensive line yesterday in a playoff atmosphere in Philadelphia? Thats the real question....behind this line, particularly flozell adams, who would have played well?

With Moxie, my dear theebs, with plenty 'o MOXIE!
 

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theebs;1079987 said:
Read my other posts, I am tired of this already. I dont need to look up those guys I know who they are, thanks though.

Now you need to re-ask this same question to yourself but with this twist. How would Rivers, leinart, gradowski or grossman played behind our offensive line yesterday in a playoff atmosphere in Philadelphia? Thats the real question....behind this line, particularly flozell adams, who would have played well?

I've played left tackle and I can tell you, without a blink, that the QB sets the tone in the huddle and at the line. Players don't purposely play differently for different quarterbacks. However, when a qb step in the huddle with an air of confidence surrounding him that confidence is contagious.
 

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Bleu Star;1079992 said:
It's amazing how differently we see things. There's plenty of blame to go around but anyone can see a 223yd, 3INT game is a place for just a hint of blame.

Sure it is, Bledsoe is not walking away from blame and as a fan I'm not excusing him of any blame he clearly made some mistakes that hurt us. He also made some plays that helped us in the game. Placing some blame on players and wanting them benched is a bit different.
 

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Doomsday101;1080014 said:
Sure it is, Bledsoe is not walking away from blame and as a fan I'm not excusing him of any blame he clearly made some mistakes that hurt us. He also made some plays that helped us in the game. Placing some blame on players and wanting them benched is a bit different.

You know what? I would feel a lot better blaming a rookie FS for this loss, than a 14 year veteran who makes the same boneheaded mistakes when the pressure is on, but I just can't make myself do that.
 

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Bleu Star;1080005 said:
I've played left tackle and I can tell you, without a blink, that the QB sets the tone in the huddle and at the line. Players don't purposely play differently for different quarterbacks. However, when a qb step in the huddle with an air of confidence surrounding him that confidence is contagious.


So flozell adams whiffing on running plays and letting trent cole run free on bledsoe's blind side is bledsoes fault?

I dont get it?
 

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BulletBob;1080000 said:
With Moxie, my dear theebs, with plenty 'o MOXIE!

really so romo would have done what differently exactly when he hit his third step in a five step drop and he is getting hit from behind because his left takcle is a stiff?

I am curious what would he have done? You mean to tell me romos moxie would have made flozell adams block better....or um at all?
 

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theebs;1080025 said:
So flozell adams whiffing on running plays and letting trent cole run free on bledsoe's blind side is bledsoes fault?

I dont get it?

Flozell had a bad game. Sure. I'll give you that. On the flip side, Bledslug did nothing to buy time in the pocket and perhaps burn an aggressive D that was blitzing him as if he were the statuesque Thinker.

thinker.jpg
 

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SultanOfSix;1080024 said:
You know what? I would feel a lot better blaming a rookie FS for this loss, than a 14 year veteran who makes the same boneheaded mistakes when the pressure is on, but I just can't make myself do that.

I don't feel better that both made mistakes or some vet offensive lineman could not keep a defender from coming on their insides for easier play on the QB. If a defense can put pressure in the face of a QB you will force him to make mistakes be it Troy Aikman or any other QB that is why we try to put pressure on QB's and why every team trys to get pressure on the opposing QB is to force mistakes. When Dallas got pressure on McNabb he made mistakes as well but we clearly did not bring as much pressure on him as they did on us.
 

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theebs;1080037 said:
really so romo would have done what differently exactly when he hit his third step in a five step drop and he is getting hit from behind because his left takcle is a stiff?

I am curious what would he have done? You mean to tell me romos moxie would have made flozell adams block better....or um at all?

It was a joke - lighten up, Francis.
 
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