Mike Florio tough on Cowboys

[Valkyr]

And I somehow missed that Jerral has a Netflix series. I don't know who is watching that drooling, mushmouthed, drunken, philandering fool wallow in his narcissism, but to each their own.

 

[dupree89]

And I somehow missed that Jerral has a Netflix series. I don't know who is watching that drooling, mushmouthed, drunken, philandering fool wallow in his narcissism, but to each their own.

whenever someone calls him Jerral-- well, I laugh every single time.

 

[jazzcat22]

Saying Jerry is a football man because he played college football and has been around it all his life is like having a 1924 Model T in my driveway and saying “I have a great classic car in my driveway.” Which doesn’t make it a great car to drive NOW.

I’ve known lots of people who have a law degree and spent decades in courtrooms. Doesn’t mean they are a great lawyer. Experience in and of itself does not guarantee greatness.

Jerry is a great businessman who BOUGHT an NFL team. His great skill is business and sales, not football. His purchase of the team guaranteed he and his kids are “football people”. There is not another team in the NFL that would hire Jerry or Stephen as their GM.

As I said, I made my comment and stick by it.
He can know football but just has not made it work to build a team post Jimmy. Not a SB caliber team anyway. And yes they had some very good teams. It just didn’t work out well.

Many teams are and we’re in the same position. They build teams but can’t get to the SB either.

 

[atlantacowboy]

He has been around football his entire life, and has played for a championship college team. He has owned the Cowboys since 1989. Won 3 SB's inspire of the haters saying it was all Jimmy.
It is safe to say he knows football.

He does actually know much more about football than most on here posting how much they think they know.
No he is not a football genius, but he knows more than most on here.
I am not by any means defending him. Just using common sense and logic. This FO has failed us as fans the past 20 years.
Not 30 years. Did anyone truly think the team was not going to have down years after the triplets were gone. Did anyone expect deep playoff runs from say 2000 to 2006.

Fans are blinded by their hate and / or their homerism. And it shows.

It took the Hunts 50 years to get back to a SB. Apparently they knew nothing about football either. Where is the outrage there, just swept under the rug, since it does not fit a fans narrative. Until a guy named Mahomes came along they sucked at ownership from what fans are applying to Jerry.
Jerry has 20 more years to find his Mahomes if you compare it that way.

This notion that Jerry played a major role in Jimmy's construction of those Super Bowl teams is hilarious. So, he played for Arkansas in the 1960's. So what? He shows up in Dallas in 1989 and knows what exactly about NFL football? Nothing. He was a fan and was less familiar with the cowboy roster than many of us. He hired Jimmy and gave him CONTROL OF FOOTBALL OPERATIONS. He had to bc he didn't know anything. This is not in dispute. It's a fact. Jimmy made every football decision in Dallas from the time he arrived until the time he left. Sure, Jerry pitched in selling the Walker trade to hershel with a fat bonus check. Well, congrats to Jerry. The man is a football moron. No GM in NFL history has even been given half the opportunity to fail this spectacularly over a 30 year period. He is literally celebrated from coast to coast as the biggest idiot in the NFL.

 

[boysfanindc]

It is all just really sad.

 

[Paperbag]

Jerry's best decision was hiring Jimmy
Jerry's worst decision was letting Jimmy walk due to his inability to be hands off.

2nd worst was hiring his son

 

[boysfanindc]

Florio may be a media *****, but does not make him wrong about what he said.

 

[Coogiguy03]

congrats pal

I think The Coog won this prestigious award last year

Uhhh why thanks!!!! Lol my best friend on here is probably jealous lol

 

[Coogiguy03]

whenever someone calls him Jerral-- well, I laugh every single time.

Jethro usually gets me

 

[Robbieac]

This notion that Jerry played a major role in Jimmy's construction of those Super Bowl teams is hilarious. So, he played for Arkansas in the 1960's. So what? He shows up in Dallas in 1989 and knows what exactly about NFL football? Nothing. He was a fan and was less familiar with the cowboy roster than many of us. He hired Jimmy and gave him CONTROL OF FOOTBALL OPERATIONS. He had to bc he didn't know anything. This is not in dispute. It's a fact. Jimmy made every football decision in Dallas from the time he arrived until the time he left. Sure, Jerry pitched in selling the Walker trade to hershel with a fat bonus check. Well, congrats to Jerry. The man is a football moron. No GM in NFL history has even been given half the opportunity to fail this spectacularly over a 30 year period. He is literally celebrated from coast to coast as the biggest idiot in the NFL.

 

[Bobhaze]

As I said, I made my comment and stick by it.
He can know football but just has not made it work to build a team post Jimmy. Not a SB caliber team anyway. And yes they had some very good teams. It just didn’t work out well.

Many teams are and we’re in the same position. They build teams but can’t get to the SB either.

I understand brother. But all those teams haven’t had the same GM for 30 years without much playoff results. Even bad teams like Cle, Mia, etc have tried different GMs when they don’t succeed.

We are the only team in the NFL that keeps the same GM after all these years of playoff drought. If the same GM can’t get you to win even a divisional playoff game in three decades, it’s time for someone else to try. But that can’t happen here.

That’s what’s frustrating. It’s not just the drought. It’s the wash, rinse and repeat with the same people.

 

[dupree89]

I understand brother. But all those teams haven’t had the same GM for 30 years without much playoff results. Even bad teams like Cle, Mia, etc have tried different GMs when they don’t succeed.

We are the only team in the NFL that keeps the same GM after all these years of playoff drought. If the same GM can’t get you to win even a divisional playoff game in three decades, it’s time for someone else to try. But that can’t happen here.

That’s what’s frustrating. It’s not just the drought. It’s the wash, rinse and repeat with the same people.

its not a drought. It's a "drought".

 

[Captain43Crash]

Jerry cannot win a title without the a Jimmy built team.

Not a fan of Jerry’s, but he did hire Jimmy!

As bad as Jerry is as an owner, he has won more Superbowls, since he has owned Dallas, than 90% of NFL owners.

 

[jazzcat22]

I understand brother. But all those teams haven’t had the same GM for 30 years without much playoff results. Even bad teams like Cle, Mia, etc have tried different GMs when they don’t succeed.

We are the only team in the NFL that keeps the same GM after all these years of playoff drought. If the same GM can’t get you to win even a divisional playoff game in three decades, it’s time for someone else to try. But that can’t happen here.

That’s what’s frustrating. It’s not just the drought. It’s the wash, rinse and repeat with the same people.

KC had the same owner / family for 50 years and had multiple GM”s.
Why don’t they get the same scrutiny?

Same HC for a long time. Until they got a QB. As I said Jerry has 20 more years to find his Mahomes.

 

[Bobhaze]

KC had the same owner / family for 50 years and had multiple GM”s.
Why don’t they get the same scrutiny?

Same HC for a long time. Until they got a QB. As I said Jerry has 20 more years to find his Mahomes.

We are nothing like KC who has had the same ownership family (the Hunts) for 60+ years. A family that hires a GM and holds him accountable for results The Hunt family delegates authority appropriately and let’s those people run football operations. We have an owner who hires himself and his kids with zero accountability.

The chiefs have one of the best GMs in sports in Brett Veach who worked really hard to scout Mahomes and move up in the 2017 draft to get him. And even more importantly, Veach understands the importance of building a great defense around his great QB. And uses trades, FA and smart cap management to support their generational talent at QB.

Like I said, the Hunt family is nothing like our ownership family.

And how can Jerry ever find the next Mahomes type QB if he never drafts one?

 

[GMO415]

Mike isnt a fan of Mr Jerry Jones

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profo...s-was-working-on-its-been-crickets-ever-since

Jerry is nothing but a hope peddler. Some of you are hooked. Its been over 54 years for me, and I realized long ago the Jones's are not capable of bringing another SB to this team. It was always Jimmy Johnson and after 30 years, its obvious.

 

[TwentyOne]

No he does not.

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[TwentyOne]

Couple things - and again, i am not a Jerry Jones fan or defender but if were talking about an accomplished human being the accolades are numerous for him

Building the brand of the cowboys to what it is now from where it was in the late 1980s is incredible. Yes it was a good brand in the 70s but by the time he took over and what it is now are two very different brands. From a marketing POV he has accomplished something very special in terms of building the strongest sports brand in the world

Go and do some research on his philtantophic activities - they have donated billions of dollars to numerous philanthropies and continue to do so - sure its easy to donate when you are worth billions but he and his wife continue to be philanthropically focused as well.

And the money thing - building the type of generational wealth that he has is a massive accomplishment - it has changed the Jones familly and every member that will be born for 100's of years. I wish i could do that for my family and bet you do too.


I am going to surmise that nothing i could write here is going to make you think of him as accomplished so its not even worth debating honestly. I wish he would fade away and hire a GM and let this team succeed as much as the next fan but i still recognize he is very successful and accomplished.

You wrote up some good stuff and i was very open to listen to you. You seemed a good person for conversation.

Unless your last paragraph. Where you were able - in one sentence - to completely reverse the good image you just had built . It seems you are a very prejudiced person. Thats sad because it seems you are one of only few here at this forum who are able to rationalize and make good posts that are worth to put some thought in.

 

[fivetwos]

Many of you folks should consider adjusting your posts.

You speak of “championships” and ‘Super Bowl”

How about a lousy DIVISIONAL playoff win, which they can’t even pull off??

 

[Jipper]

You wrote up some good stuff and i was very open to listen to you. You seemed a good person for conversation.

Unless your last paragraph. Where you were able - in one sentence - to completely reverse the good image you just had built . It seems you are a very prejudiced person. Thats sad because it seems you are one of only few here at this forum who are able to rationalize and make good posts that are worth to put some thought in.

Well im sorry you took it that way. On the contrary I am a very open person and not prejudiced to others as you state, i just have been attacked for having a positive view of some of jerrys accomplishments and have realized that there is nothing I can say here for many that they will agree to. Its self realization of the lack of many being able to have a rationale or pragmatic view.

So many here can't bifricate the owner jerry from the gm Jerry and it makes it tough when you respect one but detest the other if that makes any sense.

Who knows dude and for the record I enjoy your posts and discussions as well- all the best