Mike Martz: Deep Dive Analysis of Dak's Ints This Year

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TheMarathonContinues

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Can;t for the life of me figure out why ...some people...continue to use the 2022 Bucs as a benchmark.

"But...Brady". "But SUPER BOWL TEAM".
That team was in no way shape or form the same team. Their record shows it. If you need me to explain it to you...you shouldn't be using them in the first place. Just an easy lazy, very lazy...way to get Dak propped up.
God forbid anyone props up Dak….OMG THE HORROR!!

Anyway…..I asked that poster a question about the Buccs game. He answered respectfully a few days ago. Solid engagement amongst two posters. Never said it was the benchmark.
 

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Did Dak play good in the TB playoff game? Again its not diferent than giving him credit for playing bad in the SF game. Take Daks name out of it and I feel the same way about any QB, there are good QB's who had bad games against TB last year but if we are talking about Dak's playoff games then you dont just throw out the ones that dont help an argument you use them all or it looks like a rigged argument.
Only the bad ones matter according to these guys. At the end of the day we need better against a team like the 49ers. I don’t know what he’s taking about some benchmark. At the end of the day I’m not just gonna sit here and only acknowledge his bad games….
 

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God forbid anyone props up Dak….OMG THE HORROR!!

Anyway…..I asked that poster a question about the Buccs game. He answered respectfully a few days ago. Solid engagement amongst two posters. Never said it was the benchmark.
YEs...by all means PROP HIM UP! I never said you couldn't...so just cut that.

But you and others KEEP going to 2022 Tampa over and over again...almost exclusively. That...was a bad team. Mkay?

Brady retired, unretired divorced. That isn't vintage GOAT brady. Mastermind Bruce Ariens gone. Some critical injuries especially on the o line. Only the 4th team in NFL history to make the playoff team with...

a losing record.

We beat losers.

And you use that to "prop up dak"?

My opinion it's the opposite effect of what you intend.

And that's all it is...opinion. Carry on.
 

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YEs...by all means PROP HIM UP! I never said you couldn't...so just cut that.

But you and others KEEP going to 2022 Tampa over and over again...almost exclusively. That...was a bad team. Mkay?

Brady retired, unretired divorced. That isn't vintage GOAT brady. Mastermind Bruce Ariens gone. Some critical injuries especially on the o line. Only the 4th team in NFL history to make the playoff team with...

a losing record.

We beat losers.

And you use that to "prop up dak"?

My opinion it's the opposite effect of what you intend.

And that's all it is...opinion. Carry on.
So IF the Cowboys Lost to the Tampa???:huh: :lmao: Dak Haters will Goalpost shift if the Cowboys win the Superbowl…..”tHe tALeNT WaS WoRSt iN NFL“:laugh:

Dak Haters are imbeciles……
 

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Did Dak play good in the TB playoff game? Again its not diferent than giving him credit for playing bad in the SF game. Take Daks name out of it and I feel the same way about any QB, there are good QB's who had bad games against TB last year but if we are talking about Dak's playoff games then you dont just throw out the ones that dont help an argument you use them all or it looks like a rigged argument.
See my reply above to marathon.

I will answer your question. Did he play well?

Yes.

and your final statement...also has a corollary. Using a bad team to showcase Dak ability...might look liek a rigged argument.
 

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So IF the Cowboys Lost to the Tampa???:huh: :lmao: Dak Haters will Goalpost shift if the Cowboys win the Superbowl…..”tHe tALeNT WaS WoRSt iN NFL“:laugh:

Dak Haters are imbeciles……
We are supposed to do this without insults...remember?

I don;t deal in "what ifs". You can make ASSumptions all you want.

I am not a Dak hater. I am on record as saying we can win with him I am on record as giving him the support he needs to win..which includes not making him be what he isn't. I have some criticisms for him. I have NEVER called for his head, never said he sucks.

In you head this makes me a hater. What a really weird, odd take that is.

Now you will tell me I am some kind of "shadow hater". Becausewell...honestly?...you lie. Not a name calling insult it's just the fact of what you are doing.
 

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Just watched the video. It's so much different when you actually see the whole field and have someone explain what you're watching. Having been a WR myself, a lot of what Martz said made a lot of sense to me.
 

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See my reply above to marathon.

I will answer your question. Did he play well?

Yes.

and your final statement...also has a corollary. Using a bad team to showcase Dak ability...might look liek a rigged argument.
Not if he played a good game... because then i state the fact he played a bad game against SF, i'm not dismissing either game.
 

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Not if he played a good game... because then i state the fact he played a bad game against SF, i'm not dismissing either game.
I don't know what you are saying here. Sorry.

AS i said...i do not deal in ":what ifs".

Good game against a bad team.
Bad game against a good team.

It would SEEM to be an M.O.


And...losses are NOT ....all on him either, mkay?
 

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So IF the Cowboys Lost to the Tampa???:huh: :lmao: Dak Haters will Goalpost shift if the Cowboys win the Superbowl…..”tHe tALeNT WaS WoRSt iN NFL“:laugh:

Dak Haters are imbeciles……
Love the polite comments keep them coming......... :thumbdown:
 

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so in your logic a QB who throw 15 interceptions while also missing 5 is a 42 mil QB ? give me your opinion because these are facts that i am stating.
Many QBs come in and make a differnce and take their teams to SB and CCG . Not Dak. We have seen what mahommes , Burrows , but also saw stafford take the rams to a win in the SB. We saw hurts in his second year take the eagles to the SB. Heck , the 49ers rookie QB , and the last person drafted took them to the CCG and outplayed Dak. Too many examples . These are not opinions.
once again, you prove that you can't stick to a single line of logic or reasoning. you are all over the map. initial discussion was on the rankings and why/if Dak ranks above/below certain players. you just took a 90 degree left turn into somewhere in the sand dunes. what does 42M have to do with rankings?. that had nothing to do in the discussion to this point and you are so desparately trying to change the argument.
btw, his average per year was 40M, now its 42M. I guess by next week is 44 and the week after its 46. or what ever number suits you. also, have you seen the top 15 QB salaries? have you seen the top 12? that's NFL for you baby.

and how many QBs come in and make a difference? did Murray make a difference? did watson make a difference last year? and based on stats, wins, whatever you want to use, Dak is a top 10 QB....if you don't like him. then so be it. just say it. none of what you have mentioned adds up to anything as yet.
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btw, Stafford was the #1 over all pick. he didn't accomplish anything for his first 12 years. some good teams that were in Detroit and he couldn't get over the hump. until he got the right coach, right players around him. the rams going out and signing and trading mid season for Odell. their defense was #1 ranked defense. but here we are, you arguing that Dak needs a strong team around him to succeed and then there is stafford. btw, this past year stafford led a 5-12 team. couldn't beat a handicapped dallas team. based on your previous logic (remember Geno argument), does that make him worse than dak?

and , if you know a mahomes, burrow and what not elite QB anywhere, please tell me and I am all 130% onboard on going and getting one. people throw around those names, as if they just fall off the plum tree. Burrow was the #1 over all pick. do we have #1 over all pick? is there a burrow coming out? if we had #1 overall pick this year who would you take. put your name next to one....
Mahomes is once in a generation talent. he was actually the 2nd QB drafted that year. but hey lets call 1-800-ELITE QB and lets just order one and have it fedex-ed. I don't know, maybe Amazon has some...we should check

I did see hurts take his team to superbowl. I also saw Philly trade for a top 5 WR. draft a few more, build the best OL in football by far, have the best running attack and build a top 2 defense. yeah, hurts just put the team on his back and carry them tot he superbowl.

come on dude, where are you going to take your argument next? maybe you should do another 90 degree turn.

p.s. Do you have ADHD? not that I am calling you anything. just wondering
 

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If Mike Martz is trying to hush Daks critics there must be one heck of a lot of them. And usually where theres smoke theres fire.
 

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Interesting analysis. Some he puts on the WR, I don't necessarily agree with but he is one of the best offensive minds this league has seen. Should be fun to see all of the usuals try and argue with an offensive genius lol.


https://www.the33rdteam.com/categor...mprovement-from-cowboys-dak-prescott-in-2023/

Interesting analysis. Some he puts on the WR, I don't necessarily agree with but he is one of the best offensive minds this league has seen. Should be fun to see all of the usuals try and argue with an offensive genius lol.


https://www.the33rdteam.com/categor...mprovement-from-cowboys-dak-prescott-in-2023/
"I don't necessiarly agree with"...lol
 

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No there are many who were better options than dak depending on which year you are refereing to.
Last 2 years dak is in the 14-16 ranking behind the top QBs like Mahomes, Brady ,Burrows, lawrence , Allen, Hurts, Rodgers, Herbert, Watson , Geno , jackson , Stafford, Garapolo, Cousins , Murray etc
Says who? You? Watson, Garapolo, Murray? BWAAAAAA!!!!!
 

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Don't disagree with much. HE hasn't shown us to be that guy yet. But you do think he showed it against the Buccaneers, no?

Well I disagree on Hurts. Ultimately, his fumble for 6 cost his team the game.
Then you havent paid attention to his performances in Dak's playoff career. Last years SF game was the first time he stunk up the joint.
 

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you must be a dak slobberer and completely trolling anyone who criticizes dak. Dak managed to throw 15 interceptions while missing 5 game !!! enjoy your boy and your low football IQ
Buddy, your not qualified to talk about Dak or any other QB. You havent gotten anything right yet in regards to Dak.

The only one with a low football IQ is you and your band of trolls. LOL

Another 12-5 season for the boys and Dak making chumps out of the lot of you.
 

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Stunk two years ago too.
He played well enough to win. 250 yards and 2 TD's. Defense lost that game. But I got news for you...........Dak has played 7 seasons and been in 6 playoff games. Did you watch the Tampa game or are you one of those cherry pickers? How about the other 3 playoff games? How did Dak play last year against the Eagles?

Got any other silly comments you need me to disprove?
 
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