Mike Vanderjagt's stats

[rojan]

1-29(0/0)
20-29(5/6)
30-39(5/6)
40-49(1/4)
50+(1/1)

 

[AbeBeta]

I'm glad someone is FINALLY discussing this.

 

[Cowboy4ever]

I think that equals out to around 70-71%,, what is the league average?

 

[Vintage]

So all we need to do is get a delay of game, offsides, etc if Vanderjagt is kicking from 45 yards to get him in a more confortable range?

And if its in the 40-44 range, perhaps a holding call?

 

[Doomsday]

This season so far 455 FG have been made and 594 have been attempted for 76 to 77 percent.

From 40-49 yards and league made was 140 out of 192 attemps or 72%.

 

[AbeBeta]

Take out the block and he's 76% -- right around the league average.

 

[blindzebra]

Take out the block and he's 76% -- right around the league average.

We aren't paying 2 million for average.

That kick is getting blocked even without the break down, he never got it up, it was like 4 feet off the ground and it was almost to the LOS.

 

[harkm]

We aren't paying 2 million for average.

That kick is getting blocked even without the break down, he never got it up, it was like 4 feet off the ground and it was almost to the LOS.

I watched it over and over on Tivo and the kick was fine. It wasn't blocked by anybody jumping up behind the line of scrimmage so the kick wasn't low at all.

 

[Hoofbite]

We aren't paying 2 million for average.

That kick is getting blocked even without the break down, he never got it up, it was like 4 feet off the ground and it was almost to the LOS.

yeah, last i checked......cundiff and cortez were somewhere in the league average.....Dallas paid for the most accurate kicker in NFL history and has been screwed on the deal. Personally, I wouldn't mind the team just biting the bullet and cutting him. At least suisham can kick off......Having the ball land at the 10 yard line every time sure doesn't do anyone any favors.

 

[cowboyed]

Take out the block and he's 76% -- right around the league average.

Unfortunately he has defined himself not only above average but the best, and he is getting paid serious dollars as a kicker. From that standpoint he is failing but the good news is that he can still redeem himself.

 

[blindzebra]

I watched it over and over on Tivo and the kick was fine. It wasn't blocked by anybody jumping up behind the line of scrimmage so the kick wasn't low at all.

I never said it was blocked by anyone jumping at the LOS, mainly because nobody would have needed to jump.

When the kick was blocked it was over half way to the line and it was STILL BELOW THE ARMPIT LEVEL OF THE GUYS AT THE LOS.

I doubt it would have cleared the line.

 

[AbeBeta]

We aren't paying 2 million for average.

Season isn't over yet. At any one point in the year half of the kickers in the league are going to be below average.

As for that kick your opinion differs from just about every single one I've read on that kick.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

We aren't paying 2 million for average.

That kick is getting blocked even without the break down, he never got it up, it was like 4 feet off the ground and it was almost to the LOS.

It was supposed to be the best kicker in NFL history.

 

[blindzebra]

Season isn't over yet. At any one point in the year half of the kickers in the league are going to be below average.

As for that kick your opinion differs from just about every single one I've read on that kick.

Why do I care what every other opinion was? All I have read is about the Columbo breakdown, with an assist from Witten causing a man to come free.

I watched the replay.

I've seen the still pics.

And the damned ball was less then 4 feet off the ground over half way to the LOS, so unless it was gonna do a DRAMATIC change of course, it was going to have a real problem clearing the LOS.

 

[pancakeman]

So all we need to do is get a delay of game, offsides, etc if Vanderjagt is kicking from 45 yards to get him in a more confortable range?

And if its in the 40-44 range, perhaps a holding call?

:laugh2:

 

[AbeBeta]

Why do I care what every other opinion was? All I have read is about the Columbo breakdown, with an assist from Witten causing a man to come free.

I watched the replay.

I've seen the still pics.

And the damned ball was less then 4 feet off the ground over half way to the LOS, so unless it was gonna do a DRAMATIC change of course, it was going to have a real problem clearing the LOS.

I just re-watched that.

How can you possibly claim the kick was below the armpit level of the guys at the LOS?

Vincent is jumping in the air -- he is jumping sideways but you can clearly see that he is about halfway between the LOS and the spot and he hits the ball when the ball is it at nearly the same level as Gurode's head - maybe not the top of his head but roughly halfway. Gurode is 6'4".

So let's say the ball is 6 feet in the air after travelling 4 yards. At that trajectory, in another 2 yards, that ball is 9 feet in the air. Most defenders can't get several feet in the air if they are being blocked correctly.

 

[jimmy40]

Why do I care what every other opinion was? All I have read is about the Columbo breakdown, with an assist from Witten causing a man to come free.

I watched the replay.

I've seen the still pics.

And the damned ball was less then 4 feet off the ground over half way to the LOS, so unless it was gonna do a DRAMATIC change of course, it was going to have a real problem clearing the LOS.

I think the second happiest person behind Vincent was Vandy so he could pop off about how you couldn't put that block on him instead of explaining why the ball hit someone in the back of the head.

 

[COWBOYSNUM1]

Why do I care what every other opinion was? All I have read is about the Columbo breakdown, with an assist from Witten causing a man to come free.

I watched the replay.

I've seen the still pics.

And the damned ball was less then 4 feet off the ground over half way to the LOS, so unless it was gonna do a DRAMATIC change of course, it was going to have a real problem clearing the LOS.

Sometimes when you don't like a certain player or a certain team, you see what you want to see.

BTW, I was using "you" in general and not pointing a finger at blindzebra.

 

[Seven]

Take out the block and he's 76% -- right around the league average.

Better yet ......add the misses, ya know, the one's he should of made. Average........Finkle is getting PAID.

 

[Seven]

I just re-watched that.

How can you possibly claim the kick was below the armpit level of the guys at the LOS?

Vincent is jumping in the air -- he is jumping sideways but you can clearly see that he is about halfway between the LOS and the spot and he hits the ball when the ball is it at nearly the same level as Gurode's head - maybe not the top of his head but roughly halfway. Gurode is 6'4".

So let's say the ball is 6 feet in the air after travelling 4 yards. At that trajectory, in another 2 yards, that ball is 9 feet in the air. Most defenders can't get several feet in the air if they are being blocked correctly.

At what trajectory? You got a grid on your display? Show me your hypothesis as to your conclusion of 9 feet. How do you know that being blocked correctly would prevent a defender from obtaining a 9 foot vertical?
I would assume a chip would prevent that.