Miles Austin Question

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We gave him a 2nd round tender. But he is still a Restricted Free Agent. If someone signs him to a deal, regardless of the money at this point, do you think it is a guarantee we will match it?
 

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Yeah im pretty sure.

I'll bet you money Parcells has already asked Jerry this very question.

I remember when Sean Payton wanted Keith Davis and he started bidding on him and Parcells was so furious at the time.

He went on to say that he has to learn to talk to the people in charge and ask them if theyll match offers so the team doesn't have to over spend.

Kind of a courtesy thing.

I find it interesting the Lions thought he was worth a 2nd rounder and even Parcells may think he is worth a 2nd rounder and if anyone knows it would be him.

Food for thought....

If Payton thought Romo was worth a 3rd before he ever took a snap as the starter how good must Miles Austin be if Parcells thinks he is worth a 2nd?
 

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After releasing TO, absolutely. Not a chance he makes it to another team.
 

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Hostile;2681902 said:
We gave him a 2nd round tender. But he is still a Restricted Free Agent. If someone signs him to a deal, regardless of the money at this point, do you think it is a guarantee we will match it?

I don't think we'll match anything that is high. Not with Hurd and the perennial Stanback still around.
But I think it would be a big mistake, nonetheless, to lose Ausin. Overall, I don't think we'd match. On the other hand, we've just lost our biggest offensive threat, so we can't afford to lose Austin now.
We've developed Austin, we keep him.
 

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Not at all, Dallas will use it to draft another WR. They're cheaper.

Let's hope that team has a high 2nd round pick. ;)
 

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I can't think of a team willing to spend a 2nd rounder on an unproven wide reciever who wasn't drafted, but if he does get an offer from someone like Daniel Snyder there's no question we match it.
 

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Teams seem to be doing desperate things this offseason, so this question is a reasonable one. I think the salary cap will be the final determination on some of these players. The coaches seem to like the progress and think Austin will be a good player, but if the cost is high then it becomes a business decision.
 

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Jon88;2681919 said:
I can't think of a team willing to spend a 2nd rounder on an unproven wide reciever who wasn't drafted, but if he does get an offer from someon like Daniel Snyder there's no question we match it.

If you are a team looking for a WR it may not be a bad trade.

He has every tool imaginable and has even shown flashes in the league with limited opportunities.

He may be a lower risk than most rookie 2nd rounders and may be more physically gifted too.
 

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CATCH17;2681927 said:
If you are a team looking for a WR it may not be a bad trade.

He has every tool imaginable and has even shown flashes in the league with limited opportunities.

He may be a lower risk than most rookie 2nd rounders and may be more physically gifted too.

I agree. I would not be at all surprised to see a team come after him. He has the speed, seems to be a team guy, and always appears to go full speed...his issue of dropping balls seems behind him (or is that because of how many TO drops we forgot).
 

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I'm hesitant to say they'd "absolutely" match it. I mean, what if some bass-acwkards team came calling with a $30 million contract. Sure, it sounds crazy, but haven't we seen crazier?

It wouldn't be financially wise to match such a deal. What if he never amounts to anything more than a talented, but injury prone No. 3 receiver? The Cowboys would look absolutely silly.

In such an instance, I think you take the pick, hope Roy is a legitimate No. 1, rely on Crayton as the steady but unspectacular No. 2 and draft/sign a cheaper No. 3 alternative, as unsexy as that might be.

But I do think they will, and have to, match any fair or sane offer.
 

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CATCH17;2681927 said:
If you are a team looking for a WR it may not be a bad trade.

He has every tool imaginable and has even shown flashes in the league with limited opportunities.

He may be a lower risk than most rookie 2nd rounders and may be more physically gifted too.

My long term concern with Austin remains that while he has the tools, does he have any of the finer points of the position nailed down?

Certainly, last preseason he showed his ball-location ability has skyrocketed from years past. He can go up and pluck it and make the spectacular catch.

But can he beat jams at the line? Does he run good routes? All those types of things that typically make or break careers.

I mean, outside of his two-catch game against Green Bay, he's never exactly been a key part of the offense for whatever reason (too many people ahead of him, too many injuries, etc).

Just a concern I have, though I do agree his measurables are certainly terrific.
 

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SLATEmosphere;2681939 said:
Yes we match it. It can't be anything big............right!?

Al Davis is on the phone, Slate. He has something he wants to say to you.
 

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RainMan;2681937 said:
I'm hesitant to say they'd "absolutely" match it. I mean, what if some bass-acwkards team came calling with a $30 million contract. Sure, it sounds crazy, but haven't we seen crazier?

It wouldn't be financially wise to match such a deal. What if he never amounts to anything more than a talented, but injury prone No. 3 receiver? The Cowboys would look absolutely silly.

In such an instance, I think you take the pick, hope Roy is a legitimate No. 1, rely on Crayton as the steady but unspectacular No. 2 and draft/sign a cheaper No. 3 alternative, as unsexy as that might be.

But I do think they will, and have to, match any fair or sane offer.
This is my thinking as well. I think there is a dollar limit that Dallas would match and if it goes beyond that (and I think it is smaller than we might imagine) they will let him walk even though they waived Popcorn Fart.
 

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RainMan;2681942 said:
My long term concern with Austin remains that while he has the tools, does he have any of the finer points of the position nailed down?

Certainly, last preseason he showed his ball-location ability has skyrocketed from years past. He can go up and pluck it and make the spectacular catch.

But can he beat jams at the line? Does he run good routes? All those types of things that typically make or break careers.

I mean, outside of his two-catch game against Green Bay, he's never exactly been a key part of the offense for whatever reason (too many people ahead of him, too many injuries, etc).

Just a concern I have, though I do agree his measurables are certainly terrific.

I agree. And these concerns are very valid. Everyone seems to get caught up on "potential" and losses sight of actual performance at times.

I also question how good the recievers coaches are at Dallas. The recievers have not run the best routes over the past few years....which many fans have blamed the players for....as it continues I am starting to think it is coaching.
 

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Hostile;2681944 said:
This is my thinking as well. I think there is a dollar limit that Dallas would match and if it goes beyond that (and I think it is smaller than we might imagine) they will let him walk even though they waived Popcorn Fart.

Agreed. It's easy for some of us here to get excited about his potential and hate to see him leave. It reminds me of Patrick Jeffers of years ago, to a certain extent, only that Jeffers was more proven.

You don't want him to leave, but you also have to be smart about it. And I think you might be onto something in saying our limit could be smaller than we might think. Isn't Crayton already making $18 million or so? Would it be that shocking to see the Cowboys not want to pay Austin that amount too?
 

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Hostile;2681944 said:
This is my thinking as well. I think there is a dollar limit that Dallas would match and if it goes beyond that (and I think it is smaller than we might imagine) they will let him walk even though they waived Popcorn Fart.

Watch Popcorn Fart become Buffalo Wings...still dropping more passes than most recievers will ever see.
 

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Disturbed;2681950 said:
Watch Popcorn Fart become Buffalo Wings...still dropping more passes than most recievers will ever see.
Hope they've got their snow cones ready.
 

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Haha, Popcorn Fart, thats a good one. Just saw an interview with Trent Edwards, i really like him...i kindof feel bad for what he is about to experience. He has no clue and i think Buffalo doesn’t realize how big of a storm that is coming. That said, i feel really good about the WRs on the roster, even if Austin was to leave, i think Hurd could do the job. But need to draft some speed.
 

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I think we match anything reasonable. If some team tries to "poison pill" us with a clause that Austin's entire contract is guaranteed if he plays 3 games in the state of Texas or some other crap like that, then we let him walk.


Even if a team doesnt "poison pill" us and just offers straight cash, I dont see us going above $2 million a year or so (maybe $3 mill if we really think he can be a starter).


The issue is probably moot, I really dont see a team giving up a 2nd rounder for an unproven WR like Austin, of course there is always that one team that surprises everybody..............so well see fairly soon.
 
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