Miles Austin

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That really isn't he incentive. We won't keep him at 8.2, we would restructure that and bring the total down significantly.

And we could go on restructuring him if they sign him to an extension. So it's not necessarily just a 2 year thing, but outside of that yeah we would be looking at moving him off the roster in 2015.

They've already restructured the guy... I think restructuring him again would be a real desperate measure.

At this point they can move him after the 2014 season. Restructuring him is only going to push that number out further, which isn't a good thing.
 

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The way the contract is cut up it seems unlikely that he doesn't see at least next season, it's in fact likely he sees the entire contract.
 

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Why focus on the negative here.

Miles has looked really good this preseason and seems to have his burst back. He does drop some easy passes but also makes some incredible catches with his strength. Our offense becomes much weaker without Austin complimenting Dez. Perhaps his contract can be tweaked a bit at a later date if he is overpaid somewhere down the road. Right now he is a $6M/yr player.

It means it's basically a wash... And you still have to replace the player.

I don't see Austin being released before 2015.

Both good comments.

Miles' biggest problem is that he's been slowed down by his hammys. When healthy, he's just as good as ever.

He has looked good in the preseason and the way he attacked that DB in the Cincy game (I think) was awesome. If he stays healthy he's a guy who's worth his pay check.
 

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They've already restructured the guy... I think restructuring him again would be a real desperate measure.

At this point they can move him after the 2014 season. Restructuring him is only going to push that number out further, which isn't a good thing.

You really misunderstand what restructuring is. It isn't a desperate move at all, it's just financial accounting. Accounting that was originally planned since he was resigned in the first place.

If Austin has the top rated year that he could have, I see no reason why we wouldn't try and extend him a couple years, and restructure his 2014 and 2015 contracts. Simply makes sense. Again, it depends on how he plays.
 

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You really misunderstand what restructuring is. It isn't a desperate move at all, it's just financial accounting. Accounting that was originally planned since he was resigned in the first place.

If Austin has the top rated year that he could have, I see no reason why we wouldn't try and extend him a couple years, and restructure his 2014 and 2015 contracts. Simply makes sense. Again, it depends on how he plays.

I'm not sure what you've said does anything to shoot down his claim. No matter what Dallas does, they have to account for the money they have already restructured. That 7.8M that will be left after this year doesn't go away by adding another year or two to his current contract. They've already paid him that amount, it must be accounted for.

What are you going to restructure? His relatively cheap base salaries of 5.5M and 6.8M dollars? Good luck.
 

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I'm not sure what you've said does anything to shoot down his claim. No matter what Dallas does, they have to account for the money they have already restructured. That 7.8M that will be left after this year doesn't go away by adding another year or two to his current contract. They've already paid him that amount, it must be accounted for.

What are you going to restructure? His relatively cheap base salaries of 5.5M and 6.8M dollars? Good luck.

That 7.8 is spread out over the course of three years... So it never counts more than 2.7 million in a year. And yeah, you can spread out 5.5 and 6.8 million... Not sure how that is cheap, and his restructured proration is somehow expensive...
 

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I doubt he sees 2016. Not at a base salary of 11M+

I could be mistaken but won't a majority of that be "dead money" meaning that we will see a very marginal improvement if we cut him? Similar to how next year we only save 400K by parting with him.
 

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Targets by distance, based on the length of the throw (air yards only). 2010 targets are excluded because of Romo's injury. The last number is the passer rating.

10+ yards
Bryant 64 of 118 54.2% 1522 yd 23.8 ypc 15 td 2 int 5.7 yac/rec 131.9
Austin 77 of 165 46.7% 1687 yd 21.9 ypc 17 td 7 int 5.7 yac/rec 100.2

Less than 10 yards
Bryant...91 of 119 76.5% 788 yd.....8.7 ypc 6 td 3 int...4.5 yac/rec 99.7
Austin 126 of 182 69.2% 1433 yd 11.4 ypc 10 td 0 int 6.5 yac/rec 110.9
 

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Miles Austin is a phenomenal player in my eyes.
I believe he can stay healthy.
he is a GREAT asset to have on this offense.
Physically, extremely fast, and big[for a WR] and not built like a noodle[with injures you could argue otherwise]

If he gets hurt again this year,then I change my mind.
 

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Targets by distance, based on the length of the throw (air yards only). 2010 targets are excluded because of Romo's injury. The last number is the passer rating.

10+ yards
Bryant 64 of 118 54.2% 1522 yd 23.8 ypc 15 td 2 int 5.7 yac/rec 131.9
Austin 77 of 165 46.7% 1687 yd 21.9 ypc 17 td 7 int 5.7 yac/rec 100.2

Less than 10 yards
Bryant...91 of 119 76.5% 788 yd.....8.7 ypc 6 td 3 int...4.5 yac/rec 99.7
Austin 126 of 182 69.2% 1433 yd 11.4 ypc 10 td 0 int 6.5 yac/rec 110.9

The most interesting thing to me on those stats is Dez's phenomenally low INT rate on long balls (2/118) and Miles' phenomenally low INT rate on the shorter passes (0/182).

When you look at their splits it is easy to see how complimentary they are. Miles thrives underneath but can go deep while Dez thrives deep but can also work the short pass. Both are good YAC guys.

I'm really anxious to see both going full bore this year. Dez now has the knowledge, skills and discipline to be a great WR. Miles now has his health back to put up 2009 type numbers again. If we get decent pass blocking and okay run blocking we should be lights out on offense this year. I especially love the idea of Witten and Dunbar working the zones underneath those two with all the attention they will drag with them.
 

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That really isn't he incentive. We won't keep him at 8.2, we would restructure that and bring the total down significantly.

And we could go on restructuring him if they sign him to an extension. So it's not necessarily just a 2 year thing, but outside of that yeah we would be looking at moving him off the roster in 2015.

You're saying Austin's incentive isn't to earn the most he can or are you saying that's not the Cowboy's incentive?
 

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Why focus on the negative here.

Miles has looked really good this preseason and seems to have his burst back. He does drop some easy passes but also makes some incredible catches with his strength. Our offense becomes much weaker without Austin complimenting Dez. Perhaps his contract can be tweaked a bit at a later date if he is overpaid somewhere down the road. Right now he is a $6M/yr player.

I'm not specifically focusing on the negative, I'm trying to gather facts and opinions...
 

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You're saying Austin's incentive isn't to earn the most he can or are you saying that's not the Cowboy's incentive?

I'm saying that playing well is always it's own incentive, but not necessarily having anything to do with that 8.2 million, since we aren't going to keep him at that level. We will restructure him or he will be gone.
 

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I'm high on Miles this year. I love him in the slot as a "move the chains" target over the middle and a red zone target because you know Dez is going to attract all the attention inside the 20. I think Miles has a great year and stays with the team 1 more year giving TWill 2 full years to grow into a legitimate #2 WR. That's just my opinion.
 

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The real question is whether Austin is worth his annual salary and whether we can absorb the dead money impact of any transaction.

Any previously given bonuses that have been prorated over the remainder of his contract are a sunk cost that will eventually be counted against the cap at some point in time.

So long as Miles is worth more than his slated salary it makes sense to keep him.

If his slated salary is above what he is worth and we can absorb the dead money we are probably better off cutting him and moving onwards with another player.

The key year is probably 2015 where we will either have to release him or renegotiate. There is no way we will pay him $11M at age 31 while we are paying Dez around the same.
 
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