Miles Austin

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I'm not seeing the search feature assuming because the board is more active and it would only slow the place down?

Anyways I'm of the strong opinion that despite having a contract in place, Austin is indeed playing for a "New" contract, possibly showcasing his skill or worth for a potential new team not to mention prove that he can stay healthy, and is worth another 2-3 years to somebody. I don't believe we keep him unless he takes a pay cut and/or plays a full 16+ weeks at a very high level...

What are the fine details of his current contract and what is the consensus thought about Austin?

I found this online but I'm not a numbers guy:

2014:BASE $5,500,000-
MISC. $2,748,400

CAP HIT $8,248,400


DEAD $7,853,600

Greek to me..

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/miles-austin/

Austin did not take a pay cut, but did shift some of his $6.732 million base salary to a signing bonus in order to spread the cap hit out over the three years left on his deal. Like all the other restructuring around the league, it is a save now and pay later deal that will mean more salary cap squeezes in the years to come for the Cowboys.

Does this guarantee we keep him if he finally stays healthy and plays at a high level?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/28/miles-austin-restructures-his-contract/

And then I found this:

If Miles wasn't bad and he was a productive receiver who made plays, then why does he receive the criticism he does and why are we talking about him potentially not being a member of the Dallas Cowboys next year? Like many things in life, it comes down to dollars-and-cents.

While Dez Bryant has taken over as the primary big-play threat and "number one" receiver, we've seen Miles basically become the number two wideout. Now if he were paid like a number two, then some of the fans and media would back off and give him more credit. But when you are getting paid like the main guy, that can become a unique and troublesome situation. The Cowboys may have to seriously consider their options in 2014.


Dallas' perpetual cap problems could make Austin a pay-cut candidate or cap casualty if his productivity declines or the injuries continue.

So basically this is why I say its a, "Contract Year" for Miles:

But as Tom Ryle pointed out the other day in his article, Miles knows better than anyone that you're a few steps away from having a job taken away from you in the NFL. After all, Austin was an undrafted free agent who clawed his way into a starting role. He won't go out without a fight, he's a fierce competitor with athletic ability and it wouldn't be surprising to see a high level of play from him in 2013.

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2013...as-cowboys-free-agency-2013-nfl-training-camp

In short, I'm rooting for Austin to give us 16+ games at a very very high level, and I believe he is due for a run of good health.. What do you think?
 

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He can be anything he wants to be as long as he remains healthy.
What a broken record.
As long as he remains healthy.

The guy is a great WR otherwise.
 

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He can be anything he wants to be as long as he remains healthy.
What a broken record.
As long as he remains healthy.

The guy is a great WR otherwise.

Umm yeah but are we going to keep him next year?
 

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If you look at his contract, it makes a lot of sense to restructure him one more time next year.
 

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Umm yeah but are we going to keep him next year?

Let me flip my coin... Crud! It landed on it's side!
Where's my Magic 8-Ball.
What? It won't land on an answer?

Hold on, bro- I'ma do you a solid and call Miss Cleo... that's 99 cents a minute, yo.
She said "Everyt'ing is Irie"

Well, I hope that helped. That's all I could get,
 

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If you look at his contract, it makes a lot of sense to restructure him one more time next year.

Do you understand the implications of his current contract? And yes I concur, restructure him and keep him another year assuming he finally gets over the hammy issues once and for all...
 

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I know... I'm useless for a good answer to a serious question, but I delegated as best I could.
 

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Let me flip my coin... Crud! It landed on it's side!
Where's my Magic 8-Ball.
What? It won't land on an answer?

Hold on, bro- I'ma do you a solid and call Miss Cleo... that's 99 cents a minute, yo.
She said "Everyt'ing is Irie"

Well, I hope that helped. That's all I could get,

Ok Beavis, I'm not asking you to predict the future, if you read what I initially posted, the question is do you understand his contract and then do you keep him if his production and health justifies it, or do you try to restructure his contract?
 

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Do you understand the implications of his current contract? And yes I concur, restructure him and keep him another year assuming he finally gets over the hammy issues once and for all...

Yeah I do understand the implications of his current contract. There is no signing bonus, all the money that is spread out into future years is from restructured contracts, and there is room to do it again next year, and then potentially work something out with him base salary wise going on from there. Might even be worth trading in 2015, if we can find someone who he can come to an agreement with.

Even if he plays as he did last year, it would be worth restructuring his contract next year.
 

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Yeah I do understand the implications of his current contract. There is no signing bonus, all the money that is spread out into future years is from restructured contracts, and there is room to do it again next year, and then potentially work something out with him base salary wise going on from there. Might even be worth trading in 2015, if we can find someone who he can come to an agreement with.

Even if he plays as he did last year, it would be worth restructuring his contract next year.

Ok what does this mean?
"CAP HIT $8,248,400"
"DEAD $7,853,600"
 

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Ok what does this mean?
"CAP HIT $8,248,400"
"DEAD $7,853,600"

To cut him results in dead money of 7.8 million that can be dispersed over time depending on when he is cut. If he is traded it all accelerates into next year's cap. His cap hit for the year as it stands would be 8.2 million dollars.
 

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I like Miles, he just drops too many passes and is hurt too often to be a real #1. Too bad we paid him like a #1.
 

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austin only has two years left at max with this team. we will need to release him to free up money to sign Bryant to the same kind of contract that Austin cap slot takes now. hopefully by then Williams will be able to take Austin spot as the number two receiver.
 

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To cut him results in dead money of 7.8 million that can be dispersed over time depending on when he is cut. If he is traded it all accelerates into next year's cap. His cap hit for the year as it stands would be 8.2 million dollars.

So his incentive is play well enough to warrant keeping him at $8.2 mill, or showcase for another team...

We got what one or two years tops and then we need that dough for Dez?
 

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So his incentive is play well enough to warrant keeping him at $8.2 mill, or showcase for another team...

We got what one or two years tops and then we need that dough for Dez?

That really isn't he incentive. We won't keep him at 8.2, we would restructure that and bring the total down significantly.

And we could go on restructuring him if they sign him to an extension. So it's not necessarily just a 2 year thing, but outside of that yeah we would be looking at moving him off the roster in 2015.
 

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Why focus on the negative here.

Miles has looked really good this preseason and seems to have his burst back. He does drop some easy passes but also makes some incredible catches with his strength. Our offense becomes much weaker without Austin complimenting Dez. Perhaps his contract can be tweaked a bit at a later date if he is overpaid somewhere down the road. Right now he is a $6M/yr player.
 

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What the numbers mean is...if you cut Austin next year you save almost 400k which is a meaningless number. You would never cut Austin over 400k, that would be a stupid move.

You need to read up on dead money and guaranteed money, it will help you when trying to figure out cap numbers.

Austin nor the team will not restructure his contract in 2014, he has or will already have been paid by renegotiating his contract a few times already.

The over 7mil you are looking at is money Austin has already been paid by 2014....that's why it has become dead money.
 

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People are really sleeping on Miles Austin. Imagine the fear a #1 corner has going up against Dez Bryant knowing that they are going to get some serious help, then imagine what a #2 corner feels preparing to go against Miles Austin, with probably not so much help.

The guy just needs to stay healthy and he appears to be that. A lot of us thought he was a top 5 receiver for a while. 2009-2010 he was just tearing it up. If he can get back to that, and Dez explodes like we think he will.. and Terrance comes in and cleans up the single coverage... it should be interesting.
 
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