Milton will push the cowboys over the top

[CT Dal Fan]

The overreaction here is hilarious.

The Cowboys swap two late round picks to get a long term developmental project that will vie for the number 2 QB spot and suddenly he's the answer to three decades of misery.

I am rooting for Milton and I truly hope he is Dak's eventual successor. But if he has to play right away.....we're screwed.

 

[darthseinfeld]

If everything goes right with the Cowboys, Joe Milton never plays a down for you

More and more thats looking lile fantasy. Prescott injury history might be worse than Romo's at this point

 

[cowboyec]

Joe Mama didn't win a superbowl though.

neither did joe kapp.

 

[Denim Chicken]

If everything goes right with the Cowboys, Joe Milton never plays a down for you

Nothing ever goes right with the Cowboys, though.

 

[starfan1]

The overreaction here is hilarious.

The Cowboys swap two late round picks to get a long term developmental project that will vie for the number 2 QB spot and suddenly he's the answer to three decades of misery.

I am rooting for Milton and I truly hope he is Dak's eventual successor. But if he has to play right away.....we're screwed.

Our fanbase is dumb Milton should start and we are gonna rue the day we let Rush walk

Jerry finally made a deal he didn’t get screwed on with a developmental guy with upside nothing more lol.

 

[gimmesix]

I see more a perfect combination of Tom Brady and Lamar Jackson. Maybe with a little John Elway throw in.

Compared to Milton? Amateurs!

 

[Sydla]

He’s exactly the playmaker we need. Reminds me of a mix between Vick and Herbert

It will be an exciting day as a cowboys fan to see this guy starting. Get him another weapon, and I see a top 5 offense.

I’m just happy we have hope for the future and #4’s days are looking to be numbered.

LOL.

And aaaaaaawwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy we go!

 

[KJJ]

I believe there was a similar thread about Trey Lance when we traded for him. lol

 

[Aven8]

If he could just be a poor man’s Cam Newton I would be stoked.

 

[gimmesix]

WAY too many people aren’t understanding that Prescott is just now entering his record setting deal, and it’s not at all structured as team friendly.

The first year we could get out of the deal at a cap savings is 2027 and that's if we don't restructure his contract before then. Of course, the 2027 dead cap hit would be $55 million (compared to $68 million to keep him), so 2028 is probably more realistic ($32 million to cut, $78 million to keep).

I think we are more likely to restructure his $40 million base next year to add cap space.

 

[montgod]

LOL.

And aaaaaaawwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy we go!

Not sure folks are understanding that Milton is a cheap developmental addition. Don't expect Rush type wins if Dak gets injured. They'll prob sign a vet off the street if that happens

 

[blueblood70]

Milton won't help until Dak is hurt. Now that might happen early in the season.

I don't understand the concern, but this isn't as bad as it looks everyone keeps acting like he's been hurt a lot and he gets banged up he's in one of those positions especially with a lack of explosive run game and explosive #2 target some bad separation bad play calling...

I mean there's a lot of reasons why he's gotten hurt but it was 2020 when he had a major injury, he played three straight years where he started and finished the season.. he had a one game one of the years he missed in a couple games in 2022, but he came back and played way better than Cooper rush when he got back in I don't want to hear about the interceptions, the man played really well he brought the offense from the bottom of the cellar back to the top five, that's a fact...

Just stepping back to 2020, let's remember how familiar that was the defense was horrible to start the season they would have to have a high scoring losses he was trying to keep him in games and he got hurt; the offensive line was in shambles, they were falling down all over the place, in 2021 nobody thought he would start that season and have such a good season but he did; 37 touchdowns and 10 interceptions one of his best seasons..

That's what I'm expecting, he's working hard this isn't Tony Romo Tony romo's back issues are harder to deal with than some of these other injuries that Daks had.

plus daks and way better shape, I don't want to hear about the comps between the two, there is no comp when it comes to their body types, and Prescott looks like he's even working extra hard this offseason... I mean he's in tremendous shape as far as pictures go.. so if we're going to be negative around here every time we see a guy with his shirt off like Zeke and call him fat... this dude's in like great shape doesn't have the dad Bod that we saw with Romo, big ben, or Tom Brady or right now it looks like Patrick Mahomes is living off the fumes of his past championships because he doesn't look like he's in very good shape either.

I'm not saying that all this means he won't get hurt, but I'm just telling you he's working hard to make sure he's giving himself the best chance that he's not going to come out and get hurt this year.... I mean you can't plan for it but you could definitely put your body in really good shape and then get in really good conditioning could help.. That's a freak injury with the hamstring that doesn't happen very often. It's also a freak injury when someone tackles you and then just lays all their weight on your ankle. it's just a bad coincidence when something like that happens...​

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it's the NFL dudes are big and fast and sometimes you get hurt but this is not like he's injury prone in that kind of way again he started three straight years after 2020... I've seen Joe Burrow since college be just as hurt just as banged up if you look around you can start looking at that at other quarterbacks and other positions around the NFL it just happens...​

 

[fivetwos]

The first year we could get out of the deal at a cap savings is 2027 and that's if we don't restructure his contract before then. Of course, the 2027 dead cap hit would be $55 million (compared to $68 million to keep him), so 2028 is probably more realistic ($32 million to cut, $78 million to keep).

I think we are more likely to restructure his $40 million base last year to add cap space.

Fine but take a look at the structure. The part where in a given March, they have to guarantee the base salary for the season following the upcoming one, when the upcoming one is already guaranteed.

I’m not talking about cap hit. I’m talking about cash salary that he hasn’t yet collected.

They could cut him next March, but would still need to pay him 40 million in cash, pro rated weekly, for the 2026 season. The dead money hit is something else. You know that though.

What if Milton never gets a shot to play during that time? They are cutting Dak to hand the job to him? Man they would look like pure idiots and rightfully so.

Same thing the following March, but the 2027 salary goes to 45 million, but I’d imagine the cap hit is less.

I can’t think of one example on a contract of that size where this has been done.

The only way out is talking him into a trade, after he is just starting a family and built his custom dream home in Dallas.

Hey man I’d love for it to work, and again…I actually like Milton, and would be pumped over this deal IF they didn’t resign Dak…but the timing is wrong again, very similar to Lance. There’s no clear lane for him to get the reps he needs. They actually have to hope that the guy they made the highest paid player gets hurt for it to have a shot to work out. I suppose that’s part of outsmarting the rest of the league, as they have been doing for decades now.

 

[starfan1]

Milton isn’t here to replace Dak ! He’s here as Rush’s replacement but cheaper and more upside

Is it possible sure but doubtful and if it happens that’s a win

 

[JW82]

He’s exactly the playmaker we need. Reminds me of a mix between Vick and Herbert

It will be an exciting day as a cowboys fan to see this guy starting. Get him another weapon, and I see a top 5 offense.

I’m just happy we have hope for the future and #4’s days are looking to be numbered.

Great post Joe! Welcome to the team!

 

[blueblood70]

Fine but take a look at the structure. The part where in a given March, they have to guarantee the base salary for the season following the upcoming one, when the upcoming one is already guaranteed.

I’m not talking about cap hit. I’m talking about cash salary that he hasn’t yet collected.

They could cut him next March, but would still need to pay him 40 million in cash, pro rated weekly, for the 2026 season. The dead money hit is something else. You know that though.

What if Milton never gets a shot to play during that time? They are cutting Dak to hand the job to him? Man they would look like pure idiots and rightfully so.

Same thing the following March, but the 2027 salary goes to 45 million, but I’d imagine the cap hit is less.

I can’t think of one example on a contract of that size where this has been done.

The only way out is talking him into a trade, after he is just starting a family and built his custom dream home in Dallas.

Hey man I’d love for it to work, and again…I actually like Milton, and would be pumped over this deal IF they didn’t resign Dak…but the timing is wrong again, very similar to Lance. There’s no clear lane for him to get the reps he needs. They actually have to hope that the guy they made the highest paid player gets hurt for it to have a shot to work out. I suppose that’s part of outsmarting the rest of the league, as they have been doing for decades now.

It's not exactly the same situation Lance had a fifth year option it cost the Cowboys more money to keep him around and it cost him a higher draft pick and he was behind cooper rush..

So he can get more reps both in practice and preseason and whatever clean up and mock duty or somehow Prescott gets injured and he's built more like Cam Newton I mean he's almost an exact duplicate of Cam Newton I'm not saying on the same level right now as skill set goes but they seem to be almost perfect comp so I think he can handle coming in and packages and run the football and throw when needed if they decide to use them that way he can because he'll be the number 2 less he gets beat out by Greer or they bring in a veteran...

So, it's not the same as Lance,​

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Lance did not impress Mike McCarthy enough to cut Cooper rush or make Cooper rush the 3rd on the team and the Cowboys have three years of cheaper cap hits to get this going as far as development goes and progress in figuring out how to use the guy....​

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As far as getting out from Prescott's contract I'm not getting into all the weirdness of trying to figure out the cap you guys go a little too deep for this I do believe he'll be here for two seasons and unless he's on a full on collapse where he just can't play anymore and it's injury prone and he just looks terrible he will play the next two seasons and then they will figure out a way if at that time it makes sense they will cut him that's why everyone's looking at 2027 as the first possible year without Prescott but if he's playing well and he's not injured then we don't need to worry about it but if they're looking to cut him Denver did it with Russell Wilson after they paid him I believe he two seasons under his new deal or at least two seasons with Denver and then they ate a bunch of money so it is doable if you have a young guy in the mix that you think you can go with and if you're as bad as Denver was and you get a top five pick or whatever then sure there's a way out if they want it bad enough after 2026.....​

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Sure would be nice though,​

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to have an actual run game, you know an offensive line playing well when it counts the actual tight end and the number 2 target so that way we don't have to keep putting all this on Prescott literally that's the truth if Prescott's on that eagles team he easily wins with the same scenario that hurts had,same with Matthew Stafford, and the Rams...​

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you put Prescott on that team they covered up the fact that Stafford let the league in interceptions and through 2 interceptions in the Super bowl and they won Prescott has that same ability he just hasn't had the same team in the postseason..​

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I don't care what happens in the regular season or offensive line forgets how to block, they forget how to run the ball, they forget how to stop the run, they can't make the plays that are there for them and they have too many penalties that's a fact so we don't need to worry about who the quarterback is 2 years from now we need to worry about what the team looks like come September that's what's important to me...​

 

[leeblair]

He’s exactly the playmaker we need. Reminds me of a mix between Vick and Herbert

It will be an exciting day as a cowboys fan to see this guy starting. Get him another weapon, and I see a top 5 offense.

I’m just happy we have hope for the future and #4’s days are looking to be numbered.

Not as long as Dak is here with that huge contract.
Jerry will demand that the higher priced player play.

 

[CWR]

He’s exactly the playmaker we need. Reminds me of a mix between Vick and Herbert

It will be an exciting day as a cowboys fan to see this guy starting. Get him another weapon, and I see a top 5 offense.

I’m just happy we have hope for the future and #4’s days are looking to be numbered.

At times I've considered your hate for Dak as irrational, BUT I'm 1000% with you on the hope for Milton.

 

[gimmesix]

Fine but take a look at the structure. The part where in a given March, they have to guarantee the base salary for the season following the upcoming one, when the upcoming one is already guaranteed.

I’m not talking about cap hit. I’m talking about cash salary that he hasn’t yet collected.

They could cut him next March, but would still need to pay him 40 million in cash, pro rated weekly, for the 2026 season. The dead money hit is something else. You know that though.

What if Milton never gets a shot to play during that time? They are cutting Dak to hand the job to him? Man they would look like pure idiots and rightfully so.

Same thing the following March, but the 2027 salary goes to 45 million, but I’d imagine the cap hit is less.

I can’t think of one example on a contract of that size where this has been done.

Good points. That's part of why 2028 is the most realistic point for cutting him, even though $17 million of his base for that year guarantees in 2027.

By then, we should have a real good idea of whether we want to move on with Milton or draft a first-round QB. If he's the primary backup he'll likely have gotten the reps he's needed and even had to play in some regular-season games.

I don't think the timing is wrong. They get a backup for three years to their highly-paid quarterback, with the opportunity to see if he can show that he should be more than that. If he does, they could get back a return on investment or could have a relatively cheap starter with some experience in place (for possibly a reasonable re-sign) when it becomes feasible to part ways with Dak.

 

[plymkr]

JOE namath won a super bowl.
JOE montana won 4 super bowls.
JOE flacco won a super bowl.

JOE milton??????

I think 5-8 Super Bowls is the bare minimum, if at least 5 super bowls don’t happen then Jerry got fleeced.