Misgivings about Deuce Vaughn

[Jumbo075]

I watched a couple of games with Deuce Vaughn, and although he has some wiggle, and broke off some good runs in college, he also has an awful lot of plays where he gets stopped at the line of scrimmage. Due to his slight build, he gets swallowed up easily. I expect he will have an awful lot of carries in the NFL that go for zero yards - more than fans will be willing to tolerate.

He’s a great story, and I wish the kid well. But just based on their bodies of work to date, I have more trust that Ronald Jones will be a better back up to Pollard than Vaughn. Of course, I am MORE THAN WILLING to be wrong, but I don’t have a lot of hope that Vaughn will become a meaningful contributor in the Cowboys offense - at least not until he bulks up considerably. But even if he does, he still doesn’t have the break-away speed that you’d like to see in a backup gadget type RB.

Sorry to fans of Deuce, but that’s my honest opinion. I would have preferred picking Tucker out of Syracuse.

 

[visionary]

Kid can be a very good complementary back or nothing lead back

If we’re playing Pollard and Vaughn we better have a starting quality RB as #2 and, No, that is not Luepke

 

[xwalker]

I watched a couple of games with Deuce Vaughn, and although he has some wiggle, and broke off some good runs in college, he also has an awful lot of plays where he gets stopped at the line of scrimmage. Due to his slight build, he gets swallowed up easily. I expect he will have an awful lot of carries in the NFL that go for zero yards - more than fans will be willing to tolerate.

He’s a great story, and I wish the kid well. But just based on their bodies of work to date, I have more trust that Ronald Jones will be a better back up to Pollard than Vaughn. Of course, I am MORE THAN WILLING to be wrong, but I don’t have a lot of hope that Vaughn will become a meaningful contributor in the Cowboys offense - at least not until he bulks up considerably. But even if he does, he still doesn’t have the break-away speed that you’d like to see in a backup gadget type RB.

Sorry to fans of Deuce, but that’s my honest opinion. I would have preferred picking Tucker out of Syracuse.

Most receiving yards of any RB in this draft.

More rushing yards than any of the top 10 RBs in this draft.

 

[kramskoi]

Most receiving yards of any RB in this draft.

More rushing yards than any of the top 10 RBs in this draft.

I watched a 35 minute highlight video of his efforts. I was highly impressed. Did a lot of damage against power 5 schools. The guy is small in stature but legit. It would be a great shame if the Cowboys don't figure out a way to get this guy involved in the offense...rushing and receiving.

 

[Jumbo075]

Most receiving yards of any RB in this draft.

More rushing yards than any of the top 10 RBs in this draft.

I know. But I just think playing the odds is a better bet. The odds are against him becoming a good NFL RB. But like I said, I’m more than willing to be wrong. The “exceptions to the rule” make for great feel good stories.

 

[dsturgeon]

I watched a couple of games with Deuce Vaughn, and although he has some wiggle, and broke off some good runs in college, he also has an awful lot of plays where he gets stopped at the line of scrimmage. Due to his slight build, he gets swallowed up easily. I expect he will have an awful lot of carries in the NFL that go for zero yards - more than fans will be willing to tolerate.

He’s a great story, and I wish the kid well. But just based on their bodies of work to date, I have more trust that Ronald Jones will be a better back up to Pollard than Vaughn. Of course, I am MORE THAN WILLING to be wrong, but I don’t have a lot of hope that Vaughn will become a meaningful contributor in the Cowboys offense - at least not until he bulks up considerably. But even if he does, he still doesn’t have the break-away speed that you’d like to see in a backup gadget type RB.

Sorry to fans of Deuce, but that’s my honest opinion. I would have preferred picking Tucker out of Syracuse.

Was he stopped at the line running inside, outside, or both?

 

[Clove]

I watched a couple of games with Deuce Vaughn, and although he has some wiggle, and broke off some good runs in college, he also has an awful lot of plays where he gets stopped at the line of scrimmage. Due to his slight build, he gets swallowed up easily. I expect he will have an awful lot of carries in the NFL that go for zero yards - more than fans will be willing to tolerate.

He’s a great story, and I wish the kid well. But just based on their bodies of work to date, I have more trust that Ronald Jones will be a better back up to Pollard than Vaughn. Of course, I am MORE THAN WILLING to be wrong, but I don’t have a lot of hope that Vaughn will become a meaningful contributor in the Cowboys offense - at least not until he bulks up considerably. But even if he does, he still doesn’t have the break-away speed that you’d like to see in a backup gadget type RB.

Sorry to fans of Deuce, but that’s my honest opinion. I would have preferred picking Tucker out of Syracuse.

Don't sleep on his receiving.

 

[Jumbo075]

Was he stopped at the line running inside, outside, or both?

Both

 

[dsturgeon]

Both

That is not good. Feast or famine

Until we see him on the actual roster, I will not think too much about an undersized 7th rounder.

 

[xwalker]

I know. But I just think playing the odds is a better bet. The odds are against him becoming a good NFL RB. But like I said, I’m more than willing to be wrong. The “exceptions to the rule” make for great feel good stories.

He'll be good in a limited snaps role.

Darren Sproles averaged playing about 1/3rd of snaps.

Sproles had significantly more receiving yards than rushing yards.

 

[America's Cowboy]

All RBs in this year's draft got stopped many times at the line of scrimmage. There wasn't a legit power runner who could frequently pick up positive yards at impact in this 2023 Draft.

 

[xwalker]

I know. But I just think playing the odds is a better bet. The odds are against him becoming a good NFL RB. But like I said, I’m more than willing to be wrong. The “exceptions to the rule” make for great feel good stories.

He might be #2 RB in terms of snaps played but not the 2nd RB on the depth chart if Pollard misses a game.

 

[Techsass]

Well crap you just ruined my evening. I don't watch college ball, so I've only seen highlights. Still how did he rack up so much yardage?

He's become my pet cat offensive player of this draft. 6th round diamond in the rough.

 

[exciter]

I watched a couple of games with Deuce Vaughn, and although he has some wiggle, and broke off some good runs in college, he also has an awful lot of plays where he gets stopped at the line of scrimmage. Due to his slight build, he gets swallowed up easily. I expect he will have an awful lot of carries in the NFL that go for zero yards - more than fans will be willing to tolerate.

He’s a great story, and I wish the kid well. But just based on their bodies of work to date, I have more trust that Ronald Jones will be a better back up to Pollard than Vaughn. Of course, I am MORE THAN WILLING to be wrong, but I don’t have a lot of hope that Vaughn will become a meaningful contributor in the Cowboys offense - at least not until he bulks up considerably. But even if he does, he still doesn’t have the break-away speed that you’d like to see in a backup gadget type RB.

Sorry to fans of Deuce, but that’s my honest opinion. I would have preferred picking Tucker out of Syracuse.

Barry Sanders had an inordinate number of runs where he was stopped for no gain or tfl. He lived off the one’s he broke. Vaughn isn’t going to be a “bell cow”… he’s someone you try to get 6 to 10 touches a game.. 3 to 5 of those out in space!

 

[Jumbo075]

Barry Sanders had an inordinate number of runs where he was stopped for no gain or tfl. He lived off the one’s he broke. Vaughn isn’t going to be a “bell cow”… he’s someone you try to get 6 to 10 touches a game.. 3 to 5 of those out in space!

Barry was over 200 lbs. And Barry was way faster than most NFL players, much less running backs.

I didn’t see a lot of tackle breaking ability in watching Deuce film. He was successful by avoiding contact.

 

[Havic]

Vaughn would be best utilized as a receiving weapon and 3-5 runs a game imo. I mean this is just speculation from his college tape.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I watched a couple of games with Deuce Vaughn, and although he has some wiggle, and broke off some good runs in college, he also has an awful lot of plays where he gets stopped at the line of scrimmage. Due to his slight build, he gets swallowed up easily. I expect he will have an awful lot of carries in the NFL that go for zero yards - more than fans will be willing to tolerate.

Perfectly describes a HOFer - Barry Sanders.

Not saying Vaughn is Sanders in any way.

 

[Rayman70]

I watched a couple of games with Deuce Vaughn, and although he has some wiggle, and broke off some good runs in college, he also has an awful lot of plays where he gets stopped at the line of scrimmage. Due to his slight build, he gets swallowed up easily. I expect he will have an awful lot of carries in the NFL that go for zero yards - more than fans will be willing to tolerate.

He’s a great story, and I wish the kid well. But just based on their bodies of work to date, I have more trust that Ronald Jones will be a better back up to Pollard than Vaughn. Of course, I am MORE THAN WILLING to be wrong, but I don’t have a lot of hope that Vaughn will become a meaningful contributor in the Cowboys offense - at least not until he bulks up considerably. But even if he does, he still doesn’t have the break-away speed that you’d like to see in a backup gadget type RB.

Sorry to fans of Deuce, but that’s my honest opinion. I would have preferred picking Tucker out of Syracuse.

fair but Zeke has had many plays where he get stuffed at the line. All backs have this issue. Deuce makes up for it by getting 3-4 chunk yard plays during the course of a game that affects the outcome. He runs routes and catches the ball great. Zeke cant. Ill take my chances with the kid.

 

[DoctorChicken]

I am a big fan of Vaughn, but you are correct.

You can observe the occasional snap from him where it appears that he misses the hole, maybe due to his size (?).

He makes up for it in other ways.

 

[Techsass]

I'm willing to wait & see what Deuce does. He'll probably get more reps in TC just because of the stats he put up in college.