MMQB - Dallas Draft: Looking Back

[ThreeandOut]

It's funny .. I see none of these so-called experts calling themselves out for all of the negative things they said about Prescott after the draft, yet they love to make other people look bad even when the situation never happened.

Except for the ones on this board, I don't recall the draft experts criticizing the Dak pick. Most seemed to think to think he was decent value for where he was picked. You could criticize them for not regarding him higher, but the same could be said for 32 NFL GMs.

 

[Reality]

Except for the ones on this board, I don't recall the draft experts criticizing the Dak pick. Most seemed to think to think he was decent value for where he was picked. You could criticize them for not regarding him higher, but the same could be said for 32 NFL GMs.

Actually, they all said several negative things about him.

• "The Cowboys needed a quarterback that could start if Romo gets hurts."
• "Prescott never played under center and it will take him a couple of years to get used to it, if then."
• "Prescott is not accurate."
• "Prescott only checks the first option before running."
• "Prescott runs too much and won't last long in the NFL doing it."
• "Prescott has off-the-field issues."
• "The Cowboys better get a veteran quarterback because you don't want Prescott on the field his first year."
• "Prescott is a developmental quarterback."

I could easily post a lot more of these .. as a Dak fan in college, I paid very close attention to everything that was being said about him by all of the so-called experts leading up to and after the draft.

 

[ThreeandOut]

Actually, they all said several negative things about him.

• "The Cowboys needed a quarterback that could start if Romo gets hurts."
• "Prescott never played under center and it will take him a couple of years to get used to it, if then."
• "Prescott is not accurate."
• "Prescott only checks the first option before running."
• "Prescott runs too much and won't last long in the NFL doing it."
• "Prescott has off-the-field issues."
• "The Cowboys better get a veteran quarterback because you don't want Prescott on the field his first year."
• "Prescott is a developmental quarterback."

I could easily post a lot more of these .. as a Dak fan in college, I paid very close attention to everything that was being said about him by all of the so-called experts leading up to and after the draft.

Actually, they all said several negative things about him.

• "The Cowboys needed a quarterback that could start if Romo gets hurts."
• "Prescott never played under center and it will take him a couple of years to get used to it, if then."
• "Prescott is not accurate."
• "Prescott only checks the first option before running."
• "Prescott runs too much and won't last long in the NFL doing it."
• "Prescott has off-the-field issues."
• "The Cowboys better get a veteran quarterback because you don't want Prescott on the field his first year."
• "Prescott is a developmental quarterback."

I could easily post a lot more of these .. as a Dak fan in college, I paid very close attention to everything that was being said about him by all of the so-called experts leading up to and after the draft.

Yeah, he was definitely misevaluated, both by the draft experts and the NLF. My point was that I don't think the Cowboys were criticized for taking him at the end of the 4th round. Most felt this was appropriate value.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Were you saying this about cook during the draft?

Many people in the draft section questioned his leadership.

 

[reddyuta]

Were you saying this about cook during the draft?

Absolutely ,something about him screams a weak guy,when our team mates dont like you then there is something wrong.

 

[Seven]

Actually, they all said several negative things about him.

• "The Cowboys needed a quarterback that could start if Romo gets hurts."
• "Prescott never played under center and it will take him a couple of years to get used to it, if then."
• "Prescott is not accurate."
• "Prescott only checks the first option before running."
• "Prescott runs too much and won't last long in the NFL doing it."
• "Prescott has off-the-field issues."
• "The Cowboys better get a veteran quarterback because you don't want Prescott on the field his first year."
• "Prescott is a developmental quarterback."

I could easily post a lot more of these .. as a Dak fan in college, I paid very close attention to everything that was being said about him by all of the so-called experts leading up to and after the draft.

I even heard one say he was a Tim Tebow!! Swear.

 

[dallasdave]

I even heard one say he was a Tim Tebow!! Swear.

 

[percyhoward]

Yeah, he was definitely misevaluated, both by the draft experts and the NLF.

He was misevaluated by most of the league, and by most of the Dallas brain trust, including McClay, Garrett, and the Joneses.

But Linehan had him rated as one of the top QB in the draft, along with Wentz and Goff. Imagine Linehan's frustration when we took Tapper with our first pick in the 4th, and his relief when Prescott was still available with our second pick in the 4th.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I even heard one say he was a Tim Tebow!! Swear.

Exactly.

There were very few of us before the draft who thought Prescott would be a good match for the Cowboys...

Damn few of us.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

He was misevaluated by most of the league, and by most of the Dallas brain trust, including McClay, Garrett, and the Joneses.

But Linehan had him rated as one of the top QB in the draft, along with Wentz and Goff. Imagine Linehan's frustration when we took Tapper with our first pick in the 4th, and his relief when Prescott was still available with our second pick in the 4th.

Ourlads had it right also.

In September of '15 they had their early college prospect guide come out... And who was their top-rated senior QB?

Dak Prescott.

 

[Reality]

I even heard one say he was a Tim Tebow!! Swear.

Yeah, I tried to ignore that one

 

[ThreeandOut]

He was misevaluated by most of the league, and by most of the Dallas brain trust, including McClay, Garrett, and the Joneses.

But Linehan had him rated as one of the top QB in the draft, along with Wentz and Goff. Imagine Linehan's frustration when we took Tapper with our first pick in the 4th, and his relief when Prescott was still available with our second pick in the 4th.

As much interest as Dallas showed in Dak leading up to the draft, it was surprising to me that they didn't have him rated higher.

Linehan was the one person on the staff to have him evaluated correctly. It's funny that he liked Goff, Wentz and Dak when the Cowboys placed so much effort in trying to get Lynch and Cook.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I'll admit it, I HATED this draft. I really liked what I saw out of Ramsey. I've watched him this year and he's already very good. I thought we needed a secondary given how awful our DB's where last year (sans Byron). The DB's have turned it around, but we are missing Church and Mo right now.

I was also very big into Paxton Lynch, who I think is going to be very good. I did like Dak and liked him as a 4th round pick, but at the time...when you have a chance to get a QB like Lynch, I thought you take it. I didn't think Romo was going to last next season.

I liked EE, I just didn't like him at #4 overall at the time. He's much more explosive than I thought he was and while I thought he was a well coached RB, he's so far ahead of the curve it's ridiculous to watch. I will say this, if you really believe that a RB is a future HoF'er, there's nothing wrong with taking him at #4 overall. It's just that you better make sure that the RB is rated that well because you can get really good RB's later on. EE was the highest graded RB out of college they ever had, so I commend them for making that decision.

I liked the Collins pick in the 3rd round. I was skeptical about the Brown pick, but did feel he could play special teams. Now I watch Brown and I'm stunned he wasn't drafted much higher. Great speed, great tackler and plays zone well and is very capable in man coverage.

I hated the Gathers pick because everybody forgets that Antonio Gates was an all-state HS football player in Michigan. Gathers has no real football experience whatsoever. But, they proved me wrong with this draft so far, so I've come around on Gathers. Although I think he might be better suited as an offensive tackle.

I did like the Frazier and Jackson picks. Frazier hasn't done much, but I liked what I saw out of Jackson in preseason. He's just a little lost on the depth chart.

So, we have Dak and EE. Dak has a Brady quality in him in that he doesn't make bad decisions, but doesn't exactly wow you other than making it look fairly easy. And EE reminds me of a cross between Emmitt and Roger Craig. Combine that with Collins being a solid looking player, Brown potentially being a Pro Bowl corner, Frazier being a Barry Church but with speed, Jackson being a Michael Bush type and then if Jaylon Smith can play and Gathers lives up to his potential, this could be the best draft in the team's history.




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[dwmyers]

I even heard one say he was a Tim Tebow!! Swear.

This is actually pretty close to the truth for all of them. The most common comment about Dak was that he was "a better Tim Tebow". He had a better arm, better release, most liked his intangibles and most analysts felt it would take him a couple years to be an effective NFL QB. But, as JJ said on Colin's show, Dak's intangibles are off the charts.

D-

 

[percyhoward]

Linehan was the one person on the staff to have him evaluated correctly. It's funny that he liked Goff, Wentz and Dak when the Cowboys placed so much effort in trying to get Lynch and Cook.

He also would have started Moore in all the games Romo didn't play in 2015, ahead of Weeden or Cassel.

 

[plasticman]

I think the Cowboys would have taken Dak regardless of whether they drafted a QB with an earlier pick. I think Jason thought that much about him. Taking two quarterbacks had been done before, Im pretty sure the Commanders were grateful they took Cousins after already taking RG3.

Im sure they would have thought Dak could be a smart capable backup to Wendz just like they thought Staubach could back up Meredith Morton.

 

[Supercowboy1986]

I'll admit it, I HATED this draft. I really liked what I saw out of Ramsey. I've watched him this year and he's already very good. I thought we needed a secondary given how awful our DB's where last year (sans Byron). The DB's have turned it around, but we are missing Church and Mo right now.

I was also very big into Paxton Lynch, who I think is going to be very good. I did like Dak and liked him as a 4th round pick, but at the time...when you have a chance to get a QB like Lynch, I thought you take it. I didn't think Romo was going to last next season.

I liked EE, I just didn't like him at #4 overall at the time. He's much more explosive than I thought he was and while I thought he was a well coached RB, he's so far ahead of the curve it's ridiculous to watch. I will say this, if you really believe that a RB is a future HoF'er, there's nothing wrong with taking him at #4 overall. It's just that you better make sure that the RB is rated that well because you can get really good RB's later on. EE was the highest graded RB out of college they ever had, so I commend them for making that decision.

I liked the Collins pick in the 3rd round. I was skeptical about the Brown pick, but did feel he could play special teams. Now I watch Brown and I'm stunned he wasn't drafted much higher. Great speed, great tackler and plays zone well and is very capable in man coverage.

I hated the Gathers pick because everybody forgets that Antonio Gates was an all-state HS football player in Michigan. Gathers has no real football experience whatsoever. But, they proved me wrong with this draft so far, so I've come around on Gathers. Although I think he might be better suited as an offensive tackle.

I did like the Frazier and Jackson picks. Frazier hasn't done much, but I liked what I saw out of Jackson in preseason. He's just a little lost on the depth chart.

So, we have Dak and EE. Dak has a Brady quality in him in that he doesn't make bad decisions, but doesn't exactly wow you other than making it look fairly easy. And EE reminds me of a cross between Emmitt and Roger Craig. Combine that with Collins being a solid looking player, Brown potentially being a Pro Bowl corner, Frazier being a Barry Church but with speed, Jackson being a Michael Bush type and then if Jaylon Smith can play and Gathers lives up to his potential, this could be the best draft in the team's history.




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What's so great about Ramsey? Jags defense has not improved and he has no picks that I'm aware of. Do you know how many PB he has had?

Better question, how many picks, tackles, sacks, and PB does he need to warrant taking at #4

 

[waldoputty]

What's so great about Ramsey? Jags defense has not improved and he has no picks that I'm aware of. Do you know how many PB he has had?

Better question, how many picks, tackles, sacks, and PB does he need to warrant taking at #4

It takes multiple D players to significantly improve a D, unless it is a dominant edge rusher.
That is why selecting a dominant RB was picked for immediate impact on the team.
I dont think they viewed Bosa as a dominant edge rusher, and no other draftee appears to be either.

 

[Vero_F250]

The strategy was working fine until Murray fumbled and they ruled Cobbs catch a catch to set them up for a field goal. Still trying to figure that one out.

This

 

[percyhoward]

This

Again, Murray's fumble emphasizes the importance of scoring on every possession. The Packers scored 3 points off that turnover, which was at least a 6-point swing in a game that was decided by 5.

Playing with an average defense puts you at a disadvantage, no matter how many possessions there are.