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I'm assuming Cooper, Warmack and Richardson will be gone. SF wants Tavon Austin, and trades up to #18. We get #31, #61 and #180. i'm trying to be realistic with these picks. They're more what I want than what I think Dallas will do. I adhere to the BPA philosophy with an eye toward team needs.

31. Jesse Williams (DT) - 6-4, 323, Alabama
He's not Warren Sapp, but he is very quick for a guy his size and fits the Seattle DL mold to a T. Perfect 4-3 1-Tech, IMHO.

47. Brian Schwenke (C) - 6-3, 314 - California
Strong and smart with good size and great mobility. He is the 2013 center prospect for a zone blocking offensive line.

61. Phillip Thomas (FS) - 6-1, 208 - Fresno State
Tough playmaker at the FS position, with length, pretty good speed and superb instincts. He's a perfect fit for Kiffin's defense.

80. Alvin Bailey (OG) - 6-3, 312 - Arkansas
Beast of an interior OL who can mash DL at the point of attack, throw guys around with terrific strength, but who is also more than athletic and agile enough to pull and get to the second level.

114. Marcus Lattimore (RB) - 5-11, 221 - South Carolina
I wanted to put Stedman Bailey here--maybe my favorite player coming out--but I think he'll be long gone. If Lattimore recovers from his nasty knee injury, which is a huge if, he'll be the steal of the draft.

151. Reid Fragel (OT) - 6-8, 308 - Ohio State
Former TE who may be a bit of a project, but who has the frame to add weight and the tools to develop into a solid starter as a zone-blocking RT. Terrific athlete at the position. I also like Tharold Simon here (CB - LSU). Tall, long arms, physical, average to slightly above average speed. Reminds me of a budding Richard Sherman, who was also selected in the 5th round.

180. Joe Kruger (DE) - 6-6, 270 - Utah
Tall and long with good pass-rushing skills. Hard worker who plays whistle to whistle. Physically, he is very similar to his brother and seems to possess an identical work ethic and on-field temperament.

185. Earl Wolf (SS) - 5-11, 209 - NC State
He's only 5-11, but is strong, has long arms and is extremely fast. The 2012 first-team All-ACC safety covers a lot of ground and makes a ton of tackles. He had 136 last season. He also had two picks.

A couple UDFA's I like...

Sean Renfree (QB) - Dook: Good size, great arm, tutored by David Cutcliffe in college.
Ray Graham (RB) - Pittsburgh: A hell of a RB, shredding the numbers of guys like Tony Dorsett and LeSean McCoy before he tore up his knee.
 

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VACowboy;5050016 said:
I'm assuming Cooper, Warmack and Richardson will be gone. SF wants Tavon Austin, and trades up to #18. We get #31, #61 and #180. i'm trying to be realistic with these picks. They're more what I want than what I think Dallas will do. I adhere to the BPA philosophy with an eye toward team needs.

31. Jesse Williams (DT) - 6-4, 323, Alabama
He's not Warren Sapp, but he is very quick for a guy his size and fits the Seattle DL mold to a T. Perfect 4-3 1-Tech, IMHO.

47. Brian Schwenke (C) - 6-3, 314 - California
Strong and smart with good size and great mobility. He is the 2013 center prospect for a zone blocking offensive line.

61. Phillip Thomas (FS) - 6-1, 208 - Fresno State
Tough playmaker at the FS position, with length, pretty good speed and superb instincts. He's a perfect fit for Kiffin's defense.

80. Alvin Bailey (OG) - 6-3, 312 - Arkansas
Beast of an interior OL who can mash DL at the point of attack, throw guys around with terrific strength, but who is also more than athletic and agile enough to pull and get to the second level.

114. Marcus Lattimore (RB) - 5-11, 221 - South Carolina
I wanted to put Stedman Bailey here--maybe my favorite player coming out--but I think he'll be long gone. If Lattimore recovers from his nasty knee injury, which is a huge if, he'll be the steal of the draft.

151. Reid Fragel (OT) - 6-8, 308 - Ohio State
Former TE who may be a bit of a project, but who has the frame to add weight and the tools to develop into a solid starter as a zone-blocking RT. Terrific athlete at the position. I also like Tharold Simon here (CB - LSU). Tall, long arms, physical, average to slightly above average speed. Reminds me of a budding Richard Sherman, who was also selected in the 5th round.

180. Joe Kruger (DE) - 6-6, 270 - Utah
Tall and long with good pass-rushing skills. Hard worker who plays whistle to whistle. Physically, he is very similar to his brother and seems to possess an identical work ethic and on-field temperament.

185. Earl Wolf (SS) - 5-11, 209 - NC State
He's only 5-11, but is strong, has long arms and is extremely fast. The 2012 first-team All-ACC safety covers a lot of ground and makes a ton of tackles. He had 136 last season. He also had two picks.

A couple UDFA's I like...

Sean Renfree (QB) - Dook: Good size, great arm, tutored by David Cutcliffe in college.
Ray Graham (RB) - Pittsburgh: A hell of a RB, shredding the numbers of guys like Tony Dorsett and LeSean McCoy before he tore up his knee.


I would change Marcus Lattimore to Stepfan Taylor, and Reid Fragel to Josh Boyce and this mock would be one of my favorite ones thus far on a trade back.

All the other picks are very good, not sure Wolff will last that long but he could and they would be foolish not to take him.

I think we will get a WR in one round in this draft for some reason.

Great mock!
 

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VACowboy;5050016 said:
I'm assuming Cooper, Warmack and Richardson will be gone. SF wants Tavon Austin, and trades up to #18. We get #31, #61 and #180. i'm trying to be realistic with these picks. They're more what I want than what I think Dallas will do. I adhere to the BPA philosophy with an eye toward team needs.

31. Jesse Williams (DT) - 6-4, 323, Alabama
He's not Warren Sapp, but he is very quick for a guy his size and fits the Seattle DL mold to a T. Perfect 4-3 1-Tech, IMHO.

47. Brian Schwenke (C) - 6-3, 314 - California
Strong and smart with good size and great mobility. He is the 2013 center prospect for a zone blocking offensive line.

61. Phillip Thomas (FS) - 6-1, 208 - Fresno State
Tough playmaker at the FS position, with length, pretty good speed and superb instincts. He's a perfect fit for Kiffin's defense.

80. Alvin Bailey (OG) - 6-3, 312 - Arkansas
Beast of an interior OL who can mash DL at the point of attack, throw guys around with terrific strength, but who is also more than athletic and agile enough to pull and get to the second level.

114. Marcus Lattimore (RB) - 5-11, 221 - South Carolina
I wanted to put Stedman Bailey here--maybe my favorite player coming out--but I think he'll be long gone. If Lattimore recovers from his nasty knee injury, which is a huge if, he'll be the steal of the draft.

151. Reid Fragel (OT) - 6-8, 308 - Ohio State
Former TE who may be a bit of a project, but who has the frame to add weight and the tools to develop into a solid starter as a zone-blocking RT. Terrific athlete at the position. I also like Tharold Simon here (CB - LSU). Tall, long arms, physical, average to slightly above average speed. Reminds me of a budding Richard Sherman, who was also selected in the 5th round.

180. Joe Kruger (DE) - 6-6, 270 - Utah
Tall and long with good pass-rushing skills. Hard worker who plays whistle to whistle. Physically, he is very similar to his brother and seems to possess an identical work ethic and on-field temperament.

185. Earl Wolf (SS) - 5-11, 209 - NC State
He's only 5-11, but is strong, has long arms and is extremely fast. The 2012 first-team All-ACC safety covers a lot of ground and makes a ton of tackles. He had 136 last season. He also had two picks.

A couple UDFA's I like...

Sean Renfree (QB) - Dook: Good size, great arm, tutored by David Cutcliffe in college.
Ray Graham (RB) - Pittsburgh: A hell of a RB, shredding the numbers of guys like Tony Dorsett and LeSean McCoy before he tore up his knee.

Good overall mock.

I'm not a huge fan of Jesse Williams for Kiffin's defense. He did test well at the combine; however, he was not much of a pass-rusher and was often taken off the field on passing downs. I realize that he will play the 1-tech; however, Kiffin type defenses usually want all 4 DL to have pass-rush ability including the 1-tech.

With all of the RBs in this draft that appear to be capable of contributing to an NFL team, I'm not sure about drafting Lattimore who might not be able to contribute this year. I wouldn't hate the pick but I'm not sure that it is the best choice.

Reid Fragel has short arms for an OT.

I expect Wolff to get drafted earlier.
 

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No disrespect, but would you really wait until the 4th round and hope the guard from Arkansas would still be available at your 4th pick?
 

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Verdict;5050220 said:
No disrespect, but would you really wait until the 4th round and hope the guard from Arkansas would still be available at your 4th pick?

#80 is actually a third round selection. NFLDraftScout.com has Bailey listed at #101, which is Philly's pick in the fourth round. I think he's a much better player than NFLDS does.
 

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Verdict;5050220 said:
No disrespect, but would you really wait until the 4th round and hope the guard from Arkansas would still be available at your 4th pick?

What I was referring to was waiting until the 4th round to address the OL and hope that the Arkansas guard is still available?
 

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Verdict;5050228 said:
What I was referring to was waiting until the 4th round to address the OL and hope that the Arkansas guard is still available?

Am I missing something? He has us taking schwenke in round 2 to help address th interior OL.
 

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Verdict;5050228 said:
What I was referring to was waiting until the 4th round to address the OL and hope that the Arkansas guard is still available?

As I said, #80 is a third-round pick. You must have missed Shwenke at #47.

Or are you asking if I think I should wait until the fourth to pick Bailey? The answer to that is no way.
 

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VACowboy said:
I'm assuming Cooper, Warmack and Richardson will be gone. SF wants Tavon Austin, and trades up to #18. We get #31, #61 and #180. i'm trying to be realistic with these picks. They're more what I want than what I think Dallas will do. I adhere to the BPA philosophy with an eye toward team needs.

31. Jesse Williams (DT) - 6-4, 323, Alabama
He's not Warren Sapp, but he is very quick for a guy his size and fits the Seattle DL mold to a T. Perfect 4-3 1-Tech, IMHO.

47. Brian Schwenke (C) - 6-3, 314 - California
Strong and smart with good size and great mobility. He is the 2013 center prospect for a zone blocking offensive line.

61. Phillip Thomas (FS) - 6-1, 208 - Fresno State
Tough playmaker at the FS position, with length, pretty good speed and superb instincts. He's a perfect fit for Kiffin's defense.

80. Alvin Bailey (OG) - 6-3, 312 - Arkansas
Beast of an interior OL who can mash DL at the point of attack, throw guys around with terrific strength, but who is also more than athletic and agile enough to pull and get to the second level.

114. Marcus Lattimore (RB) - 5-11, 221 - South Carolina
I wanted to put Stedman Bailey here--maybe my favorite player coming out--but I think he'll be long gone. If Lattimore recovers from his nasty knee injury, which is a huge if, he'll be the steal of the draft.

151. Reid Fragel (OT) - 6-8, 308 - Ohio State
Former TE who may be a bit of a project, but who has the frame to add weight and the tools to develop into a solid starter as a zone-blocking RT. Terrific athlete at the position. I also like Tharold Simon here (CB - LSU). Tall, long arms, physical, average to slightly above average speed. Reminds me of a budding Richard Sherman, who was also selected in the 5th round.

180. Joe Kruger (DE) - 6-6, 270 - Utah
Tall and long with good pass-rushing skills. Hard worker who plays whistle to whistle. Physically, he is very similar to his brother and seems to possess an identical work ethic and on-field temperament.

185. Earl Wolf (SS) - 5-11, 209 - NC State
He's only 5-11, but is strong, has long arms and is extremely fast. The 2012 first-team All-ACC safety covers a lot of ground and makes a ton of tackles.
He had 136 last season. He also had two picks.

A couple UDFA's I like...

Sean Renfree (QB) - Dook: Good size, great arm, tutored by David Cutcliffe in college.
Ray Graham (RB) - Pittsburgh: A hell of a RB, shredding the numbers of guys like Tony Dorsett and LeSean McCoy before he tore up his knee.

like this mock, but don't like the lattimore pick. We can't draft an injured player to back up murray. Only makes sense if we take an additional back in the later rounds and redshirt lattimore for the year.


 

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laythewood28;5050320 said:
like this mock, but don't like the lattimore pick. We can't draft an injured player to back up murray. Only makes sense if we take an additional back in the later rounds and redshirt lattimore for the year.
With this many picks, it wouldn't be a bad idea to draft Lattimore and another RB. They could just put Lattimore on IR and be certain that he is completely healthy. Most 4th rounders aren't going to be significant contributors in year 1 anyway.

He does have the Cowboys signing Ray Graham as a UDFA.
 

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Don't like everything, but there's a lot to like with it. I'd be game.
 
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