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1st- SS Justin Evans, Texas A&M- Has been the big breakout player this year. Arguably the best all around safety in this years draft. Not sure if he makes it to our pick, but if he does ill take him over any WR or DL left on the board.

2nd- LB Jarrad Davis, Florida-
I know many on here are not fans of undersized linebackers but he plays much bigger then he is (6'1" 230lbs). Can play at any of the 3 linebackers postitions and he will flourish due to his elite athleticism.

3rd- DT Carlos Watkins, Clemson-
By this time the edge rusher pool will be just about dried up. So sticking with the defensive line i took the best DT in this years draft for our team. He is tailor made for Marinellis attacking 4-3 at the 1tech. More of a run stuffer at this point but he can collapse the pocket and get u many pressures. He has very high potential which if tapped into he and Collins can be a pass rushing nightmare from the interior.

4th- CB Jamar Summers, UConn-
One of my pet cats and a player who gets no mention at all in the media. Summers is going to be a steal whoever gets him. finished 2nd in Interceptions behind Desmond King with 8 last season. And like King teams are not throwing his way this year. He is very similar to Byron Jones with the same work ethic, motor, and high character. In fact he looked up to Byron Jones at UConn. A perfect fit for a team who is trying to get away from the bad eggs.

6th- WR Josh Reynolds, Texas A&M-
Not sure who will last here but i have a feeling we can walk away with a decent WR at this point. This draft is deeper at Wideout then some may think. But on to Reynolds. He is a big and strong wideout. He has good hands, solid ball skills when he has to go up and get it, and he has deceptive deep threat speed due to his long strides. He is a also a very good run blocker and hard to bring down for most DB's.

7th- CB Greg Mabin, Iowa-
The man who plays opposite of Desmond King and the man who gets picked on by opposing teams offensive coordinators. He is a solid all around athlete, decent ball skills, and is very willing to tackler in the run support. Due to his size, he can backup both corner and safety at 6'2" 205 lbs. Rod loves players who can play multiple positions.

7th- OG Brendan Mahone, Penn State- I'm sure many don't want a thing to do with Penn State offensive linemen after all the sacks they allowed on Hackenberg, but Mahone is projected as a much better guard then tackle at the next level. He is a much better run blocker then pass protector but lack of pass protection skills is much easier to hide at guard then tackle. Especially if you have Fredbeard next to him and Zeke behind him to pickup whoever slips by.
 

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Love the first two picks. We win on those alone.
Its a possible get. Teams would fear throwing deep and a Trio of Lee, Smith, and Davis would be a nightmare for opposing teams running games and as well as QBs throwing quick short passes.
 

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2nd- LB Jarrad Davis, Florida- I know many on here are not fans of undersized linebackers but he plays much bigger then he is (6'1" 230lbs). Can play at any of the 3 linebackers postitions and he will flourish due to his elite athleticism.

Unless his injury is more serious than it looked, I don't see Davis lasting this long. It's early and a lot can change, and I would love to land him in the 2nd, but it feels like a reach at this point. I think he's a late first guy. His sideline-to-sideline ability is going to be heavily coveted.
 

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Unless his injury is more serious than it looked, I don't see Davis lasting this long. It's early and a lot can change, and I would love to land him in the 2nd, but it feels like a reach at this point. I think he's a late first guy. His sideline-to-sideline ability is going to be heavily coveted.
Their is the same speculation that he will slide due to size the same way Denzel Perrymen slid to the mid 2nd round even in a weak linebacker class. This years linebacker class is pretty solid. Not a great chance he actually falls to our pick but its not out of the question. I dont see him going in the 1st. Their are at least 3 non pass rushing LBs i can see going before him and thats before the workout warriors and last minute risers come into play.
 

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Their is the same speculation that he will slide due to size the same way Denzel Perrymen slid to the mid 2nd round even in a weak linebacker class. This years linebacker class is pretty solid. Not a great chance he actually falls to our pick but its not out of the question. I dont see him going in the 1st. Their are at least 3 non pass rushing LBs i can see going before him and thats before the workout warriors and last minute risers come into play.

We'll see. I think he's a clearly better prospect than McMillan and on part with Cunningham and Foster. I don't think the NFL will see his size as an issue. Offenses are playing in space and defenses are looking for guys who can defend in space. That's what Jarrad is. He's got massive range, can defend the pass, and makes game changing plays. I wouldn't be surprised to see him go in the teens.
 

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We'll see. I think he's a clearly better prospect than McMillan and on part with Cunningham and Foster. I don't think the NFL will see his size as an issue. Offenses are playing in space and defenses are looking for guys who can defend in space. That's what Jarrad is. He's got massive range, can defend the pass, and makes game changing plays. I wouldn't be surprised to see him go in the teens.
McMillan is a traditional Mike who can easily shed big blockers to stop the run as well as blitz. Not to mention jj watts younger brother and Jack Cichy continue to rise up boards as well as the out of nowhere linebacker out of Florida. Cant forget Anthony Walker who just needs to shed some pounds to get his explosion back who is even better sideline to sideline tackler then Davis. This years Linebacker class is very solid and with teams getting bigger, stronger, and faster size does start to matter to teams. Especially with this years running back class. Lawd they all seem to be physical specimen who will be hard to bring down. like i said i dont know if Davis actually makes it to our pick but i sure as heck don't see him as a teen pick.
 

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McMillan is a traditional Mike who can easily shed big blockers to stop the run as well as blitz. Not to mention jj watts younger brother and Jack Cichy continue to rise up boards as well as the out of nowhere linebacker out of Florida. Cant forget Anthony Walker who just needs to shed some pounds to get his explosion back who is even better sideline to sideline tackler then Davis. This years Linebacker class is very solid and with teams getting bigger, stronger, and faster size does start to matter to teams. Especially with this years running back class. Lawd they all seem to be physical specimen who will be hard to bring down. like i said i dont know if Davis actually makes it to our pick but i sure as heck don't see him as a teen pick.

McMillan just isn't great in space, which is my big knock on him, and I don't think anything special when rushing the QB. Solid top 50 talent, but after really checking him out, I have no idea where the top 20 buzz is coming from.

Anzalone is going to be a stud and I like him as much as I like Davis. I don't expect him to declare, but if he does, I'd love to land him in the 2nd. I think he'd be more likely to slide, due to the injury history.

TJ Watt is an edge guy and Cichy just went down for the season, so he'll return for his senior year

Walker Jr. is solid. He's raw, but has plenty of upside. I like him, but he's clearly behind Davis, IMO.

I do agree that the class is loaded and hope we take advantage of that.
 

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McMillan just isn't great in space, which is my big knock on him, and I don't think anything special when rushing the QB. Solid top 50 talent, but after really checking him out, I have no idea where the top 20 buzz is coming from.

Anzalone is going to be a stud and I like him as much as I like Davis. I don't expect him to declare, but if he does, I'd love to land him in the 2nd. I think he'd be more likely to slide, due to the injury history.

TJ Watt is an edge guy and Cichy just went down for the season, so he'll return for his senior year

Walker Jr. is solid. He's raw, but has plenty of upside. I like him, but he's clearly behind Davis, IMO.

I do agree that the class is loaded and hope we take advantage of that.
Walker is more explosive but he gained 20 pounds to try and play the MIKE. Hopefully he drops back down to 230 for the combine so he can show his true athleticism. He will be a WILL in the NFL. I just remembered Vince Biegel just came back. Seems like a very solid SAM linebacker in a 4-3. Not big enough to be a 3-4 OLB and sure as heck not big enough to play DE. Also have Richie Brown who is a decent mid round guy as well as Josey Jewell who is having a very nice year and can be a big time riser if he has a nice Combine or pro day.

Not sure about Kendell Beckwith. Seems like we should stay away and let go to a 3-4 defense. And like i said we still have to wait for the out of nowhere small school players who make a name for themselves at the senior bowl and East vs West game. A few of these type of players always end up going sooner then u expect.

But it just hit me right now. I see many similarities in Davis and Deion Jones from last draft. Jones still went in in the later half of the 2nd and last years draft was very weak in terms of star power. I just don't see Davis as a 1st round player nor a early 2nd rounder. He may go about the same time Perrymen and Jones went but i still feel he be a player that could fall to our pick. I dont see as a pipedream kind of pick.
 

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Walker is more explosive but he gained 20 pounds to try and play the MIKE. Hopefully he drops back down to 230 for the combine so he can show his true athleticism. He will be a WILL in the NFL. I just remembered Vince Biegel just came back. Seems like a very solid SAM linebacker in a 4-3. Not big enough to be a 3-4 OLB and sure as heck not big enough to play DE. Also have Richie Brown who is a decent mid round guy as well as Josey Jewell who is having a very nice year and can be a big time riser if he has a nice Combine or pro day.

Not sure about Kendell Beckwith. Seems like we should stay away and let go to a 3-4 defense. And like i said we still have to wait for the out of nowhere small school players who make a name for themselves at the senior bowl and East vs West game. A few of these type of players always end up going sooner then u expect.

But it just hit me right now. I see many similarities in Davis and Deion Jones from last draft. Jones still went in in the later half of the 2nd and last years draft was very weak in terms of star power. I just don't see Davis as a 1st round player nor a early 2nd rounder. He may go about the same time Perrymen and Jones went but i still feel he be a player that could fall to our pick. I dont see as a pipedream kind of pick.

We'll have to agree to disagree on Davis. As it is a loaded LB group, I could certainly see him going early 2nd. But he'll be a steal at that point and is worthy of going top 25, IMO. Davis has a different build than Jones. I think he could play inside in the NFL, even. I would never say that of Jones.

I love Beckwith. He's likely a 2 down player, but he'll have a good, long career, IMO. I'd love to grab him in the 3rd as Jaylon insurance. I think he can do what McClain did for us. That said, I couldn't justify taking him before the 3rd round.
 

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We'll have to agree to disagree on Davis. As it is a loaded LB group, I could certainly see him going early 2nd. But he'll be a steal at that point and is worthy of going top 25, IMO. Davis has a different build than Jones. I think he could play inside in the NFL, even. I would never say that of Jones.

I love Beckwith. He's likely a 2 down player, but he'll have a good, long career, IMO. I'd love to grab him in the 3rd as Jaylon insurance. I think he can do what McClain did for us. That said, I couldn't justify taking him before the 3rd round.
Davis is stronger then jones but jones has legit 4.3 speed. Both 6'1" 230 and both main struggle is shedding inside blocks but Jones was being called a 4-3 will or a 3-4 ILB. I can see what you mean about Davis he has Talent. Everyone was saying no way Jones isn't taken in the 1st after all 3 of Ragland, Smith, and Jack ended up with possible Career ending injuries last year. He was always a 1st round pick in Mock drafts. He was still the 52nd pick in a weak draft with an amazing Combine and pro day showing. Same happened to Perryman in the 2015 draft. I've done so much research on top 50 talents so far and it seems everyone thinks Davis is a mid to late 2nd round pick due to a pattern in the NFL of passing on small Linebackers. Linebackers are the running backs of the defense. few have a long career due to punishment from big maulers. The ones that last have prototypical size or bigger.
 

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DLINE DLINE DLINE! You have to go dline with 1 of the first 2 picks.
Tried. Was either reach for the 6th or even 7th best DE or take the potential pro bowl safety. Same in 2nd. Reach or take a high end starter at LB. We ain't picking early this year. Gotta take what comes to you. I at least stayed with defense.
 

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Unless Gregory has some miraculous come to Jesus moment and returns, Cowboys need a pure edge rusher. There aren't really any in FA. So they have to find one in the draft.
 

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Unless Gregory has some miraculous come to Jesus moment and returns, Cowboys need a pure edge rusher. There aren't really any in FA. So they have to find one in the draft.
We better start tanking then unless you are one for reaching far down your board just to grab one.
 

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I like that you didnt force picks but I'd be real surprised if they didnt go pass rush round one.
 

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I like that you didnt force picks but I'd be real surprised if they didnt go pass rush round one.
Maybe if Carl Lawson slips i could see because talent wise he is top 10 but durability could be his reason. Smoot has disappointed this year. He has the talent but cant finish. We have enough of those type of defensive linemen already. Those are the only real 2 options i see us having at pass rush without really reaching. Took me like 3 days to decide on which 2 players i would take with my 1st and 2nd round pick. I guess my backup pick for 2nd round would be Josh Carraway out of TCU. Speed rusher with good bend and a great spin move. Seems like his ceiling would be a 7 or 8 sack a year type rusher. So pretty much another Demarcus Lawrence. Would be nice having 2 solid starting ends but he wouldn't be the piece to put us over the top.
 

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We better start tanking then unless you are one for reaching far down your board just to grab one.

Don't worry about them (no offense to anyone). It only makes sense to lean BPA over need. If guys are graded close together, need should come into play. Otherwise, it shouldn't. Hell, last year was a very clear indicator that they'll go BPA over need. We needed pass rushers just as much as we do now, and didn't touch one until the 4th.
 

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Maybe if Carl Lawson slips i could see because talent wise he is top 10 but durability could be his reason. Smoot has disappointed this year. He has the talent but cant finish. We have enough of those type of defensive linemen already. Those are the only real 2 options i see us having at pass rush without really reaching. Took me like 3 days to decide on which 2 players i would take with my 1st and 2nd round pick. I guess my backup pick for 2nd round would be Josh Carraway out of TCU. Speed rusher with good bend and a great spin move. Seems like his ceiling would be a 7 or 8 sack a year type rusher. So pretty much another Demarcus Lawrence. Would be nice having 2 solid starting ends but he wouldn't be the piece to put us over the top.

What about Takk McKinley? He's going to fly up draft boards and be in the 1st round conversation.
 

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Don't worry about them (no offense to anyone). It only makes sense to lean BPA over need. If guys are graded close together, need should come into play. Otherwise, it shouldn't. Hell, last year was a very clear indicator that they'll go BPA over need. We needed pass rushers just as much as we do now, and didn't touch one until the 4th.
I know how they fell. I have tried to make every one of my mocks have a pass rusher early but we are kicking butt this year and i dont see us picking sooner then 25 when its all set and done. Pass rushers are in such big demand that teams will always slightly reach for one when the opportunity presents itself. We need to do what New England does and just take what falls into our lap. Don't like what we see then trade the pick for future pick or picks.
 
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