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Trade 22th pick to ATL for their two 2nds-I'm hoping that a QB falls and ALT needs one

1st- Antoine Cason (Arizona-CB)
2nd- Mario Manningham (Mich-WR)
2nd - Jamaal Charles (Texas-RB)
2nd – Traded for RWillliams-WR-Det
3rd - Dwight Lowery (San Jose State-CB)
4th- Owen Schmitt (W Vir-FB)
5th- Traded to move up in the 3rd
6th- Anthony Alridge (Houston-RB)
7th- Fernando Velasco (Georgia-C)

I would sign Hamlin with the thought that RW gets released next year and Hamlin moves to the SS and Henry can take over FS with Newman and Cason the CBs with Lowery the 3rd CB. If RW improves, we can decide between Henry or Williams at that point. I think we should sign Flo to a 3yr contract and let the backups get a little more experience. We should also offer Candy and Barber a 1st round tenders.

Thoughts?
 

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dannyboy;1952640 said:
Trade 22th pick to ATL for their two 2nds-I'm hoping that a QB falls and ALT needs one

1st- Antoine Cason (Arizona-CB)
2nd- Mario Manningham (Mich-WR)
2nd - Jamaal Charles (Texas-RB)
2nd – Traded for RWillliams-WR-Det
3rd - Dwight Lowery (San Jose State-CB)
4th- Owen Schmitt (W Vir-FB)
5th- Traded to move up in the 3rd
6th- Anthony Alridge (Houston-RB)
7th- Fernando Velasco (Georgia-C)

I would sign Hamlin with the thought that RW gets released next year and Hamlin moves to the SS and Henry can take over FS with Newman and Cason the CBs with Lowery the 3rd CB. If RW improves, we can decide between Henry or Williams at that point. I think we should sign Flo to a 3yr contract and let the backups get a little more experience. We should also offer Candy and Barber a 1st round tenders.

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that doesnt even make sense
 

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All mocks lose validity once you start assuming trades, positions switches and talking about resigning "Candy".
 

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dannyboy;1952640 said:
Trade 22th pick to ATL for their two 2nds-I'm hoping that a QB falls and ALT needs one

1st- Antoine Cason (Arizona-CB)
2nd- Mario Manningham (Mich-WR)
2nd - Jamaal Charles (Texas-RB)
2nd – Traded for RWillliams-WR-Det
3rd - Dwight Lowery (San Jose State-CB)
4th- Owen Schmitt (W Vir-FB)
5th- Traded to move up in the 3rd
6th- Anthony Alridge (Houston-RB)
7th- Fernando Velasco (Georgia-C)

I would sign Hamlin with the thought that RW gets released next year and Hamlin moves to the SS and Henry can take over FS with Newman and Cason the CBs with Lowery the 3rd CB. If RW improves, we can decide between Henry or Williams at that point. I think we should sign Flo to a 3yr contract and let the backups get a little more experience. We should also offer Candy and Barber a 1st round tenders.

Thoughts?


I actually like the idea of trading out of the first in order to pick up more picks. If we could get two seconds for one first then that'd be great. A like the pick of Cason and I really like the pick of Manningham in the 2nd. Initially I wasn't too high on Manningham, maybe it was just a bias against UM WRs, but the kid can play. Of the top WRs Manningham had the most 100 yards games, the second most games with a catch over 20 yards, 2nd most over 30 yards and most over 40 yards. He's a WR who's gotten better and better over his career and I expect that to continue into the NFL.

I don't like the pick of Charles, and I doubt that we'd be able to trade a 2nd for Roy Williams. Im not entirely sold on Lowry, but he does rate highly statistically, I'll reserve judgment until after the combine. One of my favorite things about trading down for more pick is the ability to draft a guy like Owen Schmitt without having to sacrifice depth at another position in the draft. Alridge is one of those guys who I think will be out of the league pretty quickly, and I know nothing about Velasco.

So, I like some of your picks, and I like the idea of picking up two 2nds a lot, but overall there's too many high picks that I don't agree with.
 

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dannyboy;1952640 said:
Trade 22th pick to ATL for their two 2nds-I'm hoping that a QB falls and ALT needs one

1st- Antoine Cason (Arizona-CB)
2nd- Mario Manningham (Mich-WR)
2nd - Jamaal Charles (Texas-RB)
2nd – Traded for RWillliams-WR-Det
3rd - Dwight Lowery (San Jose State-CB)
4th- Owen Schmitt (W Vir-FB)
5th- Traded to move up in the 3rd
6th- Anthony Alridge (Houston-RB)
7th- Fernando Velasco (Georgia-C)

I would sign Hamlin with the thought that RW gets released next year and Hamlin moves to the SS and Henry can take over FS with Newman and Cason the CBs with Lowery the 3rd CB. If RW improves, we can decide between Henry or Williams at that point. I think we should sign Flo to a 3yr contract and let the backups get a little more experience. We should also offer Candy and Barber a 1st round tenders.

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I like it, you'll get a similar player at 22 then in the 2nd with our needs, I would like diffrent choices than Charles (Johnson) and Manningham (fast kid from UH) maybe even Lowery (if Porter or the Iowa kid fall), but I like it.
And if someone offers their 2nd and 1st next year for one of our 1st's I'd jump on it again!
 

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TheCount;1953137 said:
All mocks lose validity once you start assuming trades, positions switches and talking about resigning "Candy".
LOL, I didn't even make that far down since this mock really utilizes ones imagination ability. It is one thing to predict picks, but when you start talking about draft trades it makes it insane.

To be honest, I would like to have two 2nd rounders than one 1st. This class is a bit deeper and we can still pick up quality players in the second. Unlike last year.
 

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dannyboy;1952640 said:
Trade 22th pick to ATL for their two 2nds-I'm hoping that a QB falls and ALT needs one

1st- Antoine Cason (Arizona-CB)
2nd- Mario Manningham (Mich-WR)
2nd - Jamaal Charles (Texas-RB)
2nd – Traded for RWillliams-WR-Det
3rd - Dwight Lowery (San Jose State-CB)
4th- Owen Schmitt (W Vir-FB)
5th- Traded to move up in the 3rd
6th- Anthony Alridge (Houston-RB)
7th- Fernando Velasco (Georgia-C)

I would sign Hamlin with the thought that RW gets released next year and Hamlin moves to the SS and Henry can take over FS with Newman and Cason the CBs with Lowery the 3rd CB. If RW improves, we can decide between Henry or Williams at that point. I think we should sign Flo to a 3yr contract and let the backups get a little more experience. We should also offer Candy and Barber a 1st round tenders.

Thoughts?

I'd rather draft Quincy Carter in the 2nd round (AGAIN) then to draft Jamaal Charles in the 2nd.
 

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if this trade with atl does happen then that would mean our 2nd round would lokok like this

Calasis Campbell
Chris Johnson
Donnie Avery

1st round
Leodis Mckelvin

but thats so much of a strech and my ultimate fantasy draft i know it won't happen
 

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Rack;1953753 said:
I'd rather draft Quincy Carter in the 2nd round (AGAIN) then to draft Jamaal Charles in the 2nd.
WOW, now there is some haterd with passion. What are you, a Sooner or a Red Raider?
 

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DCfaninDC;1954042 said:
WOW, now there is some haterd with passion. What are you, a Sooner or a Red Raider?

I hate the sooners with a passion. I'm a notre dame fan that likes all texas teams (as long as they aren't playing ND).


Charles is just WAY overrated.
 

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Some of you guys must have some magical insight that scouts don't have to rationalize your hatred for Jamaal Charles. It's obviously not based on production (or reality), so I wonder where it comes from.
 

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Many scouts are saying Charles is a track guy playing runningback and fumbles too much to boot; 3rd round pick. The hate is probably from taking him that high.

Edit: Just looking at a couple sites, several have mentioned he might be better in situational roles or as a WR if his hands check out at the combine. Hardly a glowing endorsement for a starting runningback you expect in the 2nd.
 

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From having watched Charles a bit I think he just seems as a faster version of Cedric Benson, honestly.
 

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TheCount;1954614 said:
Some of you guys must have some magical insight that scouts don't have to rationalize your hatred for Jamaal Charles. It's obviously not based on production (or reality), so I wonder where it comes from.


Here's a reality check for ya, the most productive RB in college football history is Ron Dayne.

How 'bout them apples?

dallasfaniac;1954671 said:
Many scouts are saying Charles is a track guy playing runningback and fumbles too much to boot; 3rd round pick. The hate is probably from taking him that high.

Edit: Just looking at a couple sites, several have mentioned he might be better in situational roles or as a WR if his hands check out at the combine. Hardly a glowing endorsement for a starting runningback you expect in the 2nd.


It's not "Hate". Just cuz I'm not a UT homer doesn't mean I hate their players. Fact is many UT fans here overrate horns' players every freakin' year. It gets annoying.

And you are absolutely right, it's not that I don't like him, it's that I wouldn't draft him that early. 4th round? Maybe. Not before that though.
 

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Rack;1955067 said:
Here's a reality check for ya, the most productive RB in college football history is Ron Dayne.

How 'bout them apples?

What is your point exactly? That Charles is also a running back and also played in a college in the United States of America? Touche.

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It's not "Hate". Just cuz I'm not a UT homer doesn't mean I hate their players. Fact is many UT fans here overrate horns' players every freakin' year. It gets annoying.

And you are absolutely right, it's not that I don't like him, it's that I wouldn't draft him that early. 4th round? Maybe. Not before that though.

So it's not hate, it's just hate. Another sound argument.

As I've said before, it's not my job to sell anyone on any player, that's their job. But you have yet to give me a valid reason as to why you think he'll be a bad player.

This has got to be the first RB I've ever seen where people are knocking him BECAUSE of his athleticism. It's simply ridiculous.

In no way am I saying he's going to be the next Adrian Peterson, but to say someone wants to pick him up in the late 2nd and have guys come out of nowhere and say that is too high is silly, at least without any facts to back it up.

The valid knocks against him, in my opnion, are ball security and perhaps his vision and blocking at the next level.

Anyone saying "He looks like Cedric Benson II" is just blowing smoke.
 

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You aren't the sharpest tool in the shed, are you?



Being annoyed is the same thing as hating? How freakin' clueless can a person be?
 

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Rack;1955145 said:
You aren't the sharpest tool in the shed, are you?



Being annoyed is the same thing as hating? How freakin' clueless can a person be?

Nice, you can't come up with a legitimate response so you resort to name calling just like I knew you would. Bravo.
 

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TheCount;1955454 said:
Nice, you can't come up with a legitimate response so you resort to name calling just like I knew you would. Bravo.
Count, I have to agree with Rack. What he was trying to say that Dayne won the Heisman and supposedly the best RB in college football when he came out. Where is he now? How many SB did he win?
 
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