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jday

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Imagine, if you will, that you and 31 other friends decide to play a drinking game. You fill 7 cups with various amounts of liquor. The object of said game is to take 7 sips from various types of liquor before all the liquor in said cup is gone. In this hypothetical scenario, the strategy should be obvious: you want to take sips out of the cups with less liquor first and work your way down to the cups that have more liquor, right? Does everyone see where I am going with this?

If you guessed that I am likening this drinking game to the Cowboys potential approach to this year’s NFL draft, you are correct. I bring it up because I suspect us Cowboys fans may be in for a surprise on the first night of the draft. Why? Because, it turns out the Cowboys greatest needs (S, CB, and DE) also happen to be the fullest cups in this year draft. So, logically, one can assume that the Cowboys may actually draft a player that does not address an exact need in the first round for the simple fact that the player comes from a cup that is not as full as the cups represented by corner, defensive end and safety.

Furthermore, I think we can eliminate DE from the first round all together. Why? Aside from the aforementioned reasons suggesting that DE has several excellent candidates this year, I suspect the Cowboys also feel that DE isn’t quite the ardent need that we fans think it is. They added Demontre Moore in Free Agency, and have Tapper, D Law, David Irving and (eventually) Gregory already locked down. So unless they see a guy at 28 that is an obvious improvement on those five, Defensive End will likely be address on Day 2.

That brings us to Safety and Corner. The Cowboys have already expressed comfort in going into the season with Jeff Heath as the starter at Strong Safety. Rather that is simply posturing or not is truly beside the point. Heath, as for as the Cowboys are concerned, is a proven commodity. They trust him. Anyone they draft hasn’t earned the same respect as Heath, regardless of how great their college career was or how amazing their combine performance looks. Heath will still trump anyone they bring in until that individual proves otherwise after the fact. For this reason, I suspect the Cowboys won’t draft safety in the first round unless a clear cut improvement falls in their lap. Malik Hooker and Jamal Adams are the only two safeties I would feel comfortable as a describing as a clear cut improvement and they will likely be gone long before the Cowboys have a chance at 28. Everyone else is unproven.

So, that leaves corner. The problem here is the injuries to two of the first round candidates, Sydney Jones and Fabian Moreau. Their injuries likely pushes them out of day 1. And the Cowboys have shown in recent history (Jaylon Smith) that they will gamble on these types of injuries to secure otherwise premier players. So the question then becomes will either of these 2 make it to 60 and what corners get pushed down further as a result?

I am not a draft expert. But when it comes to the Cowboys, I do feel I have a pretty good handle on how they like to conduct business in the draft today. Outside of ability and flexibility (e.g. the ability to play several different positions), the Cowboys look for 3 things: 1. Big school / big competition. 2. Team captain / RKG. 3. High SPARQ / athlete that can compete at an NFL quality level.

If you have been watching the Cowboys draft for the last 10 years you can see why these 3 things have become so important. Remember when the Cowboys tried to be the smartest guy in the room picking up premier players from smaller schools? Remember when the Cowboys tried to bring in guys with great numbers at big schools but didn’t have the requisite speed to compete in the NFL? Remember the knuckleheads the Cowboys drafted that turned into eventual locker cancers? These missteps have shaped how the Cowboys draft today. So now, particularly for day 1 and day 2 of the draft, the Cowboys make sure they meet those big 3 before even considering the tape/combine.

With that understanding, teamed with who the Cowboys bring in for visit, you should be able to ascertain a fairly good idea of what their draft board looks like. The only missing ingredient is what the team thinks the other 31 teams will do and how they value these same players. Add in the understanding I attempted to impart with the drinking game example and you can see that there is a very good chance the Cowboys draft will be vastly different from any mock thus far offered by anyone.

Thoughts?
 

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So let me see if I have this straight

1. The Cowboys have dire glaring needs at DE, safety and CB

2. There are players in this draft who provide value at #28 at those exact positions

3. But the Cowboys will not draft them and will go in another direction

Makes perfect sense

You have out done yourself buddy
Take the rest of the day off
 

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So let me see if I have this straight

1. The Cowboys have dire glaring needs at DE, safety and CB

2. There are players in this draft who provide value at #28 at those exact positions

3. But the Cowboys will not draft them and will go in another direction

Makes perfect sense

You have out done yourself buddy
Take the rest of the day off

I'm not nearly as certain as your snarky (and useless to the conversation) response suggest, but, yes, I do believe it is possible. I also think it's possible that the Cowboys trade down. And I also think its possible that the Cowboys will take a chance on one of the op-mentioned injured Corner Backs, if they believe the value exceeds the risk. Lastly, there may be a chance that they reach for Obi at 28, but I'm sure they'd rather trade down a few spots first to pick up their missing 5th round pick and then snag Obi, particularly if Peppers is still there at 28. The OP was more or less just pointing out that it's possible they don't address any of the big 3 for the op-mentioned reasons. The thing you have to keep in mind is that there are more than 32 players with a first round grade. What that means is that guys many think will go early will fall down the board...happens every year. Of course, that is far more time with my brain than you deserve, so you are welcome.
 

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Thanks for the effort, jd
Dallas is pretty honest about going after the players they bring in for a closer look.
They're already bringing in DEs that are projected to go in the first round, so I don't think they'd pass on a DE at 28 if the right one is there.

I think you can apply you same logic and say in a deep class of DEs or CBs, you can expect to get a better player at that position than you normally would at 28.
 

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Thanks for the effort, jd
Dallas is pretty honest about going after the players they bring in for a closer look.
They're already bringing in DEs that are projected to go in the first round, so I don't think they'd pass on a DE at 28 if the right one is there.

I think you can apply you same logic and say in a deep class of DEs or CBs, you can expect to get a better player at that position than you normally would at 28.
Fair argument...And I agree it is possible they do address the big 3...And to be honest, like many of you, I hope they do. But I'm pretty dure the Cowboys also like what they already have at DE. Bringing de in for a visit doesn't necessarily mean that is the direction they will go. It comes down to who they would prefer start amongst what they already have. At a guess, if they do address the big 3, I'm thinking Obi for the simple fact that having him and Byron back there would be a good combination. I don't see a de that fits there system falling to them. Jmho, though.
 

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I'm not nearly as certain as your snarky (and useless to the conversation) response suggest, but, yes, I do believe it is possible. I also think it's possible that the Cowboys trade down. And I also think its possible that the Cowboys will take a chance on one of the op-mentioned injured Corner Backs, if they believe the value exceeds the risk. Lastly, there may be a chance that they reach for Obi at 28, but I'm sure they'd rather trade down a few spots first to pick up their missing 5th round pick and then snag Obi, particularly if Peppers is still there at 28. The OP was more or less just pointing out that it's possible they don't address any of the big 3 for the op-mentioned reasons. The thing you have to keep in mind is that there are more than 32 players with a first round grade. What that means is that guys many think will go early will fall down the board...happens every year. Of course, that is far more time with my brain than you deserve, so you are welcome.
There are never 32 first round grades
 

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Let's just hope Jerry doesn't take your drinking game analogy to heart by hitting the Johnny Walker before making his picks.
 

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@jday

Taking it position by position:

At DE, I do think they would take that position at 28 if they really like the guy there. I get the feeling that they won't be sold on one there though. Once you get past Garrett and Barnett, there are good prospects but I'm not so sure the team will feel like they're first round good. I could see a situation where they like several DE's in the second and may very well, like you said, wait until then to take one (or even later). I don't know if that's a function of them thinking the glass is fuller (to use your analogy) or more in respect to it being simply the way the prospects stacked up.

In other words, there may be a bunch of corners, safeties, WR's, and TE's between their 2nd ranked DE (probably Barnett) and their 3rd ranked DE.

At Safety, I agree with you that they likely would be ok going into the season with Heath and probably a low to mid level FA acquisition to go along with Jones and Frazier. I'm pretty sure they know that wouldn't be ideal and if the right guy is sitting there at 28, I do think they'd pull the trigger. He would have to be well liked by the team though. Maybe a Peppers if he falls. Maybe Baker if they're truly looking for proven, big-school playmakers who have seen some big moments in big games.

Of course, they could see the position as stacked and figure they can get a good safety in the 2nd or 3rd, like you're talking about.

What I think they're going to do is take the best playmaker available at 28. If they really like a safety or a DE or a corner, I don't think they'll think twice about it. They'll just follow their board, which will likely have been stacked with playmaking, RKG, big conference experience weighed in heavily. I think they want it to be defense, but they don't really care that much if it is a S, CB or DE. They have plenty of holes on defense, they need playmakers and they don't want to miss on a guy. They won't reach for any position although they do want defense. They could even go offense if a highly ranked player fell to them... I don't think they'd hesitate. They (finally) have a method... a plan... a direction to their drafting. They know what they want in a player now. Whoever they draft at 28 is going to fit their profile, I promise you that.

So to summarize: I don't think what they end up doing will have nearly as much to do with position as your OP says. IMO, their only real "position" type thinking is the vague desire for guys on the defensive side of the ball... but even the need on defense isn't going to make them deviate from their draft board.

So my guess is defense and if you had to pin me down more than that, I'd say probably a CB or safety at 28 simply because of the depth of those two spots and my perceived gap between Barnett and the third ranked DE. Am I right? We don't know but it won't be long until we find out.
 
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