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WV Cowboy;5087464 said:
No, she did judge the people by the clothes that they wear, and by where they shop.

She punished her spoiled brat by making her shop at the lowly "thrift shop", and wear the "awful" clothes that poor people wear.

Fail.

I respect your opinion but I don't agree with it. Perhaps because, as I said earlier, we did the same thing with ours. So far as I can tell, we never had that problem again. There may have been better ways to handle this but in the end, it's the parents right and responsibility to administer discipline, as they see fit. The end result, IMO, is what is important.
 

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sacase;5087572 said:
No I think you are just imposing your own views of the poor on here.

This is the "walk a mile in their shoes" punishment.

I have not voiced my opinion or shared my views on that, .. I have only discussed the Mom's opinion, her decision, and message to her daughter.

Only read what is there.
 

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WV Cowboy;5087584 said:
I have not voiced my opinion or shared my views on that, .. I have only discussed the Mom's opinion, her decision, and message to her daughter.

Only read what is there.

As you see it, is that not so?
 

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ABQCOWBOY;5087583 said:
I respect your opinion but I don't agree with it. Perhaps because, as I said earlier, we did the same thing with ours. So far as I can tell, we never had that problem again. There may have been better ways to handle this but in the end, it's the parents right and responsibility to administer discipline, as they see fit. The end result, IMO, is what is important.

If this little 10 yr old girl learned to feel compassion for those less fortunate than her, and to be grateful for what she has, .. then that is a good lesson.

If all she learned was, .. "dont' get caught making fun of the poor kid because you have to wear clothes you don't like", then she didn't get the message.

Like you say, the end result is what is important.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;5087589 said:
As you see it, is that not so?

No, based on what the article said.

I never voiced my opinion on what people wear or where they shop.
 

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WV Cowboy;5087595 said:
If this little 10 yr old girl learned to feel compassion for those less fortunate than her, and to be grateful for what she has, .. then that is a good lesson.

If all she learned was, .. "dont' get caught making fun of the poor kid because you have to wear clothes you don't like", then she didn't get the message.

Like you say, the end result is what is important.


You can't teach people compassion. You can't make them feel compassion. All you can do is point out what it feels like to be on the other side of a none compassionate behavioral pattern. If at the very least, you can curb the behavior, then at least you have effected the situation that much. The reality is that people who have will never know what it feels like to not have until they have lived that life. Life is the best teacher and at some point, life has lessons for all of us. Certain behaviors, like it or not, are unacceptable in my house. I may not always be there to catch you but if/when I do, there will be a price exacted for it. That is how I was taught and that is how my children are taught and I hope that this is how they teach their children.

We work with the tools we have to work with.
 

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WV Cowboy;5087601 said:
No, based on what the article said.

I never voiced my opinion on what people wear or where they shop.

But you did voice your opinion on the methods used by the parent to teach her child. That is voicing your opinion, is it not?
 

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WV Cowboy;5087143 said:
So, let's see, ..in order to show her step-daughter that bullying the poor is wrong, .. she made her wear clothes from where the "unfortunate and poor" have to shop.

There's a good lesson. :rolleyes:

She is singling out, and labeling a class of people just like her daughter did.

Her punishment was to make her daughter wear clothes, that others have to wear because that is all they can afford.

That's like making her wear clown ears for making fun of someone with big ears.

No, she making her realize what it is to be made fun of... The clothes part is secondary and rather irrelevant to the point...
 

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ABQCOWBOY;5087614 said:
You can't teach people compassion. You can't make them feel compassion.

Yes you can, .. and I would venture to say that compassion is taught, and not something you are born with.

Humans are born self-centered and selfish.

Babies cry if they want food or milk or attention or whatever. Kids cry if they want a certain toy or whatever. We all think of ourselves first.

If they don't see compassion shown for others in their life, or if they are not taught compassion, they may not figure it our on their own.

Some will, but not all.
 

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WV Cowboy;5087143 said:
So, let's see, ..in order to show her step-daughter that bullying the poor is wrong, .. she made her wear clothes from where the "unfortunate and poor" have to shop.

I think you have a misconception of what/why Goodwill and 1-off thrift stores exist.

They're not solely meant for the "unfortunate and poor". They openly court every class of shopper, then use the $$$ made from the donated and refurbished items are used to help the "unfortunate and poor" in much broader ways.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;5087617 said:
But you did voice your opinion on the methods used by the parent to teach her child. That is voicing your opinion, is it not?

Yes, I did voice my opinion on the mother's choice, .. but nothing about what clothes people buy or where they buy them.
 

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khiladi;5087660 said:
No, she making her realize what it is to be made fun of... The clothes part is secondary and rather irrelevant to the point...

Not to the girl that only has those clothes to wear.
 

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DallasCowpoke;5087670 said:
I think you have a misconception of what/why Goodwill and 1-off thrift stores exist.

My friend, and my son's father-in-law, runs 6 or 7 Goodwill stores locally, .. I know exactly why they exist.

Once again, .. I never voiced my opinion on any store, what clothes people buy, or where they buy them.

I was only responding to the article, which says:

- Mom makes daughter wear horrible thrift store clothes

- Ally traveled to a local thrift store and spending just under $50 brought home outfits Kaylee would never wear.

- Last Thursday, before getting ready for school, Kaylee had a cheap outfit and some sneakers awaiting her.

So now we see what the Mom's opinion is of the clothes that the one little girl has to wear each day.

I don't like the message the Mom is sending, .. if I am the only one, that is ok too.
 

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WV Cowboy;5087668 said:
Yes you can, .. and I would venture to say that compassion is taught, and not something you are born with.

Humans are born self-centered and selfish.

Babies cry if they want food or milk or attention or whatever. Kids cry if they want a certain toy or whatever. We all think of ourselves first.

If they don't see compassion shown for others in their life, or if they are not taught compassion, they may not figure it our on their own.

Some will, but not all.

Nobody implied that you are born with or without compassion. What I said was you can not force someone to have compassion. There is no proof, what so ever, that this mother did not show compassion to this child. There is only proof that this child did not show compassion for another child who was not as fortunate.

I'm sorry, I don't agree with your take here.
 

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khiladi;5087701 said:
I don't get what your point is...

You referenced the "horrible thrift store clothes", the clothes that "Kaylee would never wear", the "cheap outfit" Kaylee had to wear, .. as "secondary and rather irrelevant to the point".

And my point was that, .. to the little girl that can only afford to wear those clothes, they are not 'secondary and rather irrelevant'.

So now, that little girl not only has the girl making fun of her clothes, she has the mother using clothes like hers as punishment.

With her actions, the mother is saying, "if my daughter doesn't act right, I will make her wear a 'cheap outfit' from one of those 'horrible thrift stores' "

Which must really make that little girl feel good. :rolleyes:
 

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ABQCOWBOY;5087714 said:
What I said was you can not force someone to have compassion.

You said "can not teach", but no matter.

But you are right, you can't force it to happen, only live the example in front of your kids.

There is no proof, what so ever, that this mother did not show compassion to this child.

Right, not initially anyway, .. but making her child dress like the other little girl as her punishment was kind of cold.

I'm sorry, I don't agree with your take here.

I know, .. that's ok. We're still good.
 

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WV Cowboy;5087718 said:
And my point was that, .. to the little girl that can only afford to wear those clothes, they are not 'secondary and rather irrelevant'.


First of all, the girl already knows she's poor and can't afford more expensive clothes. And second, your telling a person to go to a poor house to teach these poor people empathy for the poor who already know they are poor, but in another instance, your saying that it's wrong to make a bully wear clothes to understand how a poor person feels to empathize with that poor person who already know they are poor.

So yeah, I still really don't get your point.
 

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khiladi;5087749 said:
First of all, the girl already knows she's poor and can't afford more expensive clothes. And second, your telling a person to go to a poor house to teach these poor people empathy for the poor who already know they are poor, but in another instance, your saying that it's wrong to make a bully wear clothes to understand how a poor person feels to empathize with that poor person who already know they are poor.

So yeah, I still really don't get your point.

That paragraph makes us even now. :laugh2:
 
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