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pancakeman said:
I recognize that with the shortened field that the quarterback's job is a little different, but I think the same guy who is the best quarterback between the 20s is going to be the best quarterback in the red zone too. Whoever that guy is should be playing the whole time.
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And that's the rub. Things get more difficult in the red zone, but whoever excels there would also excel in the relatively easier area between the 20's. So by implementing that policy we'd be giving up opportunities to GET to the red zone, by having an inferior player attempt to lead the team there.

Whoever is best in the red zone is also most likely to get the team to the red zone. So he's the guy who should be playing.
 
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JDSmith said:
And that's the rub. Things get more difficult in the red zone, but whoever excels there would also excel in the relatively easier area between the 20's. So by implementing that policy we'd be giving up opportunities to GET to the red zone, by having an inferior player attempt to lead the team there.

Whoever is best in the red zone is also most likely to get the team to the red zone. So he's the guy who should be playing.
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This idea is not about who is better in situational football - that's clearly Romo, without question regardless of where the football is. This is about taking preventative measures to preserve Romo for when it counts as opposed to unnecessarily exposing him to risk that Dak can absorb.
 
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hipfake08 said:
Yes. You have that right.
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Well, to be honest, there really isn't much of a relationship between the two. The OP is about not dismissing ideas simply because it challenges status quo, or the way we have always done things. The lack of a passrush is about lack of overall talent on that side of the ball. The good news in regards to that issue as I suspect both with the return of DLaw and as players get more comfortable in their role, the pass rush should improve. Not by alot mind you, but appreciably.
 
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Vanilla2 said:
Are we the monkeys, the ladder or the banana?

Maybe we're the scientist
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older fans are the monkeys that got sprayed and younger fans are the new monkeys. I think. maybe. I wouldn't go for the bananas because they stop me up. I digress.
 
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jday said:
This idea is not about who is better in situational football - that's clearly Romo, without question regardless of where the football is. This is about taking preventative measures to preserve Romo for when it counts as opposed to unnecessarily exposing him to risk that Dak can absorb.
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I just don't think you can play that way. That's playing scared. I'd rather play Romo and if he gets hurt you put Dak in, trying to prevent injury to Romo by only playing him in the redzone would likely not prevent anything of the sort. The OL would be used to blocking for Dak, Romo would be coming in cold in the highest pressure situation, Dak would not be getting the experience of playing in the redzone... there are just too many things that make me think it's a bad idea.
 
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JDSmith said:
I just don't think you can play that way. That's playing scared. I'd rather play Romo and if he gets hurt you put Dak in, trying to prevent injury to Romo by only playing him in the redzone would likely not prevent anything of the sort. The OL would be used to blocking for Dak, Romo would be coming in cold in the highest pressure situation, Dak would not be getting the experience of playing in the redzone... there are just too many things that make me think it's a bad idea.
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Fair enough. Going into this I knew it wouldn't be a popular idea, but the conversation was entertaining... thanks for participating.
 
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I've given it a little additional thought while I eat my pizza...

Here's a scenario: We get to the 19 and put Tony in. His cadence and pre-snap reads are entirely different than Dak's. While he's making adjustments someone who's used to Dak's cadence jumps. 5 yard penalty. Now we're back to the 24, is it Dak time?

I really think that overall it would hurt the team because of the differences in cadence, pre-snap reads and adjustments, blocking for each guy, the way WR's adjust their routes, the difference in the way the guys throw, the fact that with our offense and the way it eats clock Romo could sit there for 10 minutes watching us get to the red zone before he has to come in and try to work some magic. Then there is Dak, would his mindset change knowing someone else would be coming in every time he got into the scoring zone? Does he take the shot at the end zone instead of throw the ball to the 5 because he knows he's going to get pulled if he completes the pass that puts us in first and goal? Your knee jerk reaction might be that guys are going to do what's best for the team, but I'm not sure how long that would hold up in real life.
 
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jday said:
I respect that...I truly do. But I would ask him one question:. When do you consider it? Before or after the sack that ends your season... potentially your career? That consideration needs to be a part of our gameplan.
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You can't play like that. You put your best team out there and adjust for injuries etc. You can be prudent but this plan is overly so IMO.
 
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