Moore: What Is Jerry Jones Succession Plan With Cowboys

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I just want to win man, i really do, it's been a long long time.

Super Bowl XXX was the last time i watched my team play for a championship, that is simply amazing, i would never.. ever.. ever.. thought that possible as i watched that game and season come to an end.

There is something wrong, we can dance around it all we want, but this team has the history and resources to be a consistent NFL power, it hasn't, and it has been incredibly disappointing.

I feel somewhat cheated that we seen so little playoff football for the last 20 years, we are living off the teams past glories in having any relevance at all.
 

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I just want to win man, i really do, it's been a long long time.

Super Bowl XXX was the last time i watched my team play for a championship, that is simply amazing, i would never.. ever.. ever.. thought that possible as i watched that game and season come to an end.

There is something wrong, we can dance around it all we want, but this team has the history and resources to be a consistent NFL power, it hasn't, and it has been incredibly disappointing.

I feel somewhat cheated that we seen so little playoff football for the last 20 years, we are living off the teams past glories in having any relevance at all.

Every team has the resources to be a power. Nothing is owed to Dallas because of their history. In fact most of the changes and rules have specifically targeted Dallas to balance out the league. Parity is alive and well, unfortunately we blew our good chances in the late 2000s.

It'll come around again.
 

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Yeah! Because everyone knows Jimmy Johnson hired himself!

The nicest way I can put this is if you are a manager, a lot of people would want to work for you since you don't demand they exhibit competence. You are ferociously defending a GM that over the past 18 years is .500, one playoff victory, among the fewest playoff appearances in the NFL - none in the NFC championship. Few of the members here would expect to last 18 months or even 18 weeks at their job with a comparable performance. Jerry Jones is lucky he found Jimmy Johnson or the discussion would be the last 25 years - not the last 18 years. And yet he could not leave well enough alone in 1994.

The members are smart enough I don't have to list the possible reasons you are fanatically defending Jerry Jones, but if I did none of them would be good and all border on being personal. I don't expect a perennial elite team, but the Cowboys should be contenders and they are not even that. Somehow you react to the suggestion Jerry delegate football matters to a proven GM outside his family as heresy. Al Davis was the closest thing to a football polymath - he might have seemed brilliant a few years - certainly not the last ten years of his life. But he was closer to pulling it off than Jerry.

Jimmy Johnson has never psyched out any team he coached against like Jerry Jones...he's spent the past 20 years and counting to prove himself a football mastermind, and with each passing season Jimmy is laughing more and more.
 

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The nicest way I can put this is if you are a manager, a lot of people would want to work for you since you don't demand they exhibit competence. You are ferociously defending a GM that over the past 18 years is .500, one playoff victory, among the fewest playoff appearances in the NFL - none in the NFC championship. Few of the members here would expect to last 18 months or even 18 weeks at their job with a comparable performance. Jerry Jones is lucky he found Jimmy Johnson or the discussion would be the last 25 years - not the last 18 years. And yet he could not leave well enough alone in 1994.

The members are smart enough I don't have to list the possible reasons you are fanatically defending Jerry Jones, but if I did none of them would be good and all border on being personal. I don't expect a perennial elite team, but the Cowboys should be contenders and they are not even that. Somehow you react to the suggestion Jerry delegate football matters to a proven GM outside his family as heresy. Al Davis was the closest thing to a football polymath - he might have seemed brilliant a few years - certainly not the last ten years of his life. But he was closer to pulling it off than Jerry.

Jimmy Johnson has never psyched out any team he coached against like Jerry Jones...he's spent the past 20 years and counting to prove himself a football mastermind, and with each passing season Jimmy is laughing more and more.

The nicest way I can put this is you completely missed the point.

Where did I defend Jerry? I responded to an implication that the team would've been better off over these last 25 years if he never bought the team, which is garbage when you consider the fact that we won 3 Super Bowls and Jerry's the one who hired Jimmy.

No Jerry? Then no Jimmy and probably no dynasty in the '90s.
 

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Succession plan? Please. Jerry Jones is not concerned about death and here's why:
  • He will soon behead a Scottish highlander and proclaim, "There can only be one!"
  • Jerry Jones is not his actual birth name. It's Tom Marvolo Riddle.
  • He has assembled a team consisting of a wizard, a ranger, an elf, a dwarf, and some hobbits to find a hidden ring of power called Precious.
  • The kids will carve out his heart and put it inside a treasure chest.
  • Once his host dies, the Goa'uld symbiote will inhabit one of his kids.
  • He will steal Logan's healing power after stockpiling billions of dollars in adamantum during the team's non-Super Bowl streak.
  • Upon death, his essense will automatically download into the previously unknown 13th Cylon model.
Yep, Jones will be around for a LONG time. He has a surefire failsafe if all of the above do not work. He hides a painting of himself in his attic. It has not done much for his looks though...
 

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The nicest way I can put this is you completely missed the point.

Where did I defend Jerry? I responded to an implication that the team would've been better off over these last 25 years if he never bought the team, which is garbage when you consider the fact that we won 3 Super Bowls and Jerry's the one who hired Jimmy.

No Jerry? Then no Jimmy and probably no dynasty in the '90s.

Where did you defend Jerry? See your words in bold. If he lived his life again and bought the Cowboys again would he run across a coach of Jimmy's caliber? Don't think so. Why? He has not picked a top notch coach since with one exception. When he was worried no town would help him build his new stadium, he hired Parcells, and did not quite throw him the keys....as such, it was Big Bill's least successful gig.

It's been a few months, but I started a thread if Jerry and Jimmy sorted it out, the Cowboys wouldn't have tanked at the end of the 90's, maybe won more SBs, just hired more elite coaches after Jimmy. Maybe add a couple of SBs after Jimmy. Who thinks Sean Peyton would have won a SB here like he did in New Orleans? ;) If Jerry made concessions to the Johnsons, Parcells, etc., he would have more trophies and be seen as the continuity. Then he would have the recognition he so desperately craves.
 

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Where did you defend Jerry? See your words in bold. If he lived his life again and bought the Cowboys again would he run across a coach of Jimmy's caliber? Don't think so. Why? He has not picked a top notch coach since with one exception. When he was worried no town would help him build his new stadium, he hired Parcells, and did not quite throw him the keys....as such, it was Big Bill's least successful gig.

It's been a few months, but I started a thread if Jerry and Jimmy sorted it out, the Cowboys wouldn't have tanked at the end of the 90's, maybe won more SBs, just hired more elite coaches after Jimmy. Maybe add a couple of SBs after Jimmy. Who thinks Sean Peyton would have won a SB here like he did in New Orleans? ;) If Jerry made concessions to the Johnsons, Parcells, etc., he would have more trophies and be seen as the continuity. Then he would have the recognition he so desperately craves.

You're confused.

Jerry hired Jimmy and 3 Super Bowl wins followed. If you decide to go back in time and prevent Jerry from buying the team, then Jimmy and those Super Bowls don't happen.

That's ALL I said. I didn't say Jerry didn't get lucky or that he could do it again. I just said that if you changed that course of history with Jerry buying the team, you can likely kiss those 3 rings goodbye.
 

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Where did you defend Jerry? See your words in bold. If he lived his life again and bought the Cowboys again would he run across a coach of Jimmy's caliber? Don't think so. Why? He has not picked a top notch coach since with one exception. When he was worried no town would help him build his new stadium, he hired Parcells, and did not quite throw him the keys....as such, it was Big Bill's least successful gig.

It's been a few months, but I started a thread if Jerry and Jimmy sorted it out, the Cowboys wouldn't have tanked at the end of the 90's, maybe won more SBs, just hired more elite coaches after Jimmy. Maybe add a couple of SBs after Jimmy. Who thinks Sean Peyton would have won a SB here like he did in New Orleans? ;) If Jerry made concessions to the Johnsons, Parcells, etc., he would have more trophies and be seen as the continuity. Then he would have the recognition he so desperately craves.
Alternate timelines make me dizzy. However, I am not getting the "run across" assumption. Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson were teammates on the University of Arkansas championship team. Who knows how strong it was, but a relationship between the two men existed well-before Johnson's hiring with the Cowboys. If alternate timelines are comtemplated, one would need to eliminate the joint history of both men before the Dallas era.
 

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You're confused.

Ha ha ha!!!!!!!

This has gone from discussion to somehow your honor is at stake - the very problem Jerry has.

And I even outline how Jerry could have worked things out, win more SBs and be the face of the Cowboys, yet you are still in attack mode.

Before I get down to your level, I better take a break before you beat me with experience.
 
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