More sour grapes from the Yanks...

[bbgun]

The best thing to happen to the Yankees might have been Teixeira sitting down.

No way. His glovework alone makes him invaluable, as it did last post-season when he didn't hit a lick.

 

[silverbear]

Baseball needs a salary cap / revenue sharing mix like the NFL to keep things competitive.

If that happened, the Yankmees would get real ordinary, real quick...

 

[silverbear]

I bet you can't do that for the rangers...

You're right, I can't, but only because I know very little about that team... I'm just rootin' for them now to stick it to the Yankmees...

Truth is, I've been an Orioles fan since 1965, and I CAN tell you that the majority of their team is home-grown... and many of the players that aren't were acquired via trade of home-grown players... the O's can't get many players to look at them in free agency these days, because they're a small-market team...

just saying the clueless fans of baseball say the yankees buy everyone. They have signed A-rod, Tex, CC, AJ. Those have been the biggest aquicisitons since 2004.

ROTFLMAO... who are you trying to fool with that crapola?? They've "just" signed A-rod, Texeira, CC and AJ?? And they don't buy players??

My rebuttal will be simple, a quote from the NY Times at the time of the Texeira signing:

The signing, which was confirmed by a person in baseball with knowledge of the matter, will not be official until Teixeira (pronounced tuh-SHARE-uh) has a physical. Once it becomes official, the Yankees will have the four players — Teixeira, Alex Rodriguez, Derek Jeter and the newly signed C. C. Sabathia — with the largest contracts in the sport, at an overall cost of slightly more than $800 million.

Meanwhile, the list of premiere players the Yankmees are reported to be looking into this offseason include:

Cliff Lee (rumors have it they're preparing a 200 million dollar offer for him)
Joe Mauer (only the best catcher in the game)
Albert Pujols (via trade in 2011, or free agency in 2012)
Jayson Werth
Carl Crawford
Prince Fielder
Adrian Gonzalez

That represents the cream of this offseason's free agent crop...


That, my homeristic friend, is the very definition of "buying players"... and of course, it's not a new phenomenon, I vividly remember when they stole Mike Mussina from the Orioles (when the O's were still competitive) by throwing a boatload of cash at him...

Really, your team has the highest payroll in baseball year in and year out, and most offseason they are bidders for the top free agents, and you're trying to convince us that they don't buy players, more than any other team in MLB??

Yeah, riiiiiiiggghhhttt... the New York Yankmees have for years been the best team money can buy... and that's why they "win championships", they buy the best players available...

 

[silverbear]

Until there is a CAP we play by the rules.

Yeah, but the fact you're conveniently ignoring is that the rules are stacked in your favor... because of that sweetheart cable deal the Yankmees have, they have more money to spend than any other team, enough money so that they can say "screw the luxury tax, we'll pay it and still make an enormous profit"...

If MLB had a hard cap like the NFL has, the Yankmees would be just another team...

 

[basstapp]

You're right, I can't, but only because I know very little about that team... I'm just rootin' for them now to stick it to the Yankmees...

Truth is, I've been an Orioles fan since 1965, and I CAN tell you that the majority of their team is home-grown... and many of the players that aren't were acquired via trade of home-grown players... the O's can't get many players to look at them in free agency these days, because they're a small-market team...



ROTFLMAO... who are you trying to fool with that crapola?? They've "just" signed A-rod, Texeira, CC and AJ?? And they don't buy players??

My rebuttal will be simple, a quote from the NY Times at the time of the Texeira signing:



Meanwhile, the list of premiere players the Yankmees are reported to be looking into this offseason include:

Cliff Lee (rumors have it they're preparing a 200 million dollar offer for him)
Joe Mauer (only the best catcher in the game)
Albert Pujols (via trade in 2011, or free agency in 2012)
Jayson Werth
Carl Crawford
Prince Fielder
Adrian Gonzalez

That represents the cream of this offseason's free agent crop...


That, my homeristic friend, is the very definition of "buying players"... and of course, it's not a new phenomenon, I vividly remember when they stole Mike Mussina from the Orioles (when the O's were still competitive) by throwing a boatload of cash at him...

Really, your team has the highest payroll in baseball year in and year out, and most offseason they are bidders for the top free agents, and you're trying to convince us that they don't buy players, more than any other team in MLB??

Yeah, riiiiiiiggghhhttt... the New York Yankmees have for years been the best team money can buy... and that's why they "win championships", they buy the best players available...

Here is what bugs me... The BS is spewing out of your mouth its not even funny. The yankees are not going to get those FA

Joe Mauer- Doesn't make sense we have the ***** Montero one of the best prospect in baseball in the minor leagues. Not to mention we have Romine who is already ready to step up

Albert Pujos- Doesn't make sense because we have Mark Tex

Cliff Lee- The Rangers are going to lock him up. No questions asked.

Jason Weryth/Carl Crawford- Why trade for those when Brett Gardner is Carl Crawford, but cheaper and Nick Swisher is servicable in RF and CF is locked down with Granderson.

Adrian Gonzales - That has never been a rumor. You are just talking about ever FA you can think of and putting them down.

So in 6 years the yankees have signed the Captian 2 prominant FA pitchers and one of the best 1st basemans in the game. That makes them buying players so be it, everyone else has the same shot as the yankees do they have the same cash flow and they actually receive money from the yankees through revenue sharing.

The Baltimore has the 4th lowest homegrown talent in baseball where the yankees have the 2nd highest. Its funny that you bring up that the Orioles trade homegrown talent for players.... So does every team in baseball. The yankees have a dominant farm system and in the last couple of years we have traded....

Austin Jackson+Phil Coke-Curtis Granderson.
Miguel Cairo-Nick Swisher
Melky Caberra-Javy Vaz
2 PTBNL- Kerry Wood


The only one that didn't really work out for us the Javy Trade. I am not sure why you hate the yankees for trying to win. Baltimore's owner has the same ability to throw money at players as the yankees, but he doesn't. I know your upset that TEX can to the YANKEES, but its time to get over it. Your team will never win in the division because we are all stacked. Its a sad story that your owner can develop talent at the minor league level and is not willing to cut into his own profits to go after some FA.

 

[Kangaroo]

Pretty sure that's one man's opinion, not the Yankees'. Seattle screwed up by trading Lee to a division rival, which almost never happens in baseball (esp the AL East).

it is Philly's fault for not keeping him and teaming him with Halladay that would be a 1-2 punch that could easily win a world series

 

[YosemiteSam]

basstapp,

You should stop now, you are starting to look extremely foolish.

The Yankees DO buy players left and right. Why in hell do you think their payroll is well over $200M?

Brett Gardner isn't even close to the same player Carl Crawford is. Crawford is a 4x AL stolen base champion, his career BA is about 30 points higher, and his OPS is over 60 points higher. Fielding they are about the same.

I do agree that the Yankees have no real need for Crawford though with Granderson in center though Crawford is a better player. While some people don't believe it to be true, the Yankees have a spending cap too.

The Yankees do have Montero, but of course Mauer always makes sense. He is one of the best players in baseball. I just don't think the Yankees can afford Mauer if they are going after Cliff. Especially with CC, Tex, Jeter, AJ, and A-Roid eating so much money already.

As for Cliff Lee, he might stay in Texas if Texas wins a World Series. Maybe even if they get passed the Yankees, though I doubt the latter. I'm sure the Yankees are going to throw the bank at Cliff if only to stop him from beating them like redheaded step children in the playoffs. The only way I see him even possibly staying in Texas is if they win a World Series.

 

[YosemiteSam]

it is Philly's fault for not keeping him and teaming him with Halladay that would be a 1-2 punch that could easily win a world series

Why exactly did Philly trade Lee anyhow? That was dumb.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Recovering? I'm quite sure he was coked up in the 8th inning of Game 1...

And like Galloway always says, the New York media is supposed to be so tough. And it may be when the teams are losing. But they also cheerlead the local teams like a high school girl... Just like this article.

 

[Stautner]

Pretty sure that's one man's opinion, not the Yankees'. Seattle screwed up by trading Lee to a division rival, which almost never happens in baseball (esp the AL East).

How did Seattle screw up? Lee was under a one year contract and would almost certainly have left Seattle after the season, Seattle didn't have a chance to win anything with Lee this year so it didn't really matter if Lee helped the Rangers, there is a very good chance Lee will not be with the Rangers next year, and they got some nice young prospects to boot, including Justin Smoak, who they coveted.

 

[YosemiteSam]

How did Seattle screw up? Lee was under a one year contract and would almost certainly have left Seattle after the season, Seattle didn't have a chance to win anything with Lee this year so it didn't really matter if Lee helped the Rangers, there is a very good chance Lee will not be with the Rangers next year, and they got some nice young prospects to boot, including Justin Smoak, who they coveted.

I'm betting that Seattle was betting that Lee wouldn't be a Ranger after this year. It was almost a done deal that Lee was going to the Yankees. If he remains with the Rangers, THEN you can say Seattle didn't make a great trade.

...unless Smoak and everything else they got pans out for Seattle the same way the Teixeira trade did for us. (specifically Elvus and Feliz) In that case, it is still a great trade even with Texas getting and keeping Lee. (The Mariners weren't going to be able to keep him)

 

[Stautner]

I'm betting that Seattle was betting that Lee wouldn't be a Ranger after this year. It was almost a done deal that Lee was going to the Yankees. If he remains with the Rangers, THEN you can say Seattle didn't make a great trade.

...unless Smoak and everything else they got pans out for Seattle the same way the Teixeira trade did for us. (specifically Elvus and Feliz) In that case, it is still a great trade even with Texas getting and keeping Lee. (The Mariners weren't going to be able to keep him)

I would bet you are right that Seattle expects Lee to change teams again this offseason, but even though they had to realize there was a chance he would stay in Texas, I imagine they felt that they had to gamble in order to get the best package of young players they could.

 

[basstapp]

basstapp,

You should stop now, you are starting to look extremely foolish.

The Yankees DO buy players left and right. Why in hell do you think their payroll is well over $200M?

Brett Gardner isn't even close to the same player Carl Crawford is. Crawford is a 4x AL stolen base champion, his career BA is about 30 points higher, and his OPS is over 60 points higher. Fielding they are about the same.

I do agree that the Yankees have no real need for Crawford though with Granderson in center though Crawford is a better player. While some people don't believe it to be true, the Yankees have a spending cap too.

The Yankees do have Montero, but of course Mauer always makes sense. He is one of the best players in baseball. I just don't think the Yankees can afford Mauer if they are going after Cliff. Especially with CC, Tex, Jeter, AJ, and A-Roid eating so much money already.

As for Cliff Lee, he might stay in Texas if Texas wins a World Series. Maybe even if they get passed the Yankees, though I doubt the latter. I'm sure the Yankees are going to throw the bank at Cliff if only to stop him from beating them like redheaded step children in the playoffs. The only way I see him even possibly staying in Texas is if they win a World Series.

I mean really buying championships is the most over used phrase ever. Sure they throw cash out at FA, but that is baseball so im am not looking foolish. The fools are the ones that make excuses for owners who dont care to win.

 

[BlueBandit]

Yeah, but the fact you're conveniently ignoring is that the rules are stacked in your favor... because of that sweetheart cable deal the Yankmees have, they have more money to spend than any other team, enough money so that they can say "screw the luxury tax, we'll pay it and still make an enormous profit"...

If MLB had a hard cap like the NFL has, the Yankmees would be just another team...

WRONG

The Yankees don't have a cable contract -THEY OWN THEIR OWN NETWORK...

Yet another example of George putting the MADE money back into the team - he copied what Man United did back in the late 90's with Man United TV and took it to the next level and gave the greatest fans and franchise in the world Yankees 24-7 - 365 a year.

 

[silverbear]

Here is what bugs me... The BS is spewing out of your mouth its not even funny.

Truth hurts, does it??

Baltimore's owner has the same ability to throw money at players as the yankees, but he doesn't.

No, he doesn't... the only team in MLB that can come close to the Yankmees spending power is the Red Sox, and for pretty much the same reason-- a sweetheart cable deal...

Enjoy your winter...

 

[BlueBandit]

Truth hurts, does it??



No, he doesn't... the only team in MLB that can come close to the Yankmees spending power is the Red Sox, and for pretty much the same reason-- a sweetheart cable deal...

Enjoy your winter...

Yes Angelos can but chooses not to.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I mean really buying championships is the most over used phrase ever. Sure they throw cash out at FA, but that is baseball so im am not looking foolish. The fools are the ones that make excuses for owners who dont care to win.

Apparently the $209M dollars the Yankees spent to win a World Series this year alone wasn't quite enough care on their part.

 

[silverbear]

WRONG

The Yankees don't have a cable contract -THEY OWN THEIR OWN NETWORK...

Quite right... I stand corrected...

However, I am correct that cable money is what gives the Yankmees their huge financial advantage, which in turn gives them a huge talent advantage on the field...

They're simply not playing on a level playing field, and as a result, will never get my respect...

Well, they'll never get my respect because their fans (not intending this personally here) are the rudest, most vulgar collection of anal orifices ever known to man... the only time I have ever come CLOSE to getting in a fight at a ballpark was one September Sunday afternoon in old Memorial Stadium in the final season for that stadium, a game I attended with my family (including a then-ten year old niece and an elderly aunt)... two rows behind us were two of the most foul-mouthed individuals I have ever seen, both of them wearing Yankmees gear...

Now, I can cuss, and do on appropriate occasions, but these jagoffs' vocabulary seemed to be made up of the F-bomb, and very little else... along about the 4th inning, I'd had enough, and told them to knock it off, pointed out the children and ladies in earshot, and told them that they had no right to act that way in a public place... they got mouthy back at me, and I was headed up to continue the debate face to face when security showed up to escort them out...

Just another reason to loathe the Yankmees...

 

[Royal Laegotti]

Quite right... I stand corrected...

However, I am correct that cable money is what gives the Yankmees their huge financial advantage, which in turn gives them a huge talent advantage on the field...

They're simply not playing on a level playing field, and as a result, will never get my respect...

Well, they'll never get my respect because their fans (not intending this personally here) are the rudest, most vulgar collection of anal orifices ever known to man... the only time I have ever come CLOSE to getting in a fight at a ballpark was one September Sunday afternoon in old Memorial Stadium in the final season for that stadium, a game I attended with my family (including a then-ten year old niece and an elderly aunt)... two rows behind us were two of the most foul-mouthed individuals I have ever seen, both of them wearing Yankmees gear...

Now, I can cuss, and do on appropriate occasions, but these jagoffs' vocabulary seemed to be made up of the F-bomb, and very little else... along about the 4th inning, I'd had enough, and told them to knock it off, pointed out the children and ladies in earshot, and told them that they had no right to act that way in a public place... they got mouthy back at me, and I was headed up to continue the debate face to face when security showed up to escort them out...

Just another reason to loathe the Yankmees...

I didn't think any fans were worse than Philly, but never been farther northeast than Arkansas so I don't have any first hand experience.

 

[BlueBandit]

Quite right... I stand corrected...

However, I am correct that cable money is what gives the Yankmees their huge financial advantage, which in turn gives them a huge talent advantage on the field...

They're simply not playing on a level playing field, and as a result, will never get my respect...

Well, they'll never get my respect because their fans (not intending this personally here) are the rudest, most vulgar collection of anal orifices ever known to man... the only time I have ever come CLOSE to getting in a fight at a ballpark was one September Sunday afternoon in old Memorial Stadium in the final season for that stadium, a game I attended with my family (including a then-ten year old niece and an elderly aunt)... two rows behind us were two of the most foul-mouthed individuals I have ever seen, both of them wearing Yankmees gear...

Now, I can cuss, and do on appropriate occasions, but these jagoffs' vocabulary seemed to be made up of the F-bomb, and very little else... along about the 4th inning, I'd had enough, and told them to knock it off, pointed out the children and ladies in earshot, and told them that they had no right to act that way in a public place... they got mouthy back at me, and I was headed up to continue the debate face to face when security showed up to escort them out...

Just another reason to loathe the Yankmees...

No offense they don't need or care about your respect, they only care about putting a winner on the field for their fans and they SPEND MASSIVE BUCKS TO DO IT AND they keep teams afloat.

The Yankees are the biggest brand in the world -some things just are the way they are, the Yankees spend money they don't pocket all of it, they built a Gorgeous Park for NYC to see them play in and they bring in players people wanna see.

I do very much respect the job Nolan has done though and the GM - great pickup in Vlad and great grab in Lee.