Mosely: Patriots Vs. 92' Cowboys

irvin88

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Patriots vs. '92 Cowboys

November 13, 2007 1:08 PM


ESPN's Sal Paolantonio wrote today that if the Patriots complete their perfect season, they will be the greatest Super Bowl team in history. He says no other team would be close, although I think Jimmy Johnson and his '92 Cowboys might have something to say about that.

Sal, a longtime Hashmarks supporter, compared the Patriots to the '89 49ers, the '85 Bears and '72 Dolphins. I've read so much lately about the Dolphins' weak schedule (.367 winning percentage) that I'm afraid Bill Belichick might hang 50 on them.

Sal indicated that the '85 Bears and '89 49ers weren't in the same class as the 2007 Patriots, but I'd sure love to see Mike Singletary (next Baylor head coach?) and that defense take a crack at Tom Brady.

I actually think the aforementioned '92 Cowboys team that beat the Bills, 52-17, in Super Bowl XXVII would be a better test for the Patriots than either the '85 Bears or the '89 49ers.

Michael Irvin compares favorably to Randy Moss, although Moss is a bigger-play threat. Emmitt Smith obviously wins the matchup with Laurence Maroney, and Tom Brady and Troy Aikman (left) are pretty close, with each quarterback leading his team to three Super Bowl titles. I do think Brady gets the nod because he won his Super Bowls without a couple of Hall of Fame talents at receiver and running back.

The Patriots have the edge in the passing game because Wes Welker and Donte Stallworth are better than Alvin Harper and Kelvin Martin.

The Cowboys have the better offensive line with left tackle Mark Tunei, left guard Nate Newton, center Mark Stepnoski and right tackle Erik Williams all being Pro Bowl-caliber players.

I think the Patriots have more talent on the defensive line, although the Cowboys started Tony Tolbert, Tony Casillas, Russell Maryland and Charles Haley. Richard Seymour and Vince Wilfork are virtually unstoppable for the Patriots.

New England also has better players at linebacker. Adalius Thomas is one of the best athletes in the league, but I think he's probably the fourth or fifth best player on his own defense right now. Ken Norton was a great linebacker for the Cowboys, but Robert Jones and Vinson Smith don't measure up.

The Cowboys had Issaic Holt and Kevin "Pup" Smith splitting time at one cornerback position and Larry Brown starting at the other. Former Baylor great Thomas Everett and James Washington started at the safety spots.

I think Asante Samuel and Ellis Hobbs probably win at cornerback, but it's a wash at safety, where Eugene Wilson and Rodney Harrison start for the Patriots.

I talked to Newton about this matchup last week, and he's convinced his team would find a way to win. I'll ask Aikman next time we talk since he's a little more objective.

On a neutral field, I think this is a pick'em. What do you guys think?
 

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The part about the defense I strongly disagree about. We had the #1 defense in the league in a non-watered down era. Leon lett and D. Woodson were backups.

He also failed to mention Jay Novacek ??:bang2:
 

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I think that the '07-'08 Pats would give the '92 Boys a game but in the end they just couldn't match up for a full sixty minutes. It'd be close for three quarters and then the 'Boys would pull away.
 

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Their defense would not stop our offense.

I still believe the Pats' weakest team right now is their defensive unit.

They really cannot stop the run.

Their offense is so potent that it doesn't matter though because the other team has to pass to play catchup.

This years Cowboys ran the ball effective and Addai had a pretty good game against them as well.
 

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Could the pats even beat the 92 Buffalo Bills ??:confused: I don't think they could so how can you compare them to the 92 Cowboys. They wouldn't even make it past the Bills in the AFC Championship game.
 

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92 Cowboys 38
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Their lack of running game would spell doom for them. Haley would pin his ears back and just destroy Brady. On the otherside we had Tolbert and Jeffcoat. We had Chad Hennings as a backup as well. We were so deep, so young, so fast, so hungry.
 

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I saw the write up earlier and just laughed that it was the cowboys who might give the patriots a game...it would not even be close. That Dallas team would destroy them and its not funny.

I would not pick the pats against the Cowboys, 49ers, or bills of that era.
 

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Plus the 92 team was fast and extremely physical on defense. Indy did the best job of slowing down their offense with their quickness and physical play and their defense doesnt have near the depth and isnt near the quality of the 92 boys.
 

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No way ...... Pats would be just a good team if they played against any of the early 90's teams

The early 90's 49'rs and Bills would beat them ..... and the Cowboys team would obliterate them.

Those teams were just to physical to match up with for 4 quarters.
 

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the argument is flawed from the beginning anytime you mention today's watered-down teams compared to back then.
 

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Wow, to even begin to say the Pats matchup with the 92 cowboys is beyond reason. The 92 cowboys were the best superbowl team in the decade. And no team post 2000 can ever compete with a "great" team from 85-98.

Simple as that
 

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CrazyCowboy;2231493 said:
I would go with the Cowboys hands down.

BTW--I am very OBJECTIVE.

Agreed. This would not even be particularly close -- we beat down the 49ers with Jerry Rice, John Taylor, Ricky Watters and Co. And I'm supposed to be afraid of Moss, Welker and Stallworth?

Give me a break. As Jim Kelly can attest, Brady would not have made it out of that game in one piece. Our offensive line would have manhandled the "unstoppable" Seymour and Wilfork. And Michael Irvin made a living out of beating the likes of Darryl Green and Deion Sanders (when the refs weren't cheating, that is).

This debate is an insult to my intelligence and the greatest team to ever play. The only team that could have given us a run for our money is that '89 49ers team, because of Cool Joe.
 

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:starspin does anyone believe that the real SuperBowl in 1993 was the NFC Championship at Candlestick?:starspin
 

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Wow, who dug up this fossil of a thread?

I guess everyone noticed that this was written last November, before the Pats failed in the Super Bowl. No way a team that doesn't even win it all can be compared to an all-time great team like the 92 Cowboys.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2231556 said:
Wow, who dug up this fossil of a thread?

I guess everyone noticed that this was written last November, before the Pats failed in the Super Bowl. No way a team that doesn't even win it all can be compared to an all-time great team like the 92 Cowboys.

Whoa i didn't even notice this was old thread. I guess i should have payed attention to the date lol.
 

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When this argument came up prior to last years SB in another place I pointed out that the 92 Cowboys offensive line was specifically assembled and designed to compete with the most dominant team in their division at the beginning of the JJ era, The Giants running Parcells 34, the same defense Bellichecks Pats run. The idea being that giant mauling lineman could continusly blow out the center of 3-4 and occupy the linebackers. I think Emmitt would have rushed for 180 yards.

The Cowboys high speed defense with 4 dominant pass rushers as down lineman on every snap is also a poor matchup for that Patriots who like to take advantage of blitzes and schemes. That is something the Giants proved in the Superbowl. (maybe not knowing when the other team was blitzing also hurt them?)
 

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Chocolate Lab;2231556 said:
Wow, who dug up this fossil of a thread?

I guess everyone noticed that this was written last November, before the Pats failed in the Super Bowl. No way a team that doesn't even win it all can be compared to an all-time great team like the 92 Cowboys.


agreed.

Alot of analysts who stuck their chests out and shot down proven champs must feek kind of silly.

I still think that was one of the most dominating teams I have ever seen, the pats that is. But in the end they are no different than the 98 vikings. And in the end the wr on the vikings didnt make plays just like the pats wr didnt make plays...or have the opportunity.

oh well. I am sure peter king will still declare them the greatest of all time or something.
 
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