Mosley: Cowboys should ignore Tony Romo's 'I'm healthy' pleas and draft a quarterback

[Idgit]

Denver made have had a great defense, but Osweiller put up some dam good numbers himself......that is why he is a very wealthy man right now.

I get that the backups we had were complete crap and so there was nothing to really coach up, but I do hold the coaching staff responsible for not recognizing such a huge hole in the roster.

If the head coach stands there in practice every day watching Weeden take first team reps with the offense, he doesn't get a pass when the crap hits the fan. If Garrett cant judge talent and has no idea if a QB is any good or not, that is on him just as much as its on the player. Weeden didn't just show up one day, he was here for 2 entire seasons and everybody from Garrett on down sung his praises.

Now when Weeden turns out to suck, Garrett cant say that he had nothing to work with...........maybe he should have realized it over the past 2 seasons.

I think this is one area where criticism of Garrett and the coaching staff is warranted. This is not a "Garrett sucks" post either, I am simply saying that as a former offensive coordinator and QB coach himself, that Garrett deservers criticism when there are tangible outcomes that he is directly responsible for and if 3 different backups combine for a 1-11 record, the head coach doesn't get a pass, he should be asked why he didn't realize the backups all sucked.

Weeden wasn't as bad as people want to remember, for starters. He played without Dez, and on defense while McClain and Hardy were out and Gregory hobbled. Then we lost Dunbar, and things spiraled on him. But the combination of the huge dropoff in QB play and a defense that could not take the ball away suddenly to save it's life was too much to overcome.

I agree that on the surface at least we were stupid not to upgrade QB2 after Orton left. We should have done so via the draft at the expense of another player on the roster, for sure. Failing that, though, it's not like there were a lot of significantly better QBs out there on the market and we just refused to bring them in. Everybody thought that way about Matt Cassel, and he comes in and coughs up the ball three times and single-handedly loses the Giants game for us. And we really don't know what they did or didn't do to try to bring in a QB, anyway. There were reports that we were interested in a couple of them. Shaun Hill being the one that I can remember, but he preferred to go back to MIN where he'd played before.

Now, this offseason we've gone and done the same thing and not gotten anything done, and there were players out there who are clear upgrades to Moore. They were expensive, but they were available. We should have grabbed one.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Weeden wasn't as bad as people want to remember, for starters. He played without Dez, and on defense while McClain and Hardy were out and Gregory hobbled. Then we lost Dunbar, and things spiraled on him. But the combination of the huge dropoff in QB play and a defense that could not take the ball away suddenly to save it's life was too much to overcome.

I agree that on the surface at least we were stupid not to upgrade QB2 after Orton left. We should have done so via the draft at the expense of another player on the roster, for sure. Failing that, though, it's not like there were a lot of significantly better QBs out there on the market and we just refused to bring them in. Everybody thought that way about Matt Cassel, and he comes in and coughs up the ball three times and single-handedly loses the Giants game for us. And we really don't know what they did or didn't do to try to bring in a QB, anyway. There were reports that we were interested in a couple of them. Shaun Hill being the one that I can remember, but he preferred to go back to MIN where he'd played before.

Now, this offseason we've gone and done the same thing and not gotten anything done, and there were players out there who are clear upgrades to Moore. They were expensive, but they were available. We should have grabbed one.

The fact that we didn't sign a single QB tells me that they are looking hard at QB at 4.

That is the only logical conclusion that can be made. For Jerry and Steven and Garrett to all say at the end of the season that QB was the biggest need and then do nothing but promote Moore and draft a developmental QB and call it a day is absurd

We have to be looking at a franchise level QB here, it's the only logical move considering we passed on everybody in free agency, even RG3 would have been an upgrade over noodle arm Moore

 

[Idgit]

The fact that we didn't sign a single QB tells me that they are looking hard at QB at 4.

That is the only logical conclusion that can be made. For Jerry and Steven and Garrett to all say at the end of the season that QB was the biggest need and then do nothing but promote Moore and draft a developmental QB and call it a day is absurd

We have to be looking at a franchise level QB here, it's the only logical move considering we passed on everybody in free agency, even RG3 would have been an upgrade over noodle arm Moore

I agree. They're doing a good job of throwing up a smoke screen, but they absolutely have to address QB, and there aren't a lot of places left to seriously do that. That #4 pick is the best ammunition we've got.

 

[gmoney112]

The fact that we didn't sign a single QB tells me that they are looking hard at QB at 4.

That is the only logical conclusion that can be made. For Jerry and Steven and Garrett to all say at the end of the season that QB was the biggest need and then do nothing but promote Moore and draft a developmental QB and call it a day is absurd

We have to be looking at a franchise level QB here, it's the only logical move considering we passed on everybody in free agency, even RG3 would have been an upgrade over noodle arm Moore

I'm sure they're looking at a QB hard. Definitely not soft.

I just hope that the backup plan all along, if they decide to go in a different direction, isn't "Well, if we lose Tony for the season, we're probably not going to the dance. If we're not going to the dance, might as well have a bad backup so we can ensure a better pick".

 

[Arkyvarminter]

We have the 4th pick. Don't waste it on something that can be had in later rounds but they will...........

 

[Frozen700]

Somebody with sense finally

 

[Bill Wooten]

Somebody with sense finally

Thank you.

 

[Cowboy06]

Sounds like a good idea to me -- Romo might be healthy at present but who's to say what could happen whenever he takes a hit?

If it's not his shoulder that gives out, it could easily be his back or some other part of his anatomy. It's better to be safe than sorry.

It would likely be ASAP to start mentoring his eventual replacement. It may easily take up to two years or more to do it properly.

I endorse this message and if you ever run for President...I'd vote for you.

 

[LocimusPrime]

OK, let's see.

I'm not going to include Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariota or Blake Bortles because I don't think we've had time to see if their careers will be successful ... but please feel free to include them if you want.

That starts us with:

2012: Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III

2011: Cam Newton

2010: Sam Bradford

2009: Matthew Stafford

2008: Matt Ryan

2007: JaMarcus Russell

2006: Vince Young

2005: Alex Smith

2004: Eli Manning, Phillip Rivers

2003: Carson Palmer

2002: David Carr, Joey Harrington

2001: Michael Vick

I want to stop there because this gives us the same size sample as the previous group. The first problem we encounter is how do you measure success? To me, Vick, Bradford and Griffin were not successful first-round QBs, even though they have had some degree of success at times in their careers. The main reason I don't consider them successes is because they weren't a long-term solution to their teams' QB problems.

That gives me eight QBs who have had successful careers and seven who have not. Now, if you classify Vick, Bradford and Griffin as successes, the rate obviously goes up.

Possibly it goes up as well if you include more years into the equation (but maybe not because I just looked at the previous couple of years when there were none taken in the first five picks in 2000 and three — Tim Couch, Donovan McNabb and Akili Smith — in 1999.)

After researching this, it makes me feel like we might be better off taking one at 34 instead of 4 ... and I'm a little surprised at that. I expected the success rate of the top five to be much higher.

Man those qbs are pretty sorry. I don't even like Cam and wouldn't have him as my franchise qb either.
Good lord it's hard finding A qb. I personally think all of this years qbs will be avg nfl journeymen at best.

 

[KJJ]

Man those qbs are pretty sorry. I don't even like Cam and wouldn't have him as my franchise qb either.
Good lord it's hard finding A qb. I personally think all of this years qbs will be avg nfl journeymen at best.

You're going way overboard Luck, Cam and Ryan are far from sorry even Stafford is a pretty good QB but the problem in todays game is too much is put on the shoulders of QBs. The NFL has become such a passing league that too many games come down to the performance of the QB. They're under so much pressure to be saviors it leads to some real flops at the position. Luck took a real beating due to his OL last season and everything was put on Cam to win the SB for the Panthers and he folded.

 

[DandyDon1722]

You're going way overboard Luck, Cam and Ryan are far from sorry even Stafford is a pretty good QB but the problem in todays game is too much is put on the shoulders of QBs. The NFL has become such a passing league that too many games come down to the performance of the QB. They're under so much pressure to be saviors it leads to some real flops at the position. Luck took a real beating due to his OL last season and everything was put on Cam to win the SB for the Panthers and he folded.

Agree.

Notice how Eli couldn't carry the Giants with a horrible defense yet Alex Smith can get a pretty well rounded team into the playoffs. You have to be pretty good on both sides of the ball to have a shot.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Dallas will get a QB or two, stop worrying.

 

[Bullflop]

I endorse this message and if you ever run for President...I'd vote for you.

Thanks, much appreciated, but that'd be a responsibility I'd be in a world of trouble to fulfill. I'd rather simply be a member of CBZ in good standing -- lol.

 

[Cowboy06]

Thanks, much appreciated, but that'd be a responsibility I'd be in a world of trouble to fulfill. I'd rather simply be a member of CBZ in good standing -- lol.

That sucks I wanted to be on the ticket...at least a cabinet position...and access to the red button when the Cowboys don't draft well....