Most Overrated QBs (Aikman #4 )

[THUMPER]

What an absolute, freakin MORON! Namath is the only one on that list who could possibly be considered "overrated".

 

[AtlCB]

Can we put Roethlisburger on the list as well? I always see him listed as one of the top 5 QB's in the NFL (3rd on one list that I saw).

 

[bbgun]

I know he took his team to three straight Super Bowls, but tempted to throw Bob Griese under the bus

SB 6
12/23 134 0 1

SB 7
8/11 88 1 1

SB 8
6/7 73 0 0

 

[poke]

i gotta tell you if i was a quarterback you could put me on a list with those 5 names and i would be proud to be there no matter what the list was titled.

too many people confuse being a quarterback with being a passer, there are intangibles that are equally if not more important than passing stats and being a part of a team is also equally important.

i also agree with Zaxor that troy did seem to have to have things his way to be at his best but then that could apply to me and maybe most of us.

 

[bobtheflob]

Before I even opened this thread, I knew it would be from "Cold Hard Football Facts," easily the worst excuse for a stat-related football Web site.

I've never heard of them, but I got that feeling pretty quickly. They say "cold hard football facts" 13 times in that one article.

 

[BALKIS]

I'm surprised tony romo isn't on the list.

 

[CF74]

I stopped right there

I guess they'll let anybody write colums nowadays:bang2:

 

[jobberone]

Aikman, an "ordinary passer ....." :laugh2:

You can say his numbers were ordinary, but his accuracy was off the charts.

Norv Turner used to say that having Emmitt and that running game around really cut into Troy's numbers. If Troy would have been in a situation where the team needed to pass the ball a lot, his numbers would have been astronomical.

The person who wrote this has crap for brains.

You saved me the time to type this.

Just goes to prove that stats without capable interpretation is crap.

 

[joseephuss]

Aikman's QB rating goes up to 89.0 in 16 playoff games.

In the 7 biggest games of his career, the 4 NFC Championship games and 3 Superbowls he posted a stellar 106.1 QB rating.

The guys game rose to the occasion. If he was posting an 81 rating like he did for his career in the regular during the playoffs, then I would say he was a product of the system. Instead he got better as the competition got better. He made the big throws, stood tall in the pocket and came through when it really mattered.

 

[CowboyMark]

Today's game is a pass first game. In Aikman's day it wasn't like that. Teams don't have the rules they have now. Teams didn't throw it as much back then. I mean jesus christ Brady throws it 50 times a game. Times change. The game is diffrent. I think they need to take that to consideration before making a list like this.

 

[sonnyboy]

Aikman's QB rating goes up to 89.0 in 16 playoff games.

In the 7 biggest games of his career, the 4 NFC Championship games and 3 Superbowls he posted a stellar 106.1 QB rating.

The guys game rose to the occasion. If he was posting an 81 rating like he did for his career in the regular during the playoffs, then I would say he was a product of the system. Instead he got better as the competition got better. He made the big throws, stood tall in the pocket and came through when it really mattered.

Good post.

Aikman not the easiest player to evaluate.

His career numbers are skewed by some very poor years. He started on a terrible team and posted QB ratings of 55.7 and 66.6 in 89 and 90. And finished his career with a 64.3 rating on a terrible 2000 team while dealing with a ton of physical problems that ultimately sent him into retirement.

He averaged about an 89 rating during the 9 years sandwiched between those three.

I've always argued that the QB rating system over-weights TD passes and completely ignores team points. A system that focused more on team points with extra credit for actual TD passes would give a more clear picture on a QB's true performance.

There's no doubt in my mind, that a system like this would boost Aikman's rating relative to his peers.

But Aikman's greatness really transcends numbers. His accuracy, quick release and power was second to none. His ability to quickly launch lasers off his ear was often impossible to stop.

That's why his numbers improved with the competition. So much of what he did was indefensible, as long as his team wasn't over-matched. That was his key. The talent level had to be close. Aikman didn't create and couldn't succeed in an over-matched situation.

Aikman was as bad/average/good and most importantly as great as the talent he had to work with.
And that's not a knock. He was better than most any other QB's could be with his best teams.

 

[DFWJC]

Aikman, an "ordinary passer ....." :laugh2:

You can say his numbers were ordinary, but his accuracy was off the charts.

Norv Turner used to say that having Emmitt and that running game around really cut into Troy's numbers. If Troy would have been in a situation where the team needed to pass the ball a lot, his numbers would have been astronomical.

The person who wrote this has crap for brains.

Few QBs in history were as accurate as Aikman and other than Irvin he really did not have great WRs.

 

[Cochese]

No mention of the Green Bay drama queen?

Hey look, Corey Webster is open!

 

[ZeroClub]

One other thing, what's with the "all time numbers" angle?

At the beginning of his career, Aikman's supporting cast stunk. He started as a rookie with a very poor team. It's not like it was his fault. I guess I don't agree with the logic of counting every snap of his career equally.

 

[sonnyboy]

I'm surprised tony romo isn't on the list.

Since they pretty much just crunch numbers, I'd guess they'd have mostly good things to say.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Are you serious, wow!? The Cowboys was a run first team, make no mistake about that, Emmitt isn't the all time leading rusher for anything... Dallas pounding teams so Aikman didn't have the opportunity to chuck it down field as much as the Marino's of the world.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Putting Aikman on that list is like putting a elevator in an outhouse - it just doesn't make sense.

I knew before I opened the thread Namath would be #1.

 

[Ganja]

Aikman, an "ordinary passer ....." :laugh2:

You can say his numbers were ordinary, but his accuracy was off the charts.

Norv Turner used to say that having Emmitt and that running game around really cut into Troy's numbers. If Troy would have been in a situation where the team needed to pass the ball a lot, his numbers would have been astronomical.

The person who wrote this has crap for brains.

And therein lies the truth. This writer is a douchebag.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

how can a guy who was the #1 overall pick, be a system guy? I guess he wasn't talented...

isnt a system supposed to mask disabilities?? yeah, Troy Aikman couldn't run for crap, but he was the prototypical, pocket passer, he certainly didn't lack the talent to deserve the "system guy" appellation

and most people forget that we all but abandoned the passing game in the 2nd half of games, because we were usually ahead, and had a back by the name of Emmitt Smith

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I agree with that.

He wasn't an improvisor like Staubach or Elway, or even Romo. He is a perfectionist off the field and he liked things just as orderly on the field. Making something out of nothing wasn't his strength.

But there are free-lancing quarterbacks who couldn't do the things Troy could do either. I think Tom Landry would have loved Troy's high standards, his demeanor, his accuracy and his ability to execute.

I just think he was a great talent who played big in the biggest games.

you could say his perfectionism raised the play of his teammates, cuz they aren't getting anything from him if they're constantly messing up