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I hope you guys are right. As of right now, I have a hard time imagining 4 out of 5 members of a selection committee comprised of media members would vote him in based off of a single ring, but I could be wrong. By way of example, ESPN's still talking about Tony's throw to Tanner being off-target yesterday.

I think one ring gets him the credentials to qualify. I just think very few players get in with full support. Most are lucky to clear the 80% threshold. All it takes is a couple unreasonable media members who don't like Dallas to begin with to tube the nomination if he's not a clear-cut shoe-in. There's still conversation in the media as to whether or not he's even a top-10 QB in the league among his contemporaries, for crying out loud.

This. Tony won't even get a sniff the HOF.
 

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True but then as these type of milestones are reached and presented it can start changing the minds of some.

Yeah. It's obviously a subjective guess at this point, and he'll have several years here to pile on accomplishments. I just think, if you were to poll media right now on whether or not Tony belongs in the HoF based on his performance to-date, you'd have less that 20% agree that he does. A Superbowl is obviously going to shift that. Will it shift it all the way to 80%? It's still going to be pretty easy to point to that SEA game and that NY game in 2007 and make the (bad) case that Tony kept the team from advancing, possibly to a Superbowl in 2007, at least. You need all but 9 of the 46 member committee to vote for you, if my head-math is right. Figure 4-5 of those guys aren't going to vote for any single (marginal) candidate, anyway. That just gives you 4-5 guys from the media outside of Dallas getting swayed by the choker argument to keep him out. Some of those guys are in NY, surely. It's really not to high a hurdle to clear, really.
 

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Yeah. It's obviously a subjective guess at this point, and he'll have several years here to pile on accomplishments. I just think, if you were to poll media right now on whether or not Tony belongs in the HoF based on his performance to-date, you'd have less that 20% agree that he does. A Superbowl is obviously going to shift that. Will it shift it all the way to 80%? It's still going to be pretty easy to point to that SEA game and that NY game in 2007 and make the (bad) case that Tony kept the team from advancing, possibly to a Superbowl in 2007, at least. You need all but 9 of the 46 member committee to vote for you, if my head-math is right. Figure 4-5 of those guys aren't going to vote for any single (marginal) candidate, anyway. That just gives you 4-5 guys from the media outside of Dallas getting swayed by the choker argument to keep him out. Some of those guys are in NY, surely. It's really not to high a hurdle to clear, really.

I don't disagree as things stand today but as I said as Romo passes up other mile stone and this team is able to win a championship then I think minds will change.

Right now though only thing that is important is how Romo and this team does now. If they do that then everything else will take care of itself.
 

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This. Tony won't even get a sniff the HOF.

If Steve Young can get into the HOF with one ring, then so can Tony Romo. Romo is the better QB and I don't think it's even close. Young's numbers/accomplishments are nowhere near the strata of Kurt Warner, Dan Marino and Peyton Manning. 100 games in or for his entire career, comparison is even embarrassing to make.
 

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If Romo gets a SB ring I think he goes into the HOF.

If can't manage more than another playoff win or two his career, his stats won't get him in.

If he ends up with no more playoff wins BUT ends up the top 3, 5 And top 10 QB of all time in a lot of categories. He is HOFer.
 

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If he ends up with no more playoff wins BUT ends up the top 3, 5 And top 10 QB of all time in a lot of categories. He is HOFer.

1 playoff win in what would be a 10+ year career? He wouldn't even sniff the HOF.

Did you know Jimmy Smith had more receptions, yards, and TDs than Michael Irvin? Michael Irvin is in the HOF (rightly so). Jimmy Smith has no chance. Why Irvin over Jimmy Smith -- success in the playoffs. Superbowl victories.

Romo career stats will be surpassed by lots of guys because he started late in his career AND the continued liberalization of the passing rules. Guys like Matthew Stafford are putting up 5000 yard seasons year even though they are slightly above average.

Romo will have to have success in the playoffs to make the HOF -- you are kidding yourself if you think he makes it with just 1 playoff win.
 

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1 playoff win in what would be a 10+ year career? He wouldn't even sniff the HOF.

Did you know Jimmy Smith had more receptions, yards, and TDs than Michael Irvin? Michael Irvin is in the HOF (rightly so). Jimmy Smith has no chance. Why Irvin over Jimmy Smith -- success in the playoffs. Superbowl victories.

Romo career stats will be surpassed by lots of guys because he started late in his career AND the continued liberalization of the passing rules. Guys like Matthew Stafford are putting up 5000 yard seasons year even though they are slightly above average.

Romo will have to have success in the playoffs to make the HOF -- you are kidding yourself if you think he makes it with just 1 playoff win.


Not the same. Irvin's stats aren't close to tops in any category.

So, there are no players in HOF that didn't do well in playoffs? I think you are kidding yourself.

If Romo ends up in the company of only a handful of QBs all time. He is in HOF.
 

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Not the same. Irvin's stats aren't close to tops in any category.

So, there are no players in HOF that didn't do well in playoffs? I think you are kidding yourself.

If Romo ends up in the company of only a handful of QBs all time. He is in HOF.

Only QB I can think of in recent times who made the HoF with a sketchy playoff record was Warren Moon who played in 10 playoff games and only won 3. IMHO he received special consideration on HOF evaluation because he was effectively blocked from playing quarterback in the NFL when he came out of Washington as a black QB and the NFL clubs told him he couldn't play QB for them... all he did was go on and win 5 CFL championships in 6 years in the CFL before jumping to the NFL.

Beyond Warren Moon, the other HOF QBs inducted over the past 20 years have been:
  • Troy Aikman: Tons of playoff wins and 3 superbowls
  • Steve Young: Tons of playoff wins and a Superbowl
  • Jim Kelly: Tons of playoff wins and 4 Superbowl appearaces
  • John Elway: Tons of playoff wins, tons of Superbowl losses, and 2 Superbowl wins
  • Dan Marino: Lot of playoff wins (8 of them), a Superbowl loss
That's the list of NFL QB HOF inductees inducted over the past 20 years. All of them won Superbowls OR at least got to a Superbowl (and lost) and won a bunch of playoff games (Kelly:9, Marino:8).

In summary, if you want to be the NFL Hall-of-Fame as a NFL QB, it is absolutely MANDATORY to have success in the post-season -- at least based on what we've seen the modern passing era of the last 20 years.

If Romo finished in the Top 10 of QB rating, TDs, yards, etc and only finishes with one playoff win, then he deserves to be the hall-of-the-very-good and the Cowboys ring-of-honor -- nothing more.
 
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