Murray Had 1 Good Year

[ConstantReboot]

If Murray was such as one hit wonder and he wasn't that good so was the rest of the entire team. It was until Murray came along to show that we can actually run the ball and win doing it. It took us from a mediocre team from 3 years of being 8-8. To a team now that is poised to make a run at the Superbowl. Sure some folks here want to give credit to the oline and to the coaches for bringing in a run oriented offense. But someone had to run the ball. Its not the runningback's fault that he had to tote 40% of the offense. If anything, Garrett should have focused running the ball long ago. Maybe then we wouldn't have been mired by mediocrity all along.

Lets give credit to where its due. Without Murray - and having us rely on Romo to carry the team once again last year. I don't think we would have been sniffing the superbowl or even the playoffs. We would still be stuck in mediocre and folks here would be wondering why we didn't run the ball more.

 

[iceberg]

If Murray was such as one hit wonder and he wasn't that good so was the rest of the entire team. It was until Murray came along to show that we can actually run the ball and win doing it. It took us from a mediocre team from 3 years of being 8-8. To a team now that is poised to make a run at the Superbowl. Sure some folks here want to give credit to the oline and to the coaches for bringing in a run oriented offense. But someone had to run the ball. Its not the runningback's fault that he had to tote 40% of the offense. If anything, Garrett should have focused running the ball long ago. Maybe then we wouldn't have been mired by mediocrity all along.

Lets give credit to where its due. Without Murray - and having us rely on Romo to carry the team once again last year. I don't think we would have been sniffing the superbowl or even the playoffs. We would still be stuck in mediocre and folks here would be wondering why we didn't run the ball more.

i don't get it. i honestly don't. i feel like someone is trying to school me all the time with their opinions and forcing a singular view as the one *WE* should be cognizant

i don't understand why it has to be murray OR the OL. i don't give a flying monkey fart in a hurricane about the individual success near as much as team success. for those touting murrays success, great. would you be happier with NOT having a RB win the rushing title but we *do* win the superbowl? i'm after the team success and as a team things came together and for that reason alone i hated seeing murray go.

i repeat for all those who can only argue one side or the other. I HATED SEEING MURRAY GO.

this unfounded need and desire to give credit to the OL *or* murray and ONLY ONE OR THE OTHER is 100% asanine and misses the point of teamwork all together. whatever garrett was doing was, to me, NOT to run the ball more or less but he was going with what worked. to continue the garrett blame game is also not giving him credit for having the team we have today.

i mean, did jones build this current team, or did garrett?

or did the entire freaking staff of the cowboys come together and work together as a team to give us the success we've been wanting for so damn long?

this need to give individual blame or credit is simply ********. they benefited from each other and that's all there is to it. anything else about who, what, when, where, how or why is just speculation and at this point, highly annoying.

now all we need is a few more threads on this and we should be set.

 

[DFWJC]

Early on he fumbled like Murray did last year. After his 3rd or 4th year he avg'd about 1 a season.

Thanks.
I was going to say, McFadden doesn't have a fumbling problem remotely like Murray's.
There's some that are worse though

 

[Doomsday101]

Thanks.
I was going to say, McFadden doesn't have a fumbling problem remotely like Murray's.
There's some that are worse though

Before last season Murray had no fumbling issue.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

He's had pretty much the same average his entire career.

I don't think you understand what I wrote.

 

[DFWJC]

Before last season Murray had no fumbling issue.

His fumble rate has been fairly high the last three seasons.

2014--1 per 62 per carry
2013--1 per 72
2012--1 per 54

I should factor in catches too but this at least shows the consistency

Someone like McFadden is more like 1 per 100 or so
But Randal's fumble rate was terrible, though on a low # of carries

 

[Nightman]

Demarco Murray had 5700 yards and 29 TDs with Dallas

The OP is right, that is one hechuva a good year

 

[50cent]

A two-time pro bowler having only 1 good year?! Seems that 1st bid was reputation. Sounds logical. This is a joke right. He broke out his rookie year and made a name for himself. The talent was evident and his peers knew he was more than average. What they didn't know is of could stay healthy. He's gone and that's fine, but the shade is getting ridiculous.

 

[Nightman]

Demarco set the Franchise rushing record for a season-1845

Demarco set the Franchise single game rushing record-253

Demarco set the NFL record for consecutive 100 yard games-8

Demarco started 37 of the last 39 DAL games at RB

 

[Doomsday101]

His fumble rate has been fairly high the last three seasons.

2014--1 per 62 per carry
2013--1 per 72
2012--1 per 54

I should factor in catches too but this at least shows the consistency

Someone like McFadden is more like 1 per 100 or so
But Randal's fumble rate was terrible, though on a low # of carries

I factored in all touches of the ball and did the same with AP and if Murray is a fumbler then AP is the king of fumblers. lol

 

[mattjames2010]

Demarco set the Franchise rushing record for a season-1845

Demarco set the Franchise single game rushing record-253

Demarco set the NFL record for consecutive 100 yard games-8

Demarco started 37 of the last 39 DAL games at RB

Yeah, but we have Williams. He's started 5 games in his career. Can we start discussing Super Bowl?

 

[Nightman]

Yeah, but we have Williams. He's started 5 games in his career. Can we start discussing Super Bowl?

Don't forget the other 3

McRandliamsbar

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I hope your right. I'm pulling for these RB to come in here and produce big for this offense. I know many are not thrilled with McFadden and while I have my doubts about him I do think he has the ability to make big plays. Randle I expect to see him get a lot more than the 3 carry avg per game he got last season. Dunbar I think will be fighting hard for a job this season and Williams I'm just not sold on him as others are. Based on Dallas signing 2 FA FB I have a feeling we may see a lot more 2 back sets this season than we have in the past

McFadden's 2010 and 2011 seasons were really quite good considering he had no O-Line or a QB. Of course, he's 3 years older, but he's still only 27 years old.

My main concern is that playing in Oakland may ruin his ability to run the play. With no O-Line, you start to freelance in order to not get tackled. I'm also worried about him staying healthy, but again...I would have the same worries for Murray and they are paying McFadden substantially less than what we would have paid Murray.

People also forget that there is a long history of teams with talent on their roster that are perennial losers as an organization and the smart teams pick those guys up for cheap and end up making them into good players. The Cardinals were a classic example of that team. They stunk, but they had talent on the team and teams would routinely pick up their players and turn them into Pro Bowlers. I think the Raiders fit that mold. Remember, we were told that McClain was a complete bust that couldn't cover to save his life. I think that was anything but the case last year for McClain. He wasn't Urlacher in coverage, but he was pretty good and more than serviceable. Also had 2 picks.





YR

 

[iceberg]

Demarco set the Franchise rushing record for a season-1845

Demarco set the Franchise single game rushing record-253

Demarco set the NFL record for consecutive 100 yard games-8

Demarco started 37 of the last 39 DAL games at RB

wow. what the living hell is jones doing spending money on that OL again??? THE FOOL!!! WE JUST NEEDED DEMARCO!!!!

some people just don't get it and i've had enough.

 

[Doomsday101]

McFadden's 2010 and 2011 seasons were really quite good considering he had no O-Line or a QB. Of course, he's 3 years older, but he's still only 27 years old.

My main concern is that playing in Oakland may ruin his ability to run the play. With no O-Line, you start to freelance in order to not get tackled. I'm also worried about him staying healthy, but again...I would have the same worries for Murray and they are paying McFadden substantially less than what we would have paid Murray.

People also forget that there is a long history of teams with talent on their roster that are perennial losers as an organization and the smart teams pick those guys up for cheap and end up making them into good players. The Cardinals were a classic example of that team. They stunk, but they had talent on the team and teams would routinely pick up their players and turn them into Pro Bowlers. I think the Raiders fit that mold. Remember, we were told that McClain was a complete bust that couldn't cover to save his life. I think that was anything but the case last year for McClain. He wasn't Urlacher in coverage, but he was pretty good and more than serviceable. Also had 2 picks.





YR

My hope for McFadden is based on much of what you just said. I do like the fact that McFadden is good out of the backfield and is a good blocker in blitz pickups, now if he is able to exploit the holes and make the plays in the running game then I think our chances of success become much greater. As for letting Murray go I again agree, I understood the reasons behind not paying out 8 mill a season from a business stand point but it does leave a major question mark within the run game.

I hope the best of all of our RB but right now this is like taking out a blind date instead of a date with your steady girl. lol

 

[jrumann59]

Before last season Murray had no fumbling issue.

which is disconcerting. Usually RB get better with fumbling not worse. Which leads more to believe he was running for money.

 

[joseephuss]

Could you game the numbers any more than you just did? 4 years ago Charles had a bad injury and missed 14 games. You include his 2 game sample with only 12 carries and that only serves to bring Murray and Charles in line with each other. Other than that season Charles has played in 45 of 48 games.
If we look at the last 3 seasons....

Game the numbers? I just went with Murray's full career, which is only 4 seasons long and compared Charles over that same period. Perhaps I should have chosen Charles' first 4 years in the league as the comparison. Charles rushed for 3027 yards and totaled 4073 yards from scrimmage during his first 4 seasons. Was he a bad back at that time? Those numbers are worse than Murray's. It is okay for Charles to miss time due to injury, but it isn't okay for Murray to get injured.

 

[Doomsday101]

which is disconcerting. Usually RB get better with fumbling not worse. Which leads more to believe he was running for money.

2013 AP fumbled 5 time yet that was not the highest fumble total he also had a season with 9 fumbles and 7 fumbles. As far as running for the money? I think Murray ran hard and played hard anytime he was in the lineup. Injuries are something players have little control over but when Murray was given the opportunities he did a good job in Dallas.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Game the numbers? I just went with Murray's full career, which is only 4 seasons long and compared Charles over that same period. Perhaps I should have chosen Charles' first 4 years in the league as the comparison. Charles rushed for 3027 yards and totaled 4073 yards from scrimmage during his first 4 seasons. Was he a bad back at that time? Those numbers are worse than Murray's. It is okay for Charles to miss time due to injury, but it isn't okay for Murray to get injured.

Charles has proven to be durable. He had one bad injury that ruined a season. Comparing his durability to Murray's is a joke.

 

[CyberB0b]

I don't think you understand what I wrote.

I don't think you understand it, to be honest. You are saying he was put in desirable situations early in his career, but his workload increased by a large margin the last two years with 0 dropoff in his YPC.