Murray Had 1 Good Year

[jrumann59]

2013 AP fumbled 5 time yet that was not the highest fumble total he also had a season with 9 fumbles and 7 fumbles. As far as running for the money? I think Murray ran hard and played hard anytime he was in the lineup. Injuries are something players have little control over but when Murray was given the opportunities he did a good job in Dallas.

Not denying that. He always gave effort, but he was very sloppy with the ball especially last year. His fumbles were not the type where he was stood up and gets hit right on the ball most of his were of the type like in the GB game swipes, no RB should be carrying the ball like a loaf of bread his 4th year in.

 

[Doomsday101]

Not denying that. He always gave effort, but he was very sloppy with the ball especially last year. His fumbles were not the type where he was stood up and gets hit right on the ball most of his were of the type like in the GB game swipes, no RB should be carrying the ball like a loaf of bread his 4th year in.

Early on he did he had 5 fumbles in the 1st 8 games and none over the last 8 games of the regular season and the playoff game vs Det. I hated the fumble vs GB yet Dallas was still leading the game and next series Murray was running very hard as he scored a TD which including a 29 yard run that put us down on the 1 and took in from there. I don't excuse the fumble vs GB but that was a 3rd qrt play it was not the game and he did come right back and produced a big TD.

Now if people want to talk about his fumbles fine but I will point out AD has had more in his career even in 2013 where he also had 5

 

[jrumann59]

Early on he did he had 5 fumbles in the 1st 8 games and none over the last 8 games of the regular season and the playoff game vs Det. I hated the fumble vs GB yet Dallas was still leading the game and next series Murray was running very hard as he scored a TD which including a 29 yard run that put us down on the 1 and took in from there. I don't excuse the fumble vs GB but that was a 3rd qrt play it was not the game and he did come right back and produced a big TD.

Now if people want to talk about his fumbles fine but I will point out AD has had more in his career even in 2013 where he also had 5

He had 5 recorded fumbles and he had 3-4 others where he was fortunate to be near the sideline and ball went out of bounds. He was so easily stripped of the ball. The last 8 games shows it was a concentration thing because he also had to contend with a broken hand the last 4 and he had to be more aware of ball security until GB.

 

[Doomsday101]

He had 5 recorded fumbles and he had 3-4 others where he was fortunate to be near the sideline and ball went out of bounds. He was so easily stripped of the ball. The last 8 games shows it was a concentration thing because he also had to contend with a broken hand the last 4 and he had to be more aware of ball security until GB.

Hey if we are going to count fumbles that went out of bounds then you can add a lot more for a lot of the players including AD. I would also add some of the fumbles had nothing to do with carrying it loosely he had a fumble vs Tenn where they stood him up as he continue to fight for yardage and stripped him. I don't excuse fumbles no more than I would excuse an int but for much of Murray career fumbling has not been an issue

 

[jrumann59]

Hey if we are going to count fumbles that went out of bounds then you can add a lot more for a lot of the players including AD. I would also add some of the fumbles had nothing to do with carrying it loosely he had a fumble vs Tenn where they stood him up as he continue to fight for yardage and stripped him. I don't excuse fumbles no more than I would excuse an int but for much of Murray career fumbling has not been an issue

This is not about AD, I never brought up AD. I am sure now that he got paid he doesn't have to worry about it.

 

[Doomsday101]

This is not about AD, I never brought up AD. I am sure now that he got paid he doesn't have to worry about it.

No it not about AD I only mention him because it is the one guy people want. I think Murray like any player in the NFL want to be paid however I think Murray wants to win and play good ball just as well.

 

[mattjames2010]

No it not about AD I only mention him because it is the one guy people want. I think Murray like any player in the NFL want to be paid however I think Murray wants to win and play good ball just as well.

Yeah, no one should be questioning if Murray wants to win or not. There were times in 2013 when he went absolutely crazy on the sidelines because they refused to give him the ball.

He's certainly a competitor. You can be a competitor and also want to get paid, just look at Dez.

 

[JoeKing]

Remaining butt hurt over Murray being gone is not a good way to show your fanhood. Just as many didn't see the Cowboys being vastly improved one year ago, many don't see the improvement being sustained with Murray gone. To those people I would say it's a process, have faith in it. In Will McClay I trust.

 

[Doomsday101]

Yeah, no one should be questioning if Murray wants to win or not. There were times in 2013 when he went absolutely crazy on the sidelines because they refused to give him the ball.

He's certainly a competitor. You can be a competitor and also want to get paid, just look at Dez.

I agree. I think it is cheap shot saying he was doing it for the money? hell all players are doing it for the money just as you point out Dez is doing it for the money, but there is also no doubt both want to win and both want to be highly productive players.

 

[Doomsday101]

Remaining butt hurt over Murray being gone is not a good way to show your fanhood. Just as many didn't see the Cowboys being vastly improved one year ago, many don't see the improvement being sustained with Murray gone. To those people I would say it's a process, have faith in it. In Will McClay I trust.

Most of us acknowledge the business aspect of not resigning Murray at the price tag Philly offered, does not mean from a game stand point he will not be missed. You can question a lot of things my fanhood should not be one of them. I been hard core Cowboys since 1965 and I am fully behind this team now but that does not mean I can't be honest with myself of give my views of a situation.

 

[JoeKing]

Most of us acknowledge the business aspect of not resigning Murray at the price tag Philly offered, does not mean from a game stand point he will not be missed. You can question a lot of things my fanhood should not be one of them. I been hard core Cowboys since 1965 and I am fully behind this team now but that does not mean I can't be honest with myself of give my views of a situation.

Hit dog will holler. Thanks for self identifying your butt hurtness.

 

[Doomsday101]

Hit dog will holler. Thanks for self identifying your butt hurtness.

Not butt hurt at all. Would I rather have Murray in the lineup this year as opposed to him being gone? You bet. That is not how things worked out so not I put my hope into the guys who are here

 

[joseephuss]

Charles has proven to be durable. He had one bad injury that ruined a season. Comparing his durability to Murray's is a joke.

Not a joke. Murray averages 20.8 touches per game in his career. Charles averages 15.9 touches per game. Murray has averaged over 15 rushing attempts per game for a season 3 times during his 4 year career. Charles has averaged over 15 rushing attempts per game for a season 2 times during his 7 year career.

Charles had proven a lot less after his first 4 years in the league than Murray has. If people had said Charles was average at that time I would have said they were wrong. Same with Murray now.

 

[JoeKing]

Not butt hurt at all. Would I rather have Murray in the lineup this year as opposed to him being gone? You bet. That is not how things worked out so not I put my hope into the guys who are here

If you were putting your faith in the guys who are here, you wouldn't be still harping about who isn't. No, you are definitely butt hurt about it. The first step to getting past those feelings is admitting them but you are in denial.

 

[Doomsday101]

If you were putting your faith in the guys who are here, you wouldn't be still harping about who isn't. No, you are definitely butt hurt about it. The first step to getting past those feelings is admitting them but you are in denial.

I hope they do good, how much faith? 2 guys who have busted thus far, 1 guy in Randle that can't seem to get his life in order and 1 guy in Dunbar who is more of a 3rd down back. Again would I rather have Murray of course. I hate we lost him but we did. As I said I'm about as hardcore of a Cowboy fans as there is, I don't care what the score is I watch them until the clock his 00:00 and have since 1965. I have missed 1 game in that time. Being a fan you bet but I will not be a homer and just say oh even though these guys have never done it they will be great. You can play that if you want but I am capable of thinking for myself. I hope these RB are working hard and ready to go they have much to prove.

 

[JoeKing]

I hope they do good, how much faith? 2 guys who have busted thus far, 1 guy in Randle that can't seem to get his life in order and 1 guy in Dunbar who is more of a 3rd down back. Again would I rather have Murray of course. I hate we lost him but we did. As I said I'm about as hardcore of a Cowboy fans as there is, I don't care what the score is I watch them until the clock his 00:00 and have since 1965. I have missed 1 game in that time. Being a fan you bet but I will not be a homer and just say oh even though these guys have never done it they will be great. You can play that if you want but I am capable of thinking for myself. I hope these RB are working hard and ready to go they have much to prove.

I can relate to how you feel. I have experienced very similar feelings. I too have been a hardcore Cowboys fan since my earliest memories(SB VI).
I think what you are feeling now is what we called in the military, "failure to adapt". Murray not returning was a harsh blow but it's done. Right or wrong, we have to move on from there and hope for the best. Letting go is never easy to do. Now we are left with a RB corps that we just don't know can fill the void left by Murray's absence. Facing that unknown takes a certain degree of courage but we can do it. What other choice do we have? Complaining does no good, and it doesn't even make you feel better after you doing it long enough.

 

[Doomsday101]

I can relate to how you feel. I have experienced very similar feelings. I too have been a hardcore Cowboys fan since my earliest memories(SB VI).
What you are feeling now is what we called in the military, "failure to adapt". Murray not returning was a harsh blow but it's done. Right or wrong, we have to move on from there and hope for the best. Letting go is never easy to do. Now we are left with a RB corps that we just don't know can fill the void left by Murray's absence. Facing that unknown takes a certain degree of courage but we can do it. What other choice do we have? Complaining does no good, and it doesn't even make you feel better after you doing it long enough.

Sorry I know what I am feeling and failure to adapt is not one of them. Right now there are reports of the Cowboys looking to possibly move Leary to get a RB a team would not be doing that if they were 100 percent sold on what they currently have. Does not make Jerry any less of a Cowboys fan or failure to adapt. It could very well mean that there are some concerns about the running game.
You are right we enter the season with an unknown at a position that proved to be a strength yet now it is a question mark now. So of course any sane person would have a concern when you go from strength to unknown.
I had said before Murray left for Philly that I would offer him between 6 to 7 mill a year, as we both know Philly offered more and I would have made the same choice the Cowboys did which was to move on.
As for the complaint part? I don't feel standing up for a player who did as much for the Cowboys as Murray did is complaining. I'm not one of those guys who will start belittling players the day they leave and act as if they were not that important.

 

[JoeKing]

Sorry I know what I am feeling and failure to adapt is not one of them. Right now there are reports of the Cowboys looking to possibly move Leary to get a RB a team would not be doing that if they were 100 percent sold on what they currently have. Does not make Jerry any less of a Cowboys fan or failure to adapt. It could very well mean that there are some concerns about the running game.
You are right we enter the season with an unknown at a position that proved to be a strength yet now it is a question mark now. So of course any sane person would have a concern when you go from strength to unknown.
I had said before Murray left for Philly that I would offer him between 6 to 7 mill a year, as we both know Philly offered more and I would have made the same choice the Cowboys did which was to move on.
As for the complaint part? I don't feel standing up for a player who did as much for the Cowboys as Murray did is complaining. I'm not one of those guys who will start belittling players the day they leave and act as if they were not that important.

No failure to adapt? Okay, but I do recommend you take a trip to the drug store for some butt hurt cream. I kid so please do not be offended.

I see all that you have just mentioned and in response I just have to have faith that they will get it right in the end. Like I said, it's a process.

Murray is an Eagle now and he will either soar or fall from the heights from which he came, it remains to be seen.

 

[Bleu Star]

Remaining butt hurt over Murray being gone is not a good way to show your fanhood. Just as many didn't see the Cowboys being vastly improved one year ago, many don't see the improvement being sustained with Murray gone. To those people I would say it's a process, have faith in it. In Will McClay I trust.

On the flip side, dismissing it so blatantly just because we blinked and lost while brushing him aside as someone that never meant much to this team all the while propping up our current pool of clowns is also not a good way to show your fan hood for the game.

I too have faith in Willie McCay and believe he will engineer a trade that alleviates my current concerns.

 

[Beast_from_East]

I'm not underrating him. But just like Parcels said, "you are what your record says you are." Right now Murray's record says he had 1 good year.

McFadden's record looks like a JV walk on compared to Murray's.........................7 years in the league/1 yr over a 1000 and has the 2nd lowest YPC in the league.

Murray also is a career 4.7 with his worst season being 4.1.............McFadden would have wet dreams thinking about putting up those numbers.

Like you said "you are what your record says you are" .