Murray = Julius?

[iceberg]

This has become comical. The OP merely opened a topic of converstion. There was no definitive conclusion presented, there was no attempt to lead other posters down a path, and there was no suggestion that there was a sufficient sample size of Murray's career to reach a definitive conclusion. There was only a recognition that Murray got off to a hot start in his career just as Julius did, and people were left to offer their own opinions as to why they believe Murray will or wont follow a similar career path.

so - his initial post was:

1: flash in the pan
2: average back
3: star

well i'm glad he pulled in things i'd never considered any player could be and compared him to a bust so not to tilt thought anywhere.

 

[Smith22]

With Miles out, teams have been placing more defenders near the LOS and challenging our passing attack. Getting a healthy Miles Austin back should help, but we really need a small, shifty WR with excellent speed to open up the passing attack a bit more.

I forgot to add, we need to upgrade the OL in the middle, in particular, center.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

:laugh2: @ this thread....

 

[goshan]

this is a common shield for what i'd view as "low level thinking" or more reacting at this point, not thinking.

reaction - demarco = julius
thinking - comparing the initial careers of demarco vs. julius, the OL, the defenses faced, prep time and the like...

you went door 1 dude. don't try to say it belongs in the realm of deep discussion cause it's self-admitted drama.

Fair enough dude. I get your point But regardless of whether I approached it in a 'deep thinking' manner or to create drama, its a perfectly valid discussion regardless of whether you think I led with drama or setup the discussion in a biased way. Those saying their isn't enough of a pattern to have the conversation are wrong - and I can tell you are smart enough to know that.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Three weeks ago, most named Murray the best Cowboy RB since Emmitt. A few warned about early anointing him like what happened with Julius Jones, but most said they have seen enough.

The past 60 carries, Murray has averaged around 3.2 YPC. And he looked a little soft to me against the Cards - not finishing runs with the physicality that has been core to his success. Over that same period, Felix has averaged over 5 YPC.

Which is it?

1. Murray is a flash in the pan like Julius. In a few years he won't even be on the field, at least not a starter.
2. Murray is a good, solid around back that got off to a hot start. He is a 1200 yards per year guy and a good all around back. But not an elite runner.
3. Murray is a great RB. He will get going again - especially if we get a lead blocker like Tony F back on the field. He will be a top 5-7 back in the NFL for several years, and likely average 4.5+ YPC.

goes to prove that no RB can run without and OL
goes to prove that Felix is great in limited duty and special change of pace back roll as his average went up when he went back to his old role.
if Felix was the starter, he would average less than 3.

 

[EPL0c0]

Relax, even Emmitt Smith didn't have 100+ every game.

 

[KJJ]

The fans here are hilarious a bunch of knee jerkers who live in the moment. After one great game you had fans comparing Murray to Emmitt and several other great backs in NFL history and now after his first real off game you have one comparing him to Julius. :laugh2:

 

[JBond]

i can apply logic just fine.

i don't homer up.

how "DEEP" do you have to go to say "jones had a big game then nothing, murray did it too!!! OH MY GOSH NOES!!!!! (panic panic panic)

the fact you think this is "complex thought" means i just need to walk away from the cliff claven mentality and leave you to reach to the outter depths of intelligence.

Feeling a little fiesty today?

 

[iceberg]

Feeling a little fiesty today?

i don't think the simple comparison of jones to murray just based off their first 8 games is relevant and *certainly* not a deep level of comparison.

this place just seems like an eyore these days - no matter what happens it's all doom and gloom.

 

[Stautner]

so - his initial post was:

1: flash in the pan
2: average back
3: star

well i'm glad he pulled in things i'd never considered any player could be and compared him to a bust so not to tilt thought anywhere.

Again, I don't see that he compared him to a bust - the only point of comparision I saw was Murray's stellar start to Julius' stellar start. He left it to each poster to offer their own opinion as to where Murray's career would go from there.

 

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Three weeks ago, most named Murray the best Cowboy RB since Emmitt. A few warned about early anointing him like what happened with Julius Jones, but most said they have seen enough.

The past 60 carries, Murray has averaged around 3.2 YPC. And he looked a little soft to me against the Cards - not finishing runs with the physicality that has been core to his success. Over that same period, Felix has averaged over 5 YPC.

Which is it?

1. Murray is a flash in the pan like Julius. In a few years he won't even be on the field, at least not a starter.
2. Murray is a good, solid around back that got off to a hot start. He is a 1200 yards per year guy and a good all around back. But not an elite runner.
3. Murray is a great RB. He will get going again - especially if we get a lead blocker like Tony F back on the field. He will be a top 5-7 back in the NFL for several years, and likely average 4.5+ YPC.

Hopefully #3. He was gonna cool off at some point. He was just playing at an unbelievably high level. It was unrealistic to expect him to continue that. Once Fiametta comes back we'll see the Murray we saw against St. Louis, Buffalo, and Philly.

 

[JBond]

i don't think the simple comparison of jones to murray just based off their first 8 games is relevant and *certainly* not a deep level of comparison.

this place just seems like an eyore these days - no matter what happens it's all doom and gloom.

I understand. Just giving you a little crap. Many are all or nothing. The Cowboys have a few issues, but its not like they are the Chiefs. I believe they can address most of the issues, besides the problems with the o-line, this season.

 

[iceberg]

Again, I don't see that he compared him to a bust - the only point of comparision I saw was Murray's stellar start to Julius' stellar start. He left it to each poster to offer their own opinion as to where Murray's career would go from there.

nono - was never saying you did. was saying far from it actually.

 

[ETex]

Three weeks ago, most named Murray the best Cowboy RB since Emmitt. A few warned about early anointing him like what happened with Julius Jones, but most said they have seen enough.

The past 60 carries, Murray has averaged around 3.2 YPC. And he looked a little soft to me against the Cards - not finishing runs with the physicality that has been core to his success. Over that same period, Felix has averaged over 5 YPC.

Which is it?

1. Murray is a flash in the pan like Julius. In a few years he won't even be on the field, at least not a starter.
2. Murray is a good, solid around back that got off to a hot start. He is a 1200 yards per year guy and a good all around back. But not an elite runner.
3. Murray is a great RB. He will get going again - especially if we get a lead blocker like Tony F back on the field. He will be a top 5-7 back in the NFL for several years, and likely average 4.5+ YPC.

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