Must win the next 4

Staubacher

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One plus for wildcard is our contenders are going to be playing each other a lot and racking up losses. The NFC West and the Lions and Packers.
 

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4 of six is and I think 11 will get us in the wildcard. But I think we need more than an wildcard.

Based on the fact that we seem to be a better road team than home team right now, the wild-card route might be OK.

At the moment, though, I just want to make it to the dance.
 

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Based on the fact that we seem to be a better road team than home team right now, the wild-card route might be OK.

At the moment, though, I just want to make it to the dance.

I admit I will feel better once they put the mark next to the name in the standings to show we have clinch a spot, hopefully we will have a spot before week 17 and be in position to take the East in the end
 

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I admit I will feel better once they put the mark next to the name in the standings to show we have clinch a spot, hopefully we will have a spot before week 17 and be in position to take the East in the end

That would be nice for a change instead of it coming down to Week 17 just to make it.
 

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I wouldn't chalk up a loss to the Packers or Seahawks by any stretch. Green Bay is good but their defense can give up a lot of points and the Eagles can post up a ton of them. Not to mention that Green Bay's O-line is suspect against good pass rushing teams (which Philly happens to be very good at). Seattle can't pass the ball, as it is, to save their lives and Philly can get to the QB as well as any team in the league, right now. I hate Philly as much as anyone but they are a seriously legitimate contender to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl this year. I'll guarantee you that neither Green Bay or Seattle are chalking this one up as a win.

That's awesome.

They shouldn't be.

Since they actually have to play them.

I, however, do not have to play them and therefor I am saying they're going to lose. That's just how I feel. I think Greenbay and Seattle will both beat them.
 

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I don't know that all 4 are must wins, but they better win 3 if they want to make the playoffs and then handle the Skins in week 17.

I think people that post "Must Win" just want to draw attention to their post.

Must Win!
I'm calling it now!
I'd cut blank player!
 

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Philly being the better team remains to be seen. The Cowboys and Garrett have also done a fantastic job too. And you might as well say we can't win, you've already submitted that we probably won't sweep them and that they are the better team. Based off of what? Their running game isn't better, their oline definitely isn't better, their defense isn't better either. And there is nothing sillier than saying 'well I think it's more likely Philly sweeps us than we sweep them'. And you are basing this off of what? You are dismissing us before those two games are even played so you are damn right I'm going to say we shouldn't even play the game when you are spouting off nonsense like that..

I am sorry.

We are awesome. Probably gonna win out.

That better?
 

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Remember 3 games in 11 days coming off the bye with 2 of them being road games. I will be happy if they they go 2-1. I think the Giants or the Bears will be really up to play the Cowboys.

Yup, but don't forget -- on the other side of that "3 games in 11 days" is another mini-bye...a full ten days to prepare for the second game with Philly. The Bears weren't up to play Green Bay, their most hated rival. While I suppose it's possible they get more up to play "America's Team," I would have to seriously question their agenda at that point. If they rolled over against Green Bay the way they did, they're ready to roll over, period.
 

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Yup, but don't forget -- on the other side of that "3 games in 11 days" is another mini-bye...a full ten days to prepare for the second game with Philly. The Bears weren't up to play Green Bay, their most hated rival. While I suppose it's possible they get more up to play "America's Team," I would have to seriously question their agenda at that point. If they rolled over against Green Bay the way they did, they're ready to roll over, period.

Oh yeah fully aware of the mini bye. That does not change 3 games in 11 days on the front side.
 

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I am sorry.

We are awesome. Probably gonna win out.

That better?

No smart*** it isn't. You don't make any sense. You say the Eagles are better when there is no basis for it and you say it's more likely that the Eagles beat the Cowboys twice than the other way around when there is no basis. Neither team has played each other head to head so instead of coming up with some ******** out of your *** why don't you actually wait and see what happens when the two teams play twice. That's what's better.
 

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I think its more likely we get swept by Philly than us sweeping Philly.

The game on Thanksgiving is a must win IMO. Can't lose that and then expect to win in Philly IMO.

Why would you say that? I don't think we will get swept by the Eagles.
 

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Oh yeah fully aware of the mini bye. That does not change 3 games in 11 days on the front side.

Nor does it change the fact that Philly has to play 3 games in 11 days. And we get to play them at home during that 3 game stretch. And they have 4 of their last 7 on the road. And they finish with two road games against divisional rivals. Any way you slice it, you cannot blame the schedule if we lose the division to Philly. There is absolutely no merit to it.
 

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Yup, but don't forget -- on the other side of that "3 games in 11 days" is another mini-bye...a full ten days to prepare for the second game with Philly. The Bears weren't up to play Green Bay, their most hated rival. While I suppose it's possible they get more up to play "America's Team," I would have to seriously question their agenda at that point. If they rolled over against Green Bay the way they did, they're ready to roll over, period.

It is also unfortunate that they play the late game on Sunday night in New York and then play 4 days later on Thanksgiving. The Giants game should have been a 1:00 game. That's hard travel on a team. Those guys wont get home to their family until 5-6 am EST the next day probably.
 

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It is also unfortunate that they play the late game on Sunday night in New York and then play 4 days later on Thanksgiving. The Giants game should have been a 1:00 game. That's hard travel on a team. Those guys wont get home to their family until 5-6 am EST the next day probably.

Yippee. The Eagles get a few extra hours. Give me a break. We are getting a full extra week of rest right now. They haven't seen a break since week 6. How anyone can look at our remaining schedule and not think the scheduling gods have smiled on us is beyond me. We couldn't ask for a more perfect scenario.
 

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I am sorry.

We are awesome. Probably gonna win out.

That better?

You made a good post Sydla and laid it out really well but you broke the first rule for some folks....no perceived negativity, no matter how slight. Your line that it's more probable that they sweep us than we sweep them is way out line. Too negative, no matter how minor. The Eagles are tough and they've won two games with their back-up QB who has looked decent, not great, but decent and made some nice plays. They're the defending NFC East champs and they're the team to beat until proven otherwise. Chip Kelly has them playing hard and their D can play. And I can't understand why so many folks are quick to criticize when we historically haven't played well in December the last few years to close out the season with the playoffs on the line.

If our D shows up, as well as our running game, we'll be in good shape. It'll be a good game and we'll see where we stand. But I like our OL and hope we just maul them all game.
 

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Let's work through this.

Philly will probably beat TEN, WAS and NYG. That gives them 10 wins and 4 wins in the division. That means we cannot win the division-record tiebreaker against them. That leaves us the following paths to the division title:
1. Sweep Philly and at least match their record.
2. Split with Philly and win out otherwise, getting us to 12 wins. This requires them to lose to GB and SEA.
3. Have my premise be wrong such that Philly drops one or more of the games I'm giving them (TEN, WAS, NYG). Lots of paths available if that happens.

So yeah, to win the division, we're pretty close to every game being a must win.
 

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Next 4 games are all must wins in my book. If we want to win the NFC East that's what has to happen. Looking at the Eagles schedule they have @GB which I can see them losing but then it's pretty easy. They get Seattle at home. I think to win this division we have to sweep the games with the Eagles.

If Dallas can split with Eagles...I think they are fortunate.
 

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Let's work through this.

Philly will probably beat TEN, WAS and NYG. That gives them 10 wins and 4 wins in the division. That means we cannot win the division-record tiebreaker against them. That leaves us the following paths to the division title:
1. Sweep Philly and at least match their record.
2. Split with Philly and win out otherwise, getting us to 12 wins. This requires them to lose to GB and SEA.
3. Have my premise be wrong such that Philly drops one or more of the games I'm giving them (TEN, WAS, NYG). Lots of paths available if that happens.

So yeah, to win the division, we're pretty close to every game being a must win.

I disagree with your very first assumption. The Eagles have to finish the year on the road against two divisional rivals -- it's not going to be nearly as easy to win those games as you seemingly think. Heck, if we finished on the road against the Commanders and Giants, people here would be freaking out. Divisional games in opponents' stadiums are tough, especially this time of year. These are the very last games of the year. I think both the Giants and Commanders bring everything but the kitchen sink against the Eagles.
 

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I disagree with your very first assumption. The Eagles have to finish the year on the road against two divisional rivals -- it's not going to be nearly as easy to win those games as you seemingly think. Heck, if we finished on the road against the Commanders and Giants, people here would be freaking out. Divisional games in opponents' stadiums are tough, especially this time of year. These are the very last games of the year. I think both the Giants and Commanders bring everything but the kitchen sink against the Eagles.
That's fine. That's scenario 3 and opens up lots of options. I still think they probably win those games, but they could certainly drop one or both. We can't count on it, though.
 
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