Mustang vs. Camaro

[CowboyDan]

Mustang is just a body style on top of a Ford Falcon. And a Ford Falcon was a performance car made so that they were affordable for working men. Just ask Robert McNamara....

Mustangs really were fancied up with snazzy looks, and better materials. While it may have been attractive for gals, it was more made for making girls....if ya get my drift.

Are you calling Steve McQueen a girl??

 

[Route 66]

You took the competing completely out of context. I wasnt talking about speed numbers, I was clearly referring to your comment about competing in production.

Only I am 6' 3", weight 210lbs and fit more then comfortably in my Camaro, which also has a sun roof on it.

Your biggest misconception is you think to me it is all about drag and racing numbers. Like I said I took into account ALL factors, looks, handling, speed, the fun factor, price/value, factory options etc. Most adults look at the whole picture before buying a $40k car. Its fine with me that you disagree that the Challenger is over priced, but your opinion doesnt make it a fact any more then mine does.

This is the way I look at it. Youre happy with your purchase and I am with mine. Isn't that is what is most important here?

Enjoy your wheels!

 

[CowboyDan]

This is the way I look at it. Youre happy with your purchase and I am with mine. Isn't that is what is most important here?

Enjoy your wheels!

Of course not! Winning the argument is. C'mon man, that's not a very "car guy"-like answer. :

The real shame is that we don't have the Trans Am Racing Series where these 3 companies could go head-to-head on the weekends to prove it to the public:

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This is why I love YouTube!

 

[viman96]

Mustang. Hard to beat the sound of a Ford V8.

 

[CowboyDan]

Mustang. Hard to beat the sound of a Ford V8.

Yep, and in my opinion Ford's quality is superior to Mopar and GM.

 

[DIAF]

Yep, and in my opinion Ford's quality is superior to Mopar and GM.

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/04/25/ford-mustang-boss-302-fails-motor-trend-brake-test-here/

Part of M/T's testing gauntlet includes a look at braking distance. Road Test Editor Scott Mortara ran the Ford up to 70 miles per hour. Now it was time to see how quickly he could bring it to zero. Typically, this is just a matter of mashing the brakes and holding on. The sound of straining tires is a sound that's welcome, but a metallic snapping noise is not. Either way, the 2012 Boss 302 was a runaway pony.

Mortara used the six-speed manual transmission to reduce the coupe's speed before exiting the track through a gap at its end. What went wrong? A pin that connects the brake pedal to the rod that actuates the master cylinder had failed and snapped off. Normally, the brake pedal connects to the rod in a manner that distributes the pressure evenly over a large surface area and would still actuate the brakes when one presses the pedal.

Ford quality!

 

[CowboyDan]

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/04/25/ford-mustang-boss-302-fails-motor-trend-brake-test-here/



Ford quality!

A scarey story, no doubt...but if you're going to post it, you should also post this part of it:

"Ford reacted instantly to news of the failure. Our Boss 302 was collected and sent away for a tear-down and inspection. The Mustang line was shut down, and every brake assembly checked. Ford also reviewed its process to ensure incorrect attachment of the brake pedal arm to the master cylinder clevis rod end could not occur. We’re told no anomalies were found. And we haven’t seen anything awry on the Mustangs we’ve checked since.
How the arm was misassembled on our Boss 302 tester remains a mystery to Ford, and to us. The only thing we can think of is this particular car’s master cylinder had been removed after it left the factory, and the incorrect connection to the brake pedal arm made when it was reinstalled, although we have no proof either way. Based on the evidence, we’re prepared to chalk this incident up to a freakish combination of circumstances."​

It's not a design flaw. And it was most likely a poor re-assembly by a shop or mechanic not employed by Ford. Not saying Fords don't have problems...all cars do....but this is a poor example and I'll stand by Fords quality, especially vs Mopar and GM.​

PS- This is why I do 90% of the work on my cars myself. I don't trust joe shmoe at the local shop or car stealership to care about how well my car is maintained. I've seen/heard too many horror stories.

 

[CowboyDan]

Quality Rankings per JD Power

BRANDS OVERALL (defects per 100 vehicles):
Industry average was 108 per 100

1. Porsche (83)
2. Acura (86)
3. Mercedes-Benz (87)
4. Lexus (88)
5. Ford (93)
6. Honda (95)
7. Hyundai (102)
8. Lincoln (106)
9. Infiniti (107)
10. Volvo (109)
11. Ram (110)
12. Audi (111)
13. Cadillac (111)
14. Chevrolet (111)
15. Nissan (111)
16. BMW (113)
17. Mercury (113)
18. Buick (114)
19. Mazda(114)
20. Scion (114)
21. Toyota (117)
22. Subaru (121)
23. Chrysler (122)
24. Suzuki (122)
25. GMC (126)
26. Kia (126)
27. Jeep (129)
28. Dodge (130)
29. Jaguar (130)
30. Mini (133)
31. Volkswagen (135)
32. Mitsubishi (146)
33. Land Rover (170)

 

[DIAF]

A scarey story, no doubt...but if you're going to post it, you should also post this part of it:

But then it wouldn't have been quite as funny.

 

[CowboyWay]

late 60's, Camaro, no question...

Today.....Mustang.