MVP thru 8 weeks is not who we think

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7 penalties and 4 sacks allowed on less than 500 snaps...... (Not trying to be snarky, he's doing great but those 2 things alone are far from elite). Just to put that into perspective, 2019 tyron (back when everyone was crying that "he's washed up" and "is becoming a penalty machine") had 1 sacked allowed and 8 penalties on almost 900 snaps

But 2019 Tyron wasn't a rookie and took training camp at LT, not LG.
 

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Here is a nice problem to have, what happens when Tyron comes back?
 

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But 2019 Tyron wasn't a rookie and took training camp at LT, not LG.
You're arguing two different things. I'm not saying he's doing bad for a rookie but you simply asked why is he not considered elite currently and I gave you the reason.

Elite accolades and elite status doesn't differentiate based on how many years you've been in the league. You're either elite or not (bringing up training camp status or how long he's played literally means nothing)
 

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Yes Micah is a friggin beast..ELITE. But drum roll......SO IS LEFT TACKLE Tyler Smith. This kid is already elite. We don't win 6 games without him so far. He was quiet yesterday because he mauled his guy all day and not 1 penalty on him. Kid is a steal in rd 1, MAYBE of the entire draft. He makes guys look silly. Kudos to Will McClay once again saving our bacon.

Tyler Smith has played pretty well but you’re going way overboard calling him elite and mentioning him in the same sentence with Micah Parsons. Lol
 

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without a great LT in this league you wont win much. When Tyron went down he was threw into the fire and has been near elite. Micah is an alpha dog and the team leader, but right now if this kid went down, we will have 40 year old Jason peters left to start there. Its a good debate. We have 2 outstanding players...generational ,WE are blessed.
I think we would've lost most games without Micah.
 

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With all respect, this thread is a bit of a mess.

You start by talking team MVP, and then within a dozen posts you are saying,
"hes getting there"
"He's certainly a fast riser"

Smith is coming along nicely, but he wouldn't be in the top five for team MVP.

Martin, Steele, Pollard on O; Parsons, Tank on D easily better and more valuable.

By season end Dak will certainly be in discussion.
 
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Unless you are grading on a curve he’s not even top 5. He’s thoroughly exceeded expectations and potential is sky high. But performance wise he’s not even the best tackle on the team, Steele has been better.
 

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love this kid. honestly, kinda similar to micah last year where he was thrust into a major role in the position he wasn’t drafted for and didn’t skip a beat
 

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love this kid. honestly, kinda similar to micah last year where he was thrust into a major role in the position he wasn’t drafted for and didn’t skip a beat
well said. Thats why i said what I did.
 

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We are witnessing 2 generational guys develop before our eyes. In back to back drafts. We playin with house money. PLUS we have Clark.
 

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We would have the Ty Neske's of the world starting at LT right now had we not drafted him..MAYBE. Him and maybe Peters.
 

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We were told he was very raw,and we reached. Turns out Will McClay was right again. He was the best LT drafted in the draft.
 

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You're arguing two different things. I'm not saying he's doing bad for a rookie but you simply asked why is he not considered elite currently and I gave you the reason.

Elite accolades and elite status doesn't differentiate based on how many years you've been in the league. You're either elite or not (bringing up training camp status or how long he's played literally means nothing)

I didn't ask anything :huh:
 

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Yes Micah is a friggin beast..ELITE. But drum roll......SO IS LEFT TACKLE Tyler Smith. This kid is already elite. We don't win 6 games without him so far. He was quiet yesterday because he mauled his guy all day and not 1 penalty on him. Kid is a steal in rd 1, MAYBE of the entire draft. He makes guys look silly. Kudos to Will McClay once again saving our bacon.
I know 1st rd picks arent pet cats but his my dawg. Really the draft was great over all and I’m not tapping the brakes
 
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