My 1 and only Henson thread of this training camp.

[Sarge]

I have pledged not to discuss the QB situation until after TC otherwise I would elaborate more.

Great Post JT

Morning Popster.......

 

[Cbz40]

Yep, jt. Patience.

Many are so desperate for the next great Cowboy QB, they can't see straight. There was some of us here who believed this kid would be worth the investment in terms of time as well as compensation. I was one. At the end of the day, I along with those other may end up being wrong, but the time portion of that equation is needed before the final analysis is made.

How much time?

I'm not sure, but it would be nice to see this kid vs. live action, i.e. the preseason before we determine whether or not he's taken a step back/forward from 2004.

There have been a couple guys develop nicely, thanks to NFLE. Someone mentioned Warner. Jake Delhomme is another. Brad Johnson, did he not toil over there as well? It's not for everyone, I guess. But I would like to see him playing when and wherever possible. But what do I know?

Just my .02 here, but it's not quite time to cut bait with this kid. Exercise a little patience, please. He's not going anywhere.

 

[Cbz40]

Morning Popster.......

Morning Sarge....have a great day Sir

 

[jay cee]

Great post JT. I have always felt that it was better to play the guy when he's ready to help your team win some games. Not just play for experience.

Now I recognize that is not the only way to develop qb's. It is just my preference.

 

[JackMagist]

Who cares?

It only matters if he plays in a regular season game and Parcells had Henson 3rd string a lot of last year then promoted him to play in place of Vinny when he needed a starter so the current depth chart means nothing.

Just one fine point here. Henson was the #2 guy behind Vinny at the time he went down. Parcells did not suddenly promote him over Romo specifically so he could start; he had already been promoted to #2 before Vinny went down. Your statement was a bit misleading in that regard.

 

[royhitshard]

Only Cowboy fans could have 85 threads dedicated to the backup QB.

Drew Henson is a talented guy. That talent hasn't disappeared. He's still the same guy physically. So we still have our potential starter of the future. Potentially.

My stance on QBs is pretty simple. Play them when they have proven they can play. Huh? Well its really pretty simple. I'd rather have Steve Young on my bench for 4 years then have Ryan Leaf as my starter for 2 years. All of this putting them in the fire stuff is counter productive. Some guys take to the NFL game right and some guys are on 3 win teams being trotted out to appease fans. But I'd rather find my guy the Brady way. Let him be a backup until he proves he can win. Whether they are Carter, Hutch, Wright, Stoerner, or Henson it matters zero to me. Make them prove they can play first. Until then make sure you have someone who has.

I would have sent Drew Henson to NFLE this year. Let the kid play lesser talents and run a team's huddle. If he gets hurt then so be it and he ends up on the sideline where he was gonna be anyways right? Staying here to toss to a coach was silly IMHO. Use the developmental tools the league provides for goodness sakes.

The time to lose sleep over Henson is 8 weeks into the season if Bledsoe gets knocked out of the game, not now.

Back up and give the kid room to breathe.

Excellent Post!!

 

[kartr]

Henson does have talent. He is a big QB. Athletic fast and mobile. He also has a rocket for a arm. But all that talent is not doing him any good right now. He was away from the game to long and I do not think he will be able to get over that.

If we can get a franchise QB of the future next year or the year after then dump Henson.

Great post. Henson is a great athletic talent, but that's all.

 

[kartr]

Henson will get his chance. Warner played in NFL E and later took the Rams to a SB. He also bagged groceries at one point. Maybe Henson could do both. Naw. (%

Bill retained poccession of his QBs becauses he wants them to be trained his way. He wants them to work out under the supervision of his trainers.

I hope he works out JT, Roger was another Dallas QB who was away from the game for awhile and didn't start immediabtely after the Cowboys finally got him in camp. But he worked out pretty well after he got them to some Superbowls.

Roger was a heisman winner. Big difference. He also practiced with the team every summer while in service. Big difference again.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Roger was a heisman winner. Big difference. He also practiced with the team every summer while in service. Big difference again.

I think Roger is like the only Heisman trophy QB to do well. Isn't it a curse for QBs? Also, I don't know how winning a trophy is a "big difference".

 

[kartr]

The fact that there is a competition between Romo and Henson tells you all you need to know about Henson. The great ones put those arguments to bed early, even after a layoff. We should have seen some signs of dominance by now.

 

[Established1971]

Only Cowboy fans could have 85 threads dedicated to the backup QB.

Drew Henson is a talented guy. That talent hasn't disappeared. He's still the same guy physically. So we still have our potential starter of the future. Potentially.

My stance on QBs is pretty simple. Play them when they have proven they can play. Huh? Well its really pretty simple. I'd rather have Steve Young on my bench for 4 years then have Ryan Leaf as my starter for 2 years. All of this putting them in the fire stuff is counter productive. Some guys take to the NFL game right and some guys are on 3 win teams being trotted out to appease fans. But I'd rather find my guy the Brady way. Let him be a backup until he proves he can win. Whether they are Carter, Hutch, Wright, Stoerner, or Henson it matters zero to me. Make them prove they can play first. Until then make sure you have someone who has.

I would have sent Drew Henson to NFLE this year. Let the kid play lesser talents and run a team's huddle. If he gets hurt then so be it and he ends up on the sideline where he was gonna be anyways right? Staying here to toss to a coach was silly IMHO. Use the developmental tools the league provides for goodness sakes.

The time to lose sleep over Henson is 8 weeks into the season if Bledsoe gets knocked out of the game, not now.

Back up and give the kid room to breathe.

I hear that argument but then I recall guys like John Elway, Bert Jones and Troy Aikman (and Im sure many others if I thought about it more) who were thrown into the fire and ended up exceling. I cant get past the idea that you learn more on the field in real games than you can with a clipboard. I think the Giants were smart to scrap the Warner idea as early as they did.

 

[scrives]

The very fact that Henson was ahead of Romo at one point last year speaks volumes. After a 4 year lay off he still showed enough to sit Romo down. This year they are working on his mechanics which takes some getting use to and Romo is in his 3rd year yet by all accounts Romo can not seperate himself from Henson once again. All this after a 4 year lay off and working on his throwing motion. Give Henson time. I believe in the end we all will be happy that we did.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I think Roger is like the only Heisman trophy QB to do well. Isn't it a curse for QBs? Also, I don't know how winning a trophy is a "big difference".

I guess that would depend on the definition of well.

Staubach did well, no question.

I would say that Plunkett did pretty well. I think Doug Flutie had a decent career. I would even say that Vinnie has had a decent career. Paul Horning was a RB at GB but I believe he was listed as a QB when he won it, while at ND. Clearly, he had a great career. It's still early for Carson Palmer but I think he's on his way. Certainly, Matt Leinart has all the tools to be great so we will have to see there.

I think that there were a couple that did OK but I think you do bring up a good point, in that, most Heisman QBs, 19 in all, have not lived up to there billing in the NFL.

 

[Nors]

Henson took 3 years off to play baseball.

Yes he is in a battle year 2 with Tony Romo.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

The fact that there is a competition between Romo and Henson tells you all you need to know about Henson. The great ones put those arguments to bed early, even after a layoff. We should have seen some signs of dominance by now.

Not sure I can agree with you on this. First, I think you would have to define which great ones were in simular situations. Then, you could make a comparison and go from there.

At this moment, the only great one in a simular situation that comes to mind was Staubach. Obviously, he did not immediatly put the compatition to bed. I am open to convincing on this subject but at this point, I don't know that I would agree with you.

 

[BHendri5]

Henson does have talent. He is a big QB. Athletic fast and mobile. He also has a rocket for a arm. But all that talent is not doing him any good right now. He was away from the game to long and I do not think he will be able to get over that.

If we can get a franchise QB of the future next year or the year after then dump Henson.

I agree with everything except the Fast and mobile part. Unless he runs a 4:4 and under in the 40yd dash he is not fast. Mobility wise I hear he is on par with Bledsoe and the NFL does not consider Bledsoe as Mobile.

I've asked many Michigan followers and they have said that Henson needs his OL to be on point, just like Bledsoe.

But every QB in the league needs a good OL, so that really means squat.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I agree with everything except the Fast and mobile part. Unless he runs a 4:4 and under in the 40yd dash he is not fast. Mobility wise I hear he is on par with Bledsoe and the NFL does not consider Bledsoe as Mobile.

I've asked many Michigan followers and they have said that Henson needs his OL to be on point, just like Bledsoe.

But every QB in the league needs a good OL, so that really means squat.

If memory serves, Henson is a 4.7 guy, or so. That is not bad speed for a QB. As for being on Par with Bledsoe, this is completely inaccurate. One of the things that people have not seen from Henson yet is his mobility. He really is an excellent athlete. He moves well for his size. He is not Bledsoe. Henson does have pretty good wheels.

 

[Banned_n_austin]

I'm all for Henson being the back up if he can beat out Tony Romo ... but he's got his plate full just to do that ...

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I'm all for Henson being the back up if he can beat out Tony Romo ... but he's got his plate full just to do that ...

This is a true statement.

BTW, I like this Sig Pic much better then the old one. I think it's the Mowhawk.

 

[Banned_n_austin]

This is a true statement.

BTW, I like this Sig Pic much better then the old one. I think it's the Mowhawk.

Just don't let it hit you in the face too many times before you realize it smells.