My draft ramblings....

[CashMan]

How do you have a Guard as the #1 player, on your list? Never in a million years, will a guard be rated that high.

If you are listening to Todd McShay for your draft info, that is sad. ESPN has been pushing him for several years, he knows nothing about the NFL draft.

 

[Dwight]

How do you have a Guard as the #1 player, on your list? Never in a million years, will a guard be rated that high.

If you are listening to Todd McShay for your draft info, that is sad. ESPN has been pushing him for several years, he knows nothing about the NFL draft.

Chance Warmack is very good player. I might get heat for this but if Dallas selects Warmack, he might be the next Larry Allen for Dallas. Just my observations of him and my opinion.

 

[CF74]

Chance Warmack is very good player. I might get heat for this but if Dallas selects Warmack, he might be the next Larry Allen for Dallas. Just my observations of him and my opinion.

 

[Dwight]

That's why I stated its just my opinion.

 

[CashMan]

Chance Warmack is very good player. I might get heat for this but if Dallas selects Warmack, he might be the next Larry Allen for Dallas. Just my observations of him and my opinion.

I do not doubt he is good, just not #1 rated good. Guard does not have the same value as LT. Also, the same was said for DeCastro, how did that work out for him in the draft? Warmack also has a red flag for sweating too much, IDK if I want my guy on IVs constantly. Sometimes, NFL caliber players look like gods among kids in College, so I do not put too much stock in him, if Dallas did take him at 18, I would be happy, but no way would he be #1 on my board.

 

[Dalmations202]

I have a question that is a little off the subject, but still somewhat applies to Risen rankings.

How do you rate Eric Fisher from Central Michigan so high?
Don't get me wrong I don't mean to criticize your good work (it seems to fall in line with most experts), but you have tape on him playing against what top ranked talent? Michigan State maybe -- or is it that he was good against Toledo?

From what I have seen, he is probably a great workout warrior, and probably deserves to be in the 1st round, but I couldn't find anything where he played against the best - and that is all he will see in the NFL.

While he may end up being Larry Allen - totally dominant -- Larry Allen was a second rounder because he hadn't played against the top teams. I am just curious why everyone think Fisher will succeed where others haven't.

I watched Teo this year as well, and as long as he wasn't up against top flight competition he was a top 5 pick easily -- then came the championship game.

I am just curious how anyone who is not playing for a major school who is ranked in the top 10 in the nation is considered in the top 5 selections. Is this why the draft is such a craps shoot?

Thoughts?

 

[ABQcowboyJR]

I have a question that is a little off the subject, but still somewhat applies to Risen rankings.

How do you rate Eric Fisher from Central Michigan so high?
Don't get me wrong I don't mean to criticize your good work (it seems to fall in line with most experts), but you have tape on him playing against what top ranked talent? Michigan State maybe -- or is it that he was good against Toledo?

From what I have seen, he is probably a great workout warrior, and probably deserves to be in the 1st round, but I couldn't find anything where he played against the best - and that is all he will see in the NFL.

While he may end up being Larry Allen - totally dominant -- Larry Allen was a second rounder because he hadn't played against the top teams. I am just curious why everyone think Fisher will succeed where others haven't.

I watched Teo this year as well, and as long as he wasn't up against top flight competition he was a top 5 pick easily -- then came the championship game.

I am just curious how anyone who is not playing for a major school who is ranked in the top 10 in the nation is considered in the top 5 selections. Is this why the draft is such a craps shoot?

Thoughts?

The senior bowl really helped him. When he played against that elite college competition he thrived.

 

[Dalmations202]

The senior bowl really helped him. When he played against that elite college competition he thrived.

Thanks -- he must have really been dominant there.

 

[AsthmaField]

Thanks -- he must have really been dominant there.

He really was. He was so nimble that nobody got even close to beating him in 1-on-1 drills. One of the coaches that was there watching stated that one of the DL looked really good (I can't remember who it was)... unless he was going against Eric Fisher, and then he looked like everyone else... because Fisher just stonewalled everyone.

Everything looked easy for Fisher. He was just on another level.

 

[xwalker]

Chance Warmack is very good player. I might get heat for this but if Dallas selects Warmack, he might be the next Larry Allen for Dallas. Just my observations of him and my opinion.

People remember LA for the 700 lbs bench press and blowing defenders up with great power; however, LA also had elite athleticism. He went to the Pro Bowl one year at Left Tackle.

Warmack's athleticism is not remotely close to LA's.

 

[Manster54]

I do not doubt he is good, just not #1 rated good. Guard does not have the same value as LT. Also, the same was said for DeCastro, how did that work out for him in the draft? Warmack also has a red flag for sweating too much, IDK if I want my guy on IVs constantly. Sometimes, NFL caliber players look like gods among kids in College, so I do not put too much stock in him, if Dallas did take him at 18, I would be happy, but no way would he be #1 on my board.

Yeah, I heard Warmack is "in the box" for heavy sweating.

 

[Risen Star]

My rankings are a combination of watching a ton of games, videos, and of course leaning on opinions I trust when I don't get to see the player very often, if at all.

 

[DFWJC]

. When the Cowboys are actually on the clock, I'll make note of the player I would take at that spot and post those picks after the draft. That's your real mock draft. The team is actually on the clock making a pick and you can actually see who is available.

I agree.

I'll try to do the same, but not so sure I can pull it off with all the family and work deadline stuff on Saturday.

 

[DFWJC]

Risen, you're dead on about Vaccaro.

I rather stay away from Sly though because of the age thing. However, he is underrated and highly talented.

Sly is only 2 1/2 months older than Richardson. Both will be 24 for almost all of next season.

 

[Gaede]

Sly is only 2 1/2 months older than Richardson. Both will be 24 for almost all of next season.

Seriously?! Did not know that.

In that case, I prefer Sly--who built much more like a DT

 

[DFWJC]

How do you rate Eric Fisher from Central Michigan so high?
Don't get me wrong I don't mean to criticize your good work (it seems to fall in line with most experts), but you have tape on him playing against what top ranked talent? Michigan State maybe -- or is it that he was good against Toledo?

From what I have seen, he is probably a great workout warrior, and probably deserves to be in the 1st round, but I couldn't find anything where he played against the best - and that is all he will see in the NFL.

While he may end up being Larry Allen - totally dominant -- Larry Allen was a second rounder because he hadn't played against the top teams. I am just curious why everyone think Fisher will succeed where others haven't.

I watched Teo this year as well, and as long as he wasn't up against top flight competition he was a top 5 pick easily -- then came the championship game.

I am just curious how anyone who is not playing for a major school who is ranked in the top 10 in the nation is considered in the top 5 selections. Is this why the draft is such a craps shoot?

Thoughts?

Well, he IS going to be the very 1st player taken in the draft....and most GMs seems to rank him as high or higher than RS does.

Sorry, but I have issue with the "power conference" snobbery.
Fisher did play D-1 football...it's not like he played D-2 or D-3 ball. And the list is very, very long and distinguished of great NFL players (Hall of Famers too) that did not play in one of the "power conference schools".

Say "Hi" to Demarcus Ware or Jerry Rice for starters.
Oh yeah..and Larry Allen.

On the other hand, there's an huge list of top 10 players selected from "major schools" (oh, let's say Michigan State, for example) who were total busts at the next level. Say "hi" to Vernon Gholston and Tony Manderich.

 

[21Savage]

I can't believe no one has called him out for having a CB rated 12th overall. A CB rated lower than Mo for that matter.

 

[DFWJC]

I can't believe no one has called him out for having a CB rated 12th overall. A CB rated lower than Mo for that matter.

He rates Milliner lower than almost all of analysts, so please explain

 

[21Savage]

He rates Milliner lower than almost all of analysts, so please explain

He's still at a position risen star has claimed doesn't even matter on the field.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

I'm telling you right now, if the Cowboys draft Kenny Vaccaro at 18 or earlier, I will hate, Hate, HATE the pick. This is worst case scenario for me. Like packaging 1st and 2nd round picks last year for a cornerback was a nightmare.

yea, the way the board is looking, I think Vaccaro will be the pick. Floyd is likely to go to Carolina and if Star is gone, I think we go Vaccaro

edit: swap star with floyd