My initial pick 12 wish list

[darthseinfeld]

People say the draft isnt deep. I don't see that at all honesty. For me its lacks QB's, some OT and WR, but thats it. Very rich in DL talent. Particularly at DT. I got two DT's on my short list that I can see being 8-10 sack guys. I have 2 DE's that I could see being 12-15 sack guys, and one (Green) thats being left off because he will likely go in the 20's. To my eyes, thats a very good menu for whats called a weak draft. With that being, here is my wishlist

1: Derrick Harmon. DT , Oregon

Great size, athleticism and production. Had some of if not the best pass rush metrics in college ball. Also a very stout run defender. I think there is a strong possibility he goes top 10, but if he doesnt he is my top target. He will be a riser through the draft process
Reminds me of Muhammad Wilkerson


2: Mykel Williams. DE, Georgia

Williams is a guy you hope QB's get overvalued. If they do you have a chance. If not, he is long gone. Neck and neck with Harmon for my top spot. Dynamic edge rusher with all pro potential that plays the run about as well as he plays the pass

3: James Pearse. DE, Tennessee .

Another player that will be a riser. About 10-15 picks usually separate Williams from Pearse in most current mocks. I see that gap closing once media scouts get in sync with pro's. The biggest separator between the two is about 20 pounds that Pearse will eventually put on. Like Williams a dynamic edge rushee who plays the run about as well as he does the pass. The big difference is right now you probably dont want Pearse in on every run down until he add weight

4: Kelvin Banks. OT, Texas

God I hate having an OT here. However we do have questions about the future at the critical LT spot and Banks is absolutely a worthy prospect in this slot. Some people say he has a guards build, and maybe they arent wrong. But Banks is an OT that could play OG.

5: Walter Nolen. DT, Ole Miss

12 could seem high for him now, but I see him rising. Explosive and productive against both the pass and run. A pure 3T, reminds me a bit of Nnamdi Madubuike

6: Luther Burden. WR Missouri

Production suffered a bit this year due to QB play, but he is an incredibly gifted WR prospect. YAC monster with a HB build that moves like WR 10 pounds lighter. Threatens every level of the field. Has the talent of a #1 WR and could force some coverage away from Lamb

 

[reddyuta]

I am very interested In Nolen,i could see him make a leap after the Combine.probably a better 3T in our scheme than Graham.

 

[darthseinfeld]

I am very interested In Nolen,i could see him make a leap after the Combine.probably a better 3T in our scheme than Graham.

Good tape at an SEC school and should test very well

 

[reddyuta]

Good tape at an SEC school and should test very well

he was OK at A&M and could have done even better if not for their dumpster fire season and turmoil.

 

[baltcowboy]

People say the draft isnt deep. I don't see that at all honesty. For me its lacks QB's, some OT and WR, but thats it. Very rich in DL talent. Particularly at DT. I got two DT's on my short list that I can see being 8-10 sack guys. I have 2 DE's that I could see being 12-15 sack guys, and one (Green) thats being left off because he will likely go in the 20's. To my eyes, thats a very good menu for whats called a weak draft. With that being, here is my wishlist

1: Derrick Harmon. DT , Oregon

Great size, athleticism and production. Had some of if not the best pass rush metrics in college ball. Also a very stout run defender. I think there is a strong possibility he goes top 10, but if he doesnt he is my top target. He will be a riser through the draft process
Reminds me of Muhammad Wilkerson


2: Mykel Williams. DE, Georgia

Williams is a guy you hope QB's get overvalued. If they do you have a chance. If not, he is long gone. Neck and neck with Harmon for my top spot. Dynamic edge rusher with all pro potential that plays the run about as well as he plays the pass

3: James Pearse. DE, Tennessee .

Another player that will be a riser. About 10-15 picks usually separate Williams from Pearse in most current mocks. I see that gap closing once media scouts get in sync with pro's. The biggest separator between the two is about 20 pounds that Pearse will eventually put on. Like Williams a dynamic edge rushee who plays the run about as well as he does the pass. The big difference is right now you probably dont want Pearse in on every run down until he add weight

4: Kelvin Banks. OT, Texas

God I hate having an OT here. However we do have questions about the future at the critical LT spot and Banks is absolutely a worthy prospect in this slot. Some people say he has a guards build, and maybe they arent wrong. But Banks is an OT that could play OG.

5: Walter Nolen. DT, Ole Miss

12 could seem high for him now, but I see him rising. Explosive and productive against both the pass and run. A pure 3T, reminds me a bit of Nnamdi Madubuike

6: Luther Burden. WR Missouri

Production suffered a bit this year due to QB play, but he is an incredibly gifted WR prospect. YAC monster with a HB build that moves like WR 10 pounds lighter. Threatens every level of the field. Has the talent of a #1 WR and could force some coverage away from Lamb

Banks is probably the only player on your list that would be a walk in starter for the Cowboys. The other guys would take time to develop. The question is does the fanbase have the patience to wait. I have my doubts.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Banks is probably the only player on your list that would be a walk in starter for the Cowboys. The other guys would take time to develop. The question is does the fanbase have the patience to wait. I have my doubts.

Everyone on my list would be a walk in starter. The DT's and DE's would easily play 50% of the snaps. Although I know you dont like Burden, he would be an instant upgrade over any WR behind Lamb

At DT Mazi may be a nominal starter over Nolan because he is 1T. But Nolan would probably end up playing 60% or so of the snaps

 

[John813]

4: Kelvin Banks. OT, Texas

God I hate having an OT here. However we do have questions about the future at the critical LT spot and Banks is absolutely a worthy prospect in this slot. Some people say he has a guards build, and maybe they arent wrong. But Banks is an OT that could play OG.

Not serious, but if there's concerns about him translating as a Tackle in the NFL, I would bump him off my list.
Like the rest of the wish list.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Here's my concern Darth......many have said we need to stop the run. Until we do that, this defense will struggle. If this is our goal/priority, why are we focused on interior players' sack stats? We ranked 3rd in sacks, just behind the Broncos and Ravens but 29th in run defense. In other words, it seems to me we should focus on the best interior run defender ( Jordan Davis mode ) tech 1/NT we can find AND a solid MLBer.

Just noticed Kendrick had 138 tackles for the season. Overshown was the next closest with 87 but we still ranked 29th in run defense.

Just me, we need to do WHATEVER it takes to fix the run defense issue ..........I don't know what it is but it should be THE top priority




https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/most-team-sacks-this-season


https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/team/dallas-cowboys-75/2024

 

[darthseinfeld]

Not serious, but if there's concerns about him translating as a Tackle in the NFL, I would bump him off my list.
Like the rest of the wish list.

There arent concerns IMO. I think people confuse skill set to play guard with better off at guard. He is definitely an NFL OT. Think Rashawn Slater

 

[John813]

Here's my concern Darth......many have said we need to stop the run. Until we do that, this defense will struggle. If this is our goal/priority, why are we focused on interior players' sack stats? We ranked 3rd in sacks, just behind the Broncos and Ravens but 29th in run defense. In other words, it seems to me we should focus on the best interior run defender ( Jordan Davis mode ) tech 1/NT we can find AND a solid MLBer.

Just noticed Kendrick had 138 tackles for the season. Overshown was the next closest with 87 but we still ranked 29th in run defense.

Just me, we need to do WHATEVER it takes to fix the run defense issue ..........I don't know what it is but it should be THE top priority




https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/most-team-sacks-this-season


https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/team/dallas-cowboys-75/2024

IMO you need to find that defensive tackle that can stop the run and pass, if you are taking one high.
Just a plugger, I don't see the value unless they are guaranteed to be the next Wilfork.

It's not just the DTs for the run defense. Parsons at edge is not a plus run stopper. Lawrence was out for most of the year. Lawson was never known as a plus run stopper. Kneeland was out a good amount too, and was a rook.
Overshown was great in coverage/in space but needed more time to be a run stopper.

Also, being down mulitple scores and getting run on due to fatigue, like the Eagles game, was our previous blueprint with a young Zeke/Murray. Only so much a defense can do before they break due to being on the field all day.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Here's my concern Darth......many have said we need to stop the run. Until we do that, this defense will struggle. If this is our goal/priority, why are we focused on interior players' sack stats? We ranked 3rd in sacks, just behind the Broncos and Ravens but 29th in run defense. In other words, it seems to me we should focus on the best interior run defender ( Jordan Davis mode ) tech 1/NT we can find AND a solid MLBer.

Just noticed Kendrick had 138 tackles for the season. Overshown was the next closest with 87 but we still ranked 29th in run defense.

Just me, we need to do WHATEVER it takes to fix the run defense issue ..........I don't know what it is but it should be THE top priority




https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/most-team-sacks-this-season


https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/team/dallas-cowboys-75/2024

Because you dont draft DT's in the first based soley on their ability to stop the run. To he a first round caliber DT, you need to have a top level ability to pressure the QB. Both Harmon and Nolan are also very good run defenders

 

[Landryhat73]

IMO you need to find that defensive tackle that can stop the run and pass, if you are taking one high.
Just a plugger, I don't see the value unless they are guaranteed to be the next Wilfork.

It's not just the DTs for the run defense. Parsons at edge is not a plus run stopper. Lawrence was out for most of the year. Lawson was never known as a plus run stopper. Kneeland was out a good amount too, and was a rook.
Overshown was great in coverage/in space but needed more time to be a run stopper.

Also, being down mulitple scores and getting run on due to fatigue, like the Eagles game, was our previous blueprint with a young Zeke/Murray. Only so much a defense can do before they break due to being on the field all day.

Lawrence was one of the best run stopping DEs in the league the last couple of years.

 

[big dog cowboy]

1: Derrick Harmon. DT , Oregon
2: Mykel Williams. DE, Georgia
3: James Pearse. DE, Tennessee
5: Walter Nolen. DT, Ole Miss
6: Luther Burden. WR Missouri

Give me any 2 of those please.

 

[Landryhat73]

People say the draft isnt deep. I don't see that at all honesty. For me its lacks QB's, some OT and WR, but thats it. Very rich in DL talent. Particularly at DT. I got two DT's on my short list that I can see being 8-10 sack guys. I have 2 DE's that I could see being 12-15 sack guys, and one (Green) thats being left off because he will likely go in the 20's. To my eyes, thats a very good menu for whats called a weak draft. With that being, here is my wishlist

1: Derrick Harmon. DT , Oregon

Great size, athleticism and production. Had some of if not the best pass rush metrics in college ball. Also a very stout run defender. I think there is a strong possibility he goes top 10, but if he doesnt he is my top target. He will be a riser through the draft process
Reminds me of Muhammad Wilkerson


2: Mykel Williams. DE, Georgia

Williams is a guy you hope QB's get overvalued. If they do you have a chance. If not, he is long gone. Neck and neck with Harmon for my top spot. Dynamic edge rusher with all pro potential that plays the run about as well as he plays the pass

3: James Pearse. DE, Tennessee .

Another player that will be a riser. About 10-15 picks usually separate Williams from Pearse in most current mocks. I see that gap closing once media scouts get in sync with pro's. The biggest separator between the two is about 20 pounds that Pearse will eventually put on. Like Williams a dynamic edge rushee who plays the run about as well as he does the pass. The big difference is right now you probably dont want Pearse in on every run down until he add weight

4: Kelvin Banks. OT, Texas

God I hate having an OT here. However we do have questions about the future at the critical LT spot and Banks is absolutely a worthy prospect in this slot. Some people say he has a guards build, and maybe they arent wrong. But Banks is an OT that could play OG.

5: Walter Nolen. DT, Ole Miss

12 could seem high for him now, but I see him rising. Explosive and productive against both the pass and run. A pure 3T, reminds me a bit of Nnamdi Madubuike

6: Luther Burden. WR Missouri

Production suffered a bit this year due to QB play, but he is an incredibly gifted WR prospect. YAC monster with a HB build that moves like WR 10 pounds lighter. Threatens every level of the field. Has the talent of a #1 WR and could force some coverage away from Lamb

James Pearse would be the only player I would hesitant with. He doesn't play the run well. Looks at his snapes, he basically was a situation pass rusher in college.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Give me any 2 of those please.

Any 2?

 

[baltcowboy]

Everyone on my list would be a walk in starter. The DT's and DE's would easily play 50% of the snaps. Although I know you dont like Burden, he would be an instant upgrade over any WR behind Lamb

At DT Mazi may be a nominal starter over Nolan because he is 1T. But Nolan would probably end up playing 60% or so of the snaps

Harmon/Nolan are not starting over Mazi. No matter how much the board hates him. He is better than both right now. Plus his offseason in the weight room/offseason program will do wonders. They both would be solid rotation players. We probably can get that with our second round pick because of the tackle depth.

Pierce/Williams would not start over Sam Williams/Kneeland. Pierce would need to gain some weight. Williams (one of my favorites) needs to develop. Both could be rotation players but I don’t see year one studs.

The Cowboys need an X. Burden is more of a Z receiver.

Banks is the right guard today on our offensive line.

Not a bad list. I see where you are going. I hate the this draft. Not many first round players overall.

 

[John813]

Lawrence was one of the best run stopping DEs in the league the last couple of years.

He was. IIRC, going back to the Cardinals game 2 seasons ago, they found success running on the opposite side, towards Parsons that game.

I wouldn't mind keeping him if he's willing to take a cheaper contract to stay local.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Harmon/Nolan are not starting over Mazi. No matter how much the board hates him. He is better than both right now. Plus his offseason in the weight room/offseason program will do wonders. They both would be solid rotation players. We probably can get that with our second round pick because of the tackle depth.

Pierce/Williams would not start over Sam Williams/Kneeland. Pierce would need to gain some weight. Williams (one of my favorites) needs to develop. Both could be rotation players but I don’t see year one studs.

The Cowboys need an X. Burden is more of a Z receiver.

Banks is the right guard today on our offensive line.

I disagree on all of that. I think you are both underestimating the prospects and overestimating our talent on hand.

Ive championed Smiths development, but he is and always might be a one dimensional player. Either Harmon or Nolan walk into the building better players.

Sam Williams is a one dimensional pass rusher coming off a knee injury. Kneeland is a solid player right now, but still a ways away before you can feel good about playing him on passing downs. Both Williams and Pearce are better players at this point and worlds ahead of where he was as a prospect.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Because you dont draft DT's in the first based soley on their ability to stop the run. To he a first round caliber DT, you need to have a top level ability to pressure the QB

Yea ........Stephen Jones said years ago.....he would never use a 1st on a 1-tech, so understand that. But I think we agree run defense is a top priority.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Yea ........Stephen Jones said years ago.....he would never use a 1st on a 1-tech, so understand that. But I think we agree run defense is a top priority.

We need to fix the run defense, yes. But you go into the 12th pick of the draft with the idea of using it on a player specifically to fix the run defense. It has to be a well rounder or its a huge waste of resources