My meaningless thoughts on the game...

lurkercowboy;1207761 said:
Aikman defending Plaxico on that late hit was lame. Not one word about how it was a cheap shot, which it obviously was.

Aikman wouldnt shut up about how if Eli throws it to Shockeys right hip, its an easy TD, "Anthony was very fortunate to knock that away." :starspin
 
khiladi;1207836 said:
And Jaworski isn't pro-Philly?

The difference is that you don't have to listen to Jaws call our games. Give me Nantz and Simms over Aikman and Buck any day.
 
Yakuza Rich;1207709 said:
- Troy Aikman is too annoying to listen to on Cowboys games. It was ridiculous to hear him try to defend Plaxico Burress for trucking Keith Davis well after the play was over, miss a blatant hold on a Ayodele blitz and then claim that Romo made a forward pass. Are we sure Troy actually played for Dallas in his career?


i'm glad it wasn't just me. he just talks too much in a business where less is more sometimes...
 
BrAinPaiNt;1207726 said:
Man alive I wish people would realize that Troy is not being paid to be a Dallas Homer while covering games.]

He's not paid to stick up for the opponent on nearly every call or non-call either. C'mon, sticking up for Plaxico on the penalty he had on Keith Davis was tremendously awful. There's no if's and's or but's about it.

Not to mention I don't see how Whitfield wasn't ejected for deliberately headbutting Hatcher well after the play was over and well away from the ball. But that's Whitfield getting involved in the heat of the moment according to Aikman.

We are not too far off from an opposing RB pulling a "Last Boy Scout" and Aikman claiming it was perfect self defense.



YAKUZA
 
Cowboy Bill Watts;1207872 said:
i'm glad it wasn't just me. he just talks too much in a business where less is more sometimes...

He actually used to talk a lot less and that's what was great about him in that he only provided information when it was needed. It's obvious that Fox has put into his head that they want him talking more. I don't have a problem with his analysis in general (although he can't read coverages now for some reason), but his commentary in Cowboys games is borderline ludicrous.

It's really an issue with the sports media. Too much opinions feeling that they counter each other and provide balanced journalism. All it really does is lead to bad journalism or analysis or reporting or commentary. Give me facts and unbiased any day of the week.


YAKUZA
 
What I find interesting is that so many people pay attention to what the play-by-play and/or color guy is saying during the game. I swear I can't recall a thing any of them say during the game. I'm more focused on what's going on on the field. It's rare when I listen that closely to what any of them say.

As for Gramatica, I'll wait before I jump on his bandwagon. I remember everyone was so geeked last year when Cundiff came back from his injury and he hit a 50 yarder, I think. Gramatica did good, but I want to see him do it again...and again...and again.

Same thing I wanted to see from Romo. He did it and so far he's showing me the money.
 
Yakuza Rich;1207878 said:
He's not paid to stick up for the opponent on nearly every call or non-call either. C'mon, sticking up for Plaxico on the penalty he had on Keith Davis was tremendously awful. There's no if's and's or but's about it.

Not to mention I don't see how Whitfield wasn't ejected for deliberately headbutting Hatcher well after the play was over and well away from the ball. But that's Whitfield getting involved in the heat of the moment according to Aikman.

We are not too far off from an opposing RB pulling a "Last Boy Scout" and Aikman claiming it was perfect self defense.



YAKUZA

I have seen many people head butt other players and they have not been ejected from the game unless it turned worse.

What he said was a heat of the moment thing for Whitfield...stupid yes but a heat of the moment thing. If it had been a cowboys player doing the head butting and Aikman said the same heat of the moment thing, nobody would have a problem with it.

From what I recall him talking about Plex it was because people last week (strahan and NY Fans) were ragging on Plex for quitting too soon, this time he was stupid and kept going.

The ONLY point I remember him saying was he was just trying to not quit.

I am sorry the bottom line I see is people mad because Troy does not act like Irvin and being a superhomer while calling a game.

To many people getting their knickers in a twist.

But I would bet good money that if theezman was calling a game for the skins and being super homer on them people would get mad.

Honestly I never have understood why so many people get so upset over announcers. They always have the option of just putting them on mute.

Boohoo Troy is not being a Homer when he calls games.
 
SultanOfSix;1207805 said:
Aikman has taken the opposite stance of Irvin in that he's trying way too hard to not appear to be a homer for the Cowboys. There were a lot of things he said that just made me think that he was just saying certain things to make it look like that, and didn't actually believe what he was saying.

Also, it seems like the commentators get a push by the the powers at be to call the game a certain way. Granted Eli played a little better than he has the past few games, but it seemd like they were trying to pamper his fragile psyche with the comments they made.

I read a book by some announcer, I can't recall who, that said the producers are always feeding them info through those earpieces. Not telling them what to say exactly, but giving them some instructions.
 
BrAinPaiNt;1207916 said:
I have seen many people head butt other players and they have not been ejected from the game unless it turned worse.

What he said was a heat of the moment thing for Whitfield...stupid yes but a heat of the moment thing. If it had been a cowboys player doing the head butting and Aikman said the same heat of the moment thing, nobody would have a problem with it.

From what I recall him talking about Plex it was because people last week (strahan and NY Fans) were ragging on Plex for quitting too soon, this time he was stupid and kept going.

The ONLY point I remember him saying was he was just trying to not quit.

I am sorry the bottom line I see is people mad because Troy does not act like Irvin and being a superhomer while calling a game.

To many people getting their knickers in a twist.

But I would bet good money that if theezman was calling a game for the skins and being super homer on them people would get mad.

Honestly I never have understood why so many people get so upset over announcers. They always have the option of just putting them on mute.

Boohoo Troy is not being a Homer when he calls games.

your wrong BP, you need to listen a little closer to Aikman doing Cowboy games, he's super in love with McNabb, he has an agenda against Roy Williams in coverge, and he is always making up some sort of an excuse when the opponent doesnt succeed on a big play.
 
Yakuza Rich;1207878 said:
He's not paid to stick up for the opponent on nearly every call or non-call either. C'mon, sticking up for Plaxico on the penalty he had on Keith Davis was tremendously awful. There's no if's and's or but's about it.

YAKUZA


Hey you play to the whistle man, and I didn't hear one.
 
MichaelWinicki;1207730 said:
Nice analysis Rich.

I'm sick of Keith Davis.

Let's go back to Watkins-- NOW!

BrAinPaiNt;1207735 said:
Keith Davis should be on ST and be a backup SS instead of being a starting FS.

I hope Watkins pans out over the course of the year or we will wind up trying someone else in that position next year.

MichaelWinicki;1207763 said:
I thought Watkins had a much better feel for angles. Davis doesn't have a clue... not a clue. And at least Watkins would chip in with a turnover once in a while.

agreed... Keith is horrible...I mean just horrible
 
baj1dallas;1208010 said:
Hey you play to the whistle man, and I didn't hear one.

The refs did and correctly penalized Burress for it. But somehow Plax was getting screwed according to Troy.




YAKUZA
 
Yakuza Rich;1207709 said:
- MARRRRTEEEEEEEEN!
- Troy Aikman is too annoying to listen to on Cowboys games. It was ridiculous to hear him try to defend Plaxico Burress for trucking Keith Davis well after the play was over, miss a blatant hold on a Ayodele blitz and then claim that Romo made a forward pass. Are we sure Troy actually played for Dallas in his career?
YAKUZA

Wow, I see you and others in this thread attcking Aikman's comments and nothing is done where as my thread and at least another one I know of were pulled out of the board for some reason.

I agree with you that Aikman does that, I think that he is affraid of people accusing him of being biased. In my thread that was taken off the board, somone said it was because of the Thanksgiving day 5-TDs Romo threw. I personally don't think so.
 
CowboyChris;1207986 said:
your wrong BP, you need to listen a little closer to Aikman doing Cowboy games, he's super in love with McNabb, he has an agenda against Roy Williams in coverge, and he is always making up some sort of an excuse when the opponent doesnt succeed on a big play.

Actually no I DON'T need to listen to him closer.

So he likes McNabb...so what is that a crime, does that mean he hates the cowboys because he likes McNabb.

Good Grief he was Gushing about Romo in that last game as well, does that means he hates the cowboys as well.

Crazy.

Roy Williams, whether people like it or not, is a problem in coverage. He gets his fair share of take aways but he also has his fair share of people catching passes against him.

It is his job, commentator, to comment on the game, if part of that is to describe why he feels a team did not make a big play...so be it.

All of that does not add up to him hating the cowboys....instead what I see is it adding up to him not being a homer and people getting their knickers in a twist because he is not.
 
DCfaninDC;1208046 said:
Wow, I see you and others in this thread attcking Aikman's comments and nothing is done where as my thread and at least another one I know of were pulled out of the board for some reason.
You really should just ask someone or do a search of your posts to find where your thread is located.

If you had, you would've noticed that there had been several Aikman threads posted in a short period of time yesterday and all had been moved to the Opinion Zone. Yours is there and is merged with several others. Check it out.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73001
 
WoodysGirl;1208129 said:
You really should just ask someone or do a search of your posts to find where your thread is located.

If you had, you would've noticed that there had been several Aikman threads posted in a short period of time yesterday and all had been moved to the Opinion Zone. Yours is there and is merged with several others. Check it out.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73001

Thank you for correcting me, didn't know about that. I am so glad that it wasn't taken off just because I expressed my opinion and it was something that not everyone might have liked.
 
khiladi;1207831 said:
I think this game plan was purely Bill Parcells.. Parcells didn't want to get killed by the deep ball, so they played a very conservative game plan... Way too much zone, considering the fragility of Eli Manning... Instead of taking advantage of it, we allowed him to regain some confidence...

According to JJT, the defensive game plan was to play conservative. JJT states in today's DMN (CowboysPlus if anyone has access -- sorry but I get the paper) that Parcells chose to play the younger Manning, who he doesn't respect as much as Peyton, with a coservative four-man rush and very little blitzing.

Regardless, Dallas players were in position to make plays several times but Manning still beat them. He actually played a very good game.

I will agree with YR, though, that the lack of a consistent pass rush will eventually bite this team in the butt.
 
I didn't notice Aikman's commentary that much... I couldn't hear him over my yelling at the Cowboys. My problem with Aikman was that he never mentioned that one of Romo's interceptions was deflected off of Terry Glenn... I think that should have been pointed out. Now that you mention it, he should have called the Plexico hit what it was, "A cheap shot."

Julies Jones stunk it up last night. 2.2 average? And he's supposed to be the "Home Run Threat?" When was the last home run he hit. If this keeps up, we have to get another real runninback to compliment Barbor.

One of the reasons Manning looked good was our pass rush was really weak. The couple of times we blitzed, it looked stunted or delayed or something. I saw one guy come off the edge and first meaninglessly bump a receiver (which accomplished nothing) before trying to get to Manning. I don't know enough to know who was doing what wrong in the secondary. If you say it was Davis, I believe you.

Still, great game. The Giants played with everything they had and had everything at stake (at home) and we still managed a W. That's pretty impressive.
 
Zimmy Lives;1208249 said:
According to JJT, the defensive game plan was to play conservative. JJT states in today's DMN (CowboysPlus if anyone has access -- sorry but I get the paper) that Parcells chose to play the younger Manning, who he doesn't respect as much as Peyton, with a coservative four-man rush and very little blitzing.

Regardless, Dallas players were in position to make plays several times but Manning still beat them. He actually played a very good game.

I will agree with YR, though, that the lack of a consistent pass rush will eventually bite this team in the butt.


Which is my whole issue... They should not have played conservative considering the very nature of Eli Manning... if we had rattled him early, we could have taken him mentally out of the game... even if it meant just in the beginning, and than going a little conservative... Parcells plays way too scared IMO in games like this...

the worst thing you want to do is give him all day to make throws, and grow in confidence... and we did just that... I honestly think the game should never have been this close...
 

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