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I'll try to make this quick, because I could ramble on for days about this. We all know this Cowboys team keeps finding similar ways to lose big games. It's a bobbled snap here, a key penalty there, a touchdown before the half here, a turnover there. But no matter how we do it, it's always something that results in us falling heart-achingly short in a big moment.

My concern isn't so much that these things keep happening, but rather is: How in the world do we change this?

The New York Giants should be a good inspiration for us. They were a team that couldn't deliver but, all of a sudden, could. And they have consistently continued doing so since.

How -- or can we at all? -- turn that switch on to where big games like Sunday's start going in our favor? That Romo doesn't throw the big interception late; that the defense doesn't give up the crippling drive?
 

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I really don't know. Starting to get the distinct feeling that we need an overturn in our coaching staff, but even then I think that will put us through a bit of growing pains.

If we were stuck with those 5-11 Dave Campo Cowboys, it'd be one thing.. but we have so much talent at so many positions that I feel like we're really letting a great opportunity pass us by. Very, very frustrating.
 

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Everybody is at such a loss for a fix that has been haunting the franchise for years. The Giants changed in part because they went from an iron-fisted coach to one who let the players be heard.

We are going from an admitted appeaser to the hammer and human emotions just don't work like that. Is there anything worse than having better talent and not winning and that's where we've been for a long time.

It's a culture that starts at the top. Sadly, I think only when Stephen Jones takes over and hires a GM and Coach will we begin to "feel" it change.
 

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RainMan;2961011 said:
I'll try to make this quick, because I could ramble on for days about this. We all know this Cowboys team keeps finding similar ways to lose big games. It's a bobbled snap here, a key penalty there, a touchdown before the half here, a turnover there. But no matter how we do it, it's always something that results in us falling heart-achingly short in a big moment.

My concern isn't so much that these things keep happening, but rather is: How in the world do we change this?

The New York Giants should be a good inspiration for us. They were a team that couldn't deliver but, all of a sudden, could. And they have consistently continued doing so since.

How -- or can we at all? -- turn that switch on to where big games like Sunday's start going in our favor? That Romo doesn't throw the big interception late; that the defense doesn't give up the crippling drive?

Marshmallow man has to go.

Romo needs to be put on warning and pushed with a young stud waiting in the wings.
 

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RainMan;2961011 said:
I'll try to make this quick, because I could ramble on for days about this. We all know this Cowboys team keeps finding similar ways to lose big games. It's a bobbled snap here, a key penalty there, a touchdown before the half here, a turnover there. But no matter how we do it, it's always something that results in us falling heart-achingly short in a big moment.

My concern isn't so much that these things keep happening, but rather is: How in the world do we change this?

The New York Giants should be a good inspiration for us. They were a team that couldn't deliver but, all of a sudden, could. And they have consistently continued doing so since.

How -- or can we at all? -- turn that switch on to where big games like Sunday's start going in our favor? That Romo doesn't throw the big interception late; that the defense doesn't give up the crippling drive?

Sorry to say you need a better Head Coach one that demands it and works his players hard.

I know a lot of people hound Parcells did not win one but by the time the talent level was at a spot where we could get tot hat point he was burned out his age caught up plain and simple we saw it that last year he was toast. he knew it to after looking back that is why he hung up the gloves.

Jerry deviated from that style of coach one that calls out his players even in the media sometimes. Does not have to be a screamer or a yeller but one that demands respects, works the players hard.

Wade does not do that period and it shows
 

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The Cowboys are now immersed in a culture of losing. Their only hope for changing this culture is to bring in a new GM. Jerry Jones must completely detach himself from personnel decisions and the daily operations of the franchise, confine his role to marketing, and give the new GM complete power over the front office as well as all matters pertaining to player evaluation and selection.
 

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To be honest, I think too much is being made of one game.

I'm as upset by the loss as anyone else, but it's not like we NEVER win these kind of games. In 2007 we won a few of these nail-biters (@ Buffalo, @ Detroit). Our week 2 win over Philly last year had a similar feel as last night's game, but we came out on top in that one.

You can point out guys who didn't play well and put it on them, but the bottom line is wins and losses. If the ball tipped by Ratliff during the Giants' final drive goes in a different direction, we make the game-clinching INT and the story today is that Romo and the D came up big when they needed to.

There were at least 2 other throws by Eli that were tipped and could've been picked off if the geometry of the deflections was on our side. And we all know about the absurd INT off Witten's heel. Lucky breaks definitely went in NY's favor last night.

Romo played poorly, but he'll bounce back. I'm really not concerned with him. He's the kind of QB who might make a horrendous turnover, but will then follow it up with a brilliant 80 yard TD drive. Garrett's postgame quote regarding Tony (see Hostile's thread) hit the nail on the head.
 

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The problem is the team is used to losing now, very hard to change that mindset.

Only a new HC can do it, Wade is a joke.
 

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RainMan;2961011 said:
I'll try to make this quick, because I could ramble on for days about this. We all know this Cowboys team keeps finding similar ways to lose big games. It's a bobbled snap here, a key penalty there, a touchdown before the half here, a turnover there. But no matter how we do it, it's always something that results in us falling heart-achingly short in a big moment.

My concern isn't so much that these things keep happening, but rather is: How in the world do we change this?

The New York Giants should be a good inspiration for us. They were a team that couldn't deliver but, all of a sudden, could. And they have consistently continued doing so since.

How -- or can we at all? -- turn that switch on to where big games like Sunday's start going in our favor? That Romo doesn't throw the big interception late; that the defense doesn't give up the crippling drive?
It is a valid question. Tiki Barber was a fumbling machine until Coughlin taught him how to hang onto the ball. Remember the Bang cartoons about him fumbling? Classic stuff. Lights do come on for players. Tiki went from 4 years of 9, 8, 9, & 9 fumbles to 5 in Coughlin's 1st year, 1 the next, and 3 his last in the NFL. His last 3 seasons were his most productive as well. For him the light was a change in his technique on holding the ball. Sometimes it is not that easy.

Look at Eli. He was one of the most despised players this forum talked about. Even now you see the photshops of him from that one really bad picture that showed up on the Net. But now he also has 2 threads that I know of where people would take him over Romo. The light came on for him in 2007 and we paid a price. We all kept thinking the INTs were coming back at any moment. They haven't. As strange as it may sound I think that light coming on was the season finale loss to the Patriots. Even though they lost that game, Eli learned something from that game and he has been changed ever since. I don't think he gets enough credit for how good he really is.

We started this season saying they were depleted at WR. Clearly they aren't. Somewhere between last year and this one Steve Smith and Mario Manningham stepped into their roles and now they look confident. The lights came on. What turned them on? At this point we don't know beyond a guess that it is being thrust into the starting roles. Regardless of what it is, they now get it.

I don't partake of the hyperbole that our team is doomed, our players dumb, and incapable of the light coming on. I think all of that is ridiculous mush. The talent is there. Anyone who denies that is bitter and emotional. Anyone who thinks the lights are on already has blinders on and head in sand. It clearly has not.

I'm happy with this squad. I think it's way to soon to be lowering the lifeboats. I also think someone needs to find the light switch and soon. I do think the quickest way to do it is to change Head Coaches. I don't dislike Wade as a person, but he's simply not hard enough on the team to push them to their potential.
 

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RainMan;2961011 said:
I'll try to make this quick, because I could ramble on for days about this. We all know this Cowboys team keeps finding similar ways to lose big games. It's a bobbled snap here, a key penalty there, a touchdown before the half here, a turnover there. But no matter how we do it, it's always something that results in us falling heart-achingly short in a big moment.

My concern isn't so much that these things keep happening, but rather is: How in the world do we change this?

The New York Giants should be a good inspiration for us. They were a team that couldn't deliver but, all of a sudden, could. And they have consistently continued doing so since.

How -- or can we at all? -- turn that switch on to where big games like Sunday's start going in our favor? That Romo doesn't throw the big interception late; that the defense doesn't give up the crippling drive?

You keep fighting to get over the hurdle once you do the confidence of knowing you have done it will help the team in terms of not pressing
 

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Hostile;2961325 said:
It is a valid question. Tiki Barber was a fumbling machine until Coughlin taught him how to hang onto the ball. Remember the Bang cartoons about him fumbling? Classic stuff. Lights do come on for players. Tiki went from 4 years of 9, 8, 9, & 9 fumbles to 5 in Coughlin's 1st year, 1 the next, and 3 his last in the NFL. His last 3 seasons were his most productive as well. For him the light was a change in his technique on holding the ball. Sometimes it is not that easy.

Look at Eli. He was one of the most despised players this forum talked about. Even now you see the photshops of him from that one really bad picture that showed up on the Net. But now he also has 2 threads that I know of where people would take him over Romo. The light came on for him in 2007 and we paid a price. We all kept thinking the INTs were coming back at any moment. They haven't. As strange as it may sound I think that light coming on was the season finale loss to the Patriots. Even though they lost that game, Eli learned something from that game and he has been changed ever since. I don't think he gets enough credit for how good he really is.

We started this season saying they were depleted at WR. Clearly they aren't. Somewhere between last year and this one Steve Smith and Mario Manningham stepped into their roles and now they look confident. The lights came on. What turned them on? At this point we don't know beyond a guess that it is being thrust into the starting roles. Regardless of what it is, they now get it.

I don't partake of the hyperbole that our team is doomed, our players dumb, and incapable of the light coming on. I think all of that is ridiculous mush. The talent is there. Anyone who denies that is bitter and emotional. Anyone who thinks the lights are on already has blinders on and head in sand. It clearly has not.

I'm happy with this squad. I think it's way to soon to be lowering the lifeboats. I also think someone needs to find the light switch and soon. I do think the quickest way to do it is to change Head Coaches. I don't dislike Wade as a person, but he's simply not hard enough on the team to push them to their potential.

Kind of funny all that happen under a very discipline coach one that benched his star wr because he was late a lot. I mean do you think Wade would do something like that ?

The issue starts with leadership at the top spot and I think we are lacking and have been since Big Bill got burned out
 

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thats the million dollar question.

Two veteran coaches of completely opposite philosophies have achieved the same results. (although one had a franchise qb for half a season only)

Its so confusing and frustrating to not only the fans but I believe at this point the coaches, the scouts and the owner.
 

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Kangaroo;2963514 said:
Kind of funny all that happen under a very discipline coach one that benched his star wr because he was late a lot. I mean do you think Wade would do something like that ?

The issue starts with leadership at the top spot and I think we are lacking and have been since Big Bill got burned out
Good observation. I do question however whether Bill was a leader or not. I don't think he was here to win. He was here to protect his legacy. That bothers me.

I am quite sure he and Jerry bumped heads and it burned him out. Heaven knows Jerry would test my patience too.
 

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Hostile;2963555 said:
Good observation. I do question however whether Bill was a leader or not. I don't think he was here to win. He was here to protect his legacy. That bothers me.

I am quite sure he and Jerry bumped heads and it burned him out. Heaven knows Jerry would test my patience too.

I am sure he was but I also think he set this team up to be able to succeed if we brought in the right head coach one who have continued to instill disciple after they left. The sad part is Hostile I think we need a Big Bill at that time in the franchise history due to the Owner/GM.

Once again he moved away from what we had the most success with during the SB years and are 1st success after.
 

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Kangaroo;2963566 said:
I am sure he was but I also think he set this team up to be able to succeed if we brought in the right head coach one who have continued to instill disciple after they left. The sad part is Hostile I think we need a Big Bill at that time in the franchise history due to the Owner/GM.

Once again he moved away from what we had the most success with during the SB years and are 1st success after.
I totally agree that we needed him. I was happier than you can fathom. He was hired on my wife's birthday and I literally told her I got the better gift.

He did some good things here, but I will not pretend 34-32 and walking away the cowardly way he did are acceptable. Other can deify him if they want. I am not buying it. The only good thing I can say about the results from him is that it is better than Campo.

Big damned deal.
 

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Hostile;2963568 said:
I totally agree that we needed him. I was happier than you can fathom. He was hired on my wife's birthday and I literally told her I got the better gift.

He did some good things here, but I will not pretend 34-32 and walking away the cowardly way he did are acceptable. Other can deify him if they want. I am not buying it. The only good thing I can say about the results from him is that it is better than Campo.

Big damned deal.

Two trips to the playoffs was not all bad he did frustrate me at times as well.
I look at the talent he had to work with and where he left it while not perfect but better off than before and heading in the right direction.
 

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Kangaroo;2963587 said:
Two trips to the playoffs was not all bad he did frustrate me at times as well.
I look at the talent he had to work with and where he left it while not perfect but better off than before and heading in the right direction.
I don't understand why his 2 losses are less hated than anyone else's playoff losses. It's mind boggling.

Yeah, we are better off, he did a good job on assembling talent. He did a piss poor job using it.
 

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Kangaroo;2963566 said:
I am sure he was but I also think he set this team up to be able to succeed if we brought in the right head coach one who have continued to instill disciple after they left. The sad part is Hostile I think we need a Big Bill at that time in the franchise history due to the Owner/GM.

Once again he moved away from what we had the most success with during the SB years and are 1st success after.

I'm not sure it needs to be a Big Bill type of HC, but it sure needs to be someone that the players respect.

I am also reminded of the quote - The legendary golfer Gary Player once said, “The more I practice, the luckier I get.” Gary also used all of his golfing equipment to practice. A strange concept at VR at the moemnt.
 

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Hostile;2963593 said:
I don't understand why his 2 losses are less hated than anyone else's playoff losses. It's mind boggling.

Yeah, we are better off, he did a good job on assembling talent. He did a piss poor job using it.

The first trip that team had no business even making the playoffs and no one thought we go back with that team and with QC dumped for Vinny it was over.

The second one was our first trip with a young team you expect them to struggle than progress. I call it expectations of where a team is in their growth curve. The expectations where different for that team than this team the issue is this team still has not made that next step.

I mean the year Dallas made the Playoffs under Jimmy the 1st time I did not expect that team to go far that year in the Playoffs. I consider it a miracle they won a game but that set the expectations and Jimmy got them over the hump. With Bill we got there and when Wade came in the expectations where set and set high they where suppose to be winning playoff games now they where suppose to grow from that playoff experiences like other teams had instead they coughed up a second trip.

It is all about expectations
 
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