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Quick run through a ton of opinions that will vary in popularly. They are worth at least what you pay for them....

Jason Garrett should be demoted/fired/beheaded:
I get the angst with the season and I have always been lukewarm on Redball. He's a good manager type but I hate "process" people. You know when a process works? When the people executing it are good. No amount of process is full proof. See this 2015 season. Nick Saban's process works quite well. Go geta bunch of guys more talented than the other guys then line and beat the lesser talented guys. Solid friggin process but also common sense which is what really works.

All that being said, it serves no one well if you kneejerk and fire a guy you were throwing parades this time last year. Garrett has went from Red-headed Landry to less fun Campo all in one season. Calm down guys, calm down. He is as medicore as he always has been as a Coach. He still knows enough offense to get you middle of the league offensive performances. But he does have some mgmt strengths. But as much as I would be clapping up a storm if he were fired I also realize that would be rather bad for the organization right now(since Sean Payton has committed to another year at least on the Bayou). I give this staff of main performers another year. The lower level coaching positons I'd be looking for upgrades were I Garrett. He's probably not the type but I would be hoping for sparks elsewhere and maybe even a little fan leeway with some new coaching blood at a few positions. I'd ask Jerry to take on/pay hugely Lovie Smith as asst head coach/LB or something to get another defensive guy in the building. Someone Rod can work well with. And after TWill/Street have failed to meet expectations I'd be looking for a WR coach. Our Wr can flat out block but ask someone other than Dez to get open and you better hope they man covered Beas. TWill can get open if you let him run from one side of the field to the other or run a long comeback. But you can forget him and those 3 step drops. Devin Street got open in pre-season once or twice I think. Brice Butler has shown promise as a big guy with good speed but still not sure knows how to run routes or stay healthy.

OMG better RB is the answer:

Sorry guys, but this one is just a non-starter. DMC finished 4th in the league in rushing. Murray got his Coach/GM fired. Running games are about the system/OL and the back. You don't go crazy overpaying backs or drafting them really high. If Lamar Miller wants 4 years 18m.. sign him. But r1 is a no go at RB. You don't go get Lamar Miller claiber WRs/DL/CB/S for 4.5m a year. You gotta draft them or spend 50m. And we won't even talk QB. There are about 20 decent QB in football. 5 more cans who can hold down the fort in a system and another dozen who can play a game or two before they are exposed. Beyond that guys really can't get you through a full game.

We must draft X,Y,Z:
IF Goff is there I agree wiht this sentiment. Other than that it gets down to flavors and value and further evaluation. Goff has passed all the tests. He may fail as a QB ... most do, but he has checked every box and won't be playing any more football before the draft. I believe he is 100% lock to go 1st so he is out of play for us. Moving from 4 to 1 is completely unreasonable for Dallas unless Romo announces his retirement before the draft. Going 4 to 1 is Commanders for RG3 level desperation.
Bosa, Lynch, Tunsil, Treadwell, Hargreaves ...lotsa good players at 4 that various among us will fall in love with. They don't HAVE to pick any of them. They MUST pick a good football player. Busts at 4 haunt you. See CLE.

This is the worst season ever!!!:
It is the worst season compared to expectations in decades. That's totally fair. At the same time this is actually FAR better than those Campo late season, try hard meaningless wins that crept us down the draft. It is like we failed open book tests. You lose 8 out of the first 10 so you know how to lose. Keep doing it! No one cares that you won 4 games if you win a SB a few years later. As bad as this season was, the off-season looks amazing!! Lots of comp picks thanks to letting a zillion people wlak without repalcement last year and VERY high picks every round that matters. Guys were mockign us three 1st round types all last year and were insane.. yet it happened. Collins, Gregory and Jones were all legit R1 mocks. All ended up in Dallas. So crazy happens!!! Now you got 2 picks in top 35 and SHOULD get two R1 guys.

Greg Hardy:
I don't think Greg Hardy is a monster. I think he has been unfairly abused for one bad night where he committed a crime but it was mutually combative and he paid very dearly for that mistake. He may be a bad guy; he may be a good guy. He is likely a mix of both as are 99% of us. Most people if they are honest has done something as stupid or more stupid than what Hardy did that night. He is in the rare percent who must eat that soup sandwich every day, all day years later.

But whether Hardy is a victim or not matters little to me when it comes to the salary cap. If he wants to come back as a value I love him. If he wants too much, he can leave. It really is that simple. He is easily our best DL. But he might not be even next year. And DLaw and Gregory are REAL cheap. 3T is the key position in this defense and with Crawford severely limited by injury, Gregory wasn't that good as a 3T. I give him legit starting DE money but not franchise DL money.

Back up QB:
Dallas is obviously going to alter the position as they did throughout the season. Cassel is very unlikely to come back. If you get an answer in the top 5 that guy is at least the back up next year. After R1 that guy is the #3. Does the team believe in Moore? I like him at the #3 but not the number 2. Arm too limited for me. A guy who plays 16 games has to have a much stronger arm. Btu as 3rd guy who can help break down film and eventually become a QB Coach? I like that.

What about RG3 or Manziel???:

If I am Jerry/Stephen/Will I am going to look at bringing one of those guys in. Being too cocky is not something that scares me, I am scared to death of a lack of talent on the team. The 90's Cowboys were crazy Cocky. So were the 70's Cowboys. They also had plenty of talent. Give me that. McClay should be in charge of evaluating those QBs and with RG3 there should be some medical input. ACLs can take over a year to get right. If right, he might well be the guy. Certainly the one you'd prefer dating your daughter. But both could be success stories as they have talent if healthy and sober and mentally locked in. And what I really do like is my back up QB needs to be able to run a Romo system. He needs to be able to play 1 read ball and then if that read fails he needs to buy time for options 2,3,4 at times. Those break a defense's heart and often turn games around. That is a must yet I can't go get Wilson, Cam, Mariotta or Jameis. And the best athlete at QB in this draft is a Div 2 dude who's played very little QB because of injury and upperclassmen. Maybe he's the next Brady but it might take 4 years to find out and Romo is an old dude in football years. He walks around like a grandpa.

So count me in on Manziel or RG3 even if I know it could end really, really bad. Because it could also end in a Super Bowl or 2. The upside is there.
 

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Quick run through a ton of opinions that will vary in popularly. They are worth at least what you pay for them....

Jason Garrett should be demoted/fired/beheaded:
I get the angst with the season and I have always been lukewarm on Redball. He's a good manager type but I hate "process" people. You know when a process works? When the people executing it are good. No amount of process is full proof. See this 2015 season. Nick Saban's process works quite well. Go geta bunch of guys more talented than the other guys then line and beat the lesser talented guys. Solid friggin process but also common sense which is what really works.

All that being said, it serves no one well if you kneejerk and fire a guy you were throwing parades this time last year. Garrett has went from Red-headed Landry to less fun Campo all in one season. Calm down guys, calm down. He is as medicore as he always has been as a Coach. He still knows enough offense to get you middle of the league offensive performances. But he does have some mgmt strengths. But as much as I would be clapping up a storm if he were fired I also realize that would be rather bad for the organization right now(since Sean Payton has committed to another year at least on the Bayou). I give this staff of main performers another year. The lower level coaching positons I'd be looking for upgrades were I Garrett. He's probably not the type but I would be hoping for sparks elsewhere and maybe even a little fan leeway with some new coaching blood at a few positions. I'd ask Jerry to take on/pay hugely Lovie Smith as asst head coach/LB or something to get another defensive guy in the building. Someone Rod can work well with. And after TWill/Street have failed to meet expectations I'd be looking for a WR coach. Our Wr can flat out block but ask someone other than Dez to get open and you better hope they man covered Beas. TWill can get open if you let him run from one side of the field to the other or run a long comeback. But you can forget him and those 3 step drops. Devin Street got open in pre-season once or twice I think. Brice Butler has shown promise as a big guy with good speed but still not sure knows how to run routes or stay healthy.
OMG better RB is the answer:
Sorry guys, but this one is just a non-starter. DMC finished 4th in the league in rushing. Murray got his Coach/GM fired. Running games are about the system/OL and the back. You don't go crazy overpaying backs or drafting them really high. If Lamar Miller wants 4 years 18m.. sign him. But r1 is a no go at RB. You don't go get Lamar Miller claiber WRs/DL/CB/S for 4.5m a year. You gotta draft them or spend 50m. And we won't even talk QB. There are about 20 decent QB in football. 5 more cans who can hold down the fort in a system and another dozen who can play a game or two before they are exposed. Beyond that guys really can't get you through a full game.

We must draft X,Y,Z:
IF Goff is there I agree wiht this sentiment. Other than that it gets down to flavors and value and further evaluation. Goff has passed all the tests. He may fail as a QB ... most do, but he has checked every box and won't be playing any more football before the draft. I believe he is 100% lock to go 1st so he is out of play for us. Moving from 4 to 1 is completely unreasonable for Dallas unless Romo announces his retirement before the draft. Going 4 to 1 is Commanders for RG3 level desperation.
Bosa, Lynch, Tunsil, Treadwell, Hargreaves ...lotsa good players at 4 that various among us will fall in love with. They don't HAVE to pick any of them. They MUST pick a good football player. Busts at 4 haunt you. See CLE.

This is the worst season ever!!!:
It is the worst season compared to expectations in decades. That's totally fair. At the same time this is actually FAR better than those Campo late season, try hard meaningless wins that crept us down the draft. It is like we failed open book tests. You lose 8 out of the first 10 so you know how to lose. Keep doing it! No one cares that you won 4 games if you win a SB a few years later. As bad as this season was, the off-season looks amazing!! Lots of comp picks thanks to letting a zillion people wlak without repalcement last year and VERY high picks every round that matters. Guys were mockign us three 1st round types all last year and were insane.. yet it happened. Collins, Gregory and Jones were all legit R1 mocks. All ended up in Dallas. So crazy happens!!! Now you got 2 picks in top 35 and SHOULD get two R1 guys.

Greg Hardy:
I don't think Greg Hardy is a monster. I think he has been unfairly abused for one bad night where he committed a crime but it was mutually combative and he paid very dearly for that mistake. He may be a bad guy; he may be a good guy. He is likely a mix of both as are 99% of us. Most people if they are honest has done something as stupid or more stupid than what Hardy did that night. He is in the rare percent who must eat that soup sandwich every day, all day years later.

But whether Hardy is a victim or not matters little to me when it comes to the salary cap. If he wants to come back as a value I love him. If he wants too much, he can leave. It really is that simple. He is easily our best DL. But he might not be even next year. And DLaw and Gregory are REAL cheap. 3T is the key position in this defense and with Crawford severely limited by injury, Gregory wasn't that good as a 3T. I give him legit starting DE money but not franchise DL money.

Back up QB:
Dallas is obviously going to alter the position as they did throughout the season. Cassel is very unlikely to come back. If you get an answer in the top 5 that guy is at least the back up next year. After R1 that guy is the #3. Does the team believe in Moore? I like him at the #3 but not the number 2. Arm too limited for me. A guy who plays 16 games has to have a much stronger arm. Btu as 3rd guy who can help break down film and eventually become a QB Coach? I like that.
What about RG3 or Manziel???:
If I am Jerry/Stephen/Will I am going to look at bringing one of those guys in. Being too cocky is not something that scares me, I am scared to death of a lack of talent on the team. The 90's Cowboys were crazy Cocky. So were the 70's Cowboys. They also had plenty of talent. Give me that. McClay should be in charge of evaluating those QBs and with RG3 there should be some medical input. ACLs can take over a year to get right. If right, he might well be the guy. Certainly the one you'd prefer dating your daughter. But both could be success stories as they have talent if healthy and sober and mentally locked in. And what I really do like is my back up QB needs to be able to run a Romo system. He needs to be able to play 1 read ball and then if that read fails he needs to buy time for options 2,3,4 at times. Those break a defense's heart and often turn games around. That is a must yet I can't go get Wilson, Cam, Mariotta or Jameis. And the best athlete at QB in this draft is a Div 2 dude who's played very little QB because of injury and upperclassmen. Maybe he's the next Brady but it might take 4 years to find out and Romo is an old dude in football years. He walks around like a grandpa.

So count me in on Manziel or RG3 even if I know it could end really, really bad. Because it could also end in a Super Bowl or 2. The upside is there.

Wish I could like this more than once. Pretty much agree, across the board.
 

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Yes!!! - and you talked me into your QB point of view and I'm completely onboard.

Draft a QB in whatever round you like that particular guy, first or fourth, etc -- AND get either RG3 or Manziel on the cheap and let the chips fall where they may. It buys us a lot of house money to see if somebody can be the next quarterback and if they aren't we didn't mortgage the farm with a rookie contract and an incentive laced FA.

I'm offering a letter of recommendation to the front office if you need one.
 

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I still dont think Manziel is going to be cheap. Dont see them getting rid of him for less then a day 2 pick. Even if they draft a QB in the first, teams dont just throw away first round QB. Plus he has been playing reasonably well.

As for Griffin, I wouldn't discount them going after him, but I seriously hope they dont. He has comicly bad field awareness
 

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So count me in on Manziel or RG3 even if I know it could end really, really bad. Because it could also end in a Super Bowl or 2. The upside is there.

You had me until there. I don't see that in any way, shape or form. Might as well include Tebow and have a 3 ring circus running 24/7 at Valley Ranch this off season.
 

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Quick run through a ton of opinions that will vary in popularly. They are worth at least what you pay for them....

Jason Garrett should be demoted/fired/beheaded:
I get the angst with the season and I have always been lukewarm on Redball. He's a good manager type but I hate "process" people. You know when a process works? When the people executing it are good. No amount of process is full proof. See this 2015 season. Nick Saban's process works quite well. Go geta bunch of guys more talented than the other guys then line and beat the lesser talented guys. Solid friggin process but also common sense which is what really works.

All that being said, it serves no one well if you kneejerk and fire a guy you were throwing parades this time last year. Garrett has went from Red-headed Landry to less fun Campo all in one season. Calm down guys, calm down. He is as medicore as he always has been as a Coach. He still knows enough offense to get you middle of the league offensive performances. But he does have some mgmt strengths. But as much as I would be clapping up a storm if he were fired I also realize that would be rather bad for the organization right now(since Sean Payton has committed to another year at least on the Bayou). I give this staff of main performers another year. The lower level coaching positons I'd be looking for upgrades were I Garrett. He's probably not the type but I would be hoping for sparks elsewhere and maybe even a little fan leeway with some new coaching blood at a few positions. I'd ask Jerry to take on/pay hugely Lovie Smith as asst head coach/LB or something to get another defensive guy in the building. Someone Rod can work well with. And after TWill/Street have failed to meet expectations I'd be looking for a WR coach. Our Wr can flat out block but ask someone other than Dez to get open and you better hope they man covered Beas. TWill can get open if you let him run from one side of the field to the other or run a long comeback. But you can forget him and those 3 step drops. Devin Street got open in pre-season once or twice I think. Brice Butler has shown promise as a big guy with good speed but still not sure knows how to run routes or stay healthy.
OMG better RB is the answer:
Sorry guys, but this one is just a non-starter. DMC finished 4th in the league in rushing. Murray got his Coach/GM fired. Running games are about the system/OL and the back. You don't go crazy overpaying backs or drafting them really high. If Lamar Miller wants 4 years 18m.. sign him. But r1 is a no go at RB. You don't go get Lamar Miller claiber WRs/DL/CB/S for 4.5m a year. You gotta draft them or spend 50m. And we won't even talk QB. There are about 20 decent QB in football. 5 more cans who can hold down the fort in a system and another dozen who can play a game or two before they are exposed. Beyond that guys really can't get you through a full game.

We must draft X,Y,Z:
IF Goff is there I agree wiht this sentiment. Other than that it gets down to flavors and value and further evaluation. Goff has passed all the tests. He may fail as a QB ... most do, but he has checked every box and won't be playing any more football before the draft. I believe he is 100% lock to go 1st so he is out of play for us. Moving from 4 to 1 is completely unreasonable for Dallas unless Romo announces his retirement before the draft. Going 4 to 1 is Commanders for RG3 level desperation.
Bosa, Lynch, Tunsil, Treadwell, Hargreaves ...lotsa good players at 4 that various among us will fall in love with. They don't HAVE to pick any of them. They MUST pick a good football player. Busts at 4 haunt you. See CLE.

This is the worst season ever!!!:
It is the worst season compared to expectations in decades. That's totally fair. At the same time this is actually FAR better than those Campo late season, try hard meaningless wins that crept us down the draft. It is like we failed open book tests. You lose 8 out of the first 10 so you know how to lose. Keep doing it! No one cares that you won 4 games if you win a SB a few years later. As bad as this season was, the off-season looks amazing!! Lots of comp picks thanks to letting a zillion people wlak without repalcement last year and VERY high picks every round that matters. Guys were mockign us three 1st round types all last year and were insane.. yet it happened. Collins, Gregory and Jones were all legit R1 mocks. All ended up in Dallas. So crazy happens!!! Now you got 2 picks in top 35 and SHOULD get two R1 guys.

Greg Hardy:
I don't think Greg Hardy is a monster. I think he has been unfairly abused for one bad night where he committed a crime but it was mutually combative and he paid very dearly for that mistake. He may be a bad guy; he may be a good guy. He is likely a mix of both as are 99% of us. Most people if they are honest has done something as stupid or more stupid than what Hardy did that night. He is in the rare percent who must eat that soup sandwich every day, all day years later.

But whether Hardy is a victim or not matters little to me when it comes to the salary cap. If he wants to come back as a value I love him. If he wants too much, he can leave. It really is that simple. He is easily our best DL. But he might not be even next year. And DLaw and Gregory are REAL cheap. 3T is the key position in this defense and with Crawford severely limited by injury, Gregory wasn't that good as a 3T. I give him legit starting DE money but not franchise DL money.

Back up QB:
Dallas is obviously going to alter the position as they did throughout the season. Cassel is very unlikely to come back. If you get an answer in the top 5 that guy is at least the back up next year. After R1 that guy is the #3. Does the team believe in Moore? I like him at the #3 but not the number 2. Arm too limited for me. A guy who plays 16 games has to have a much stronger arm. Btu as 3rd guy who can help break down film and eventually become a QB Coach? I like that.
What about RG3 or Manziel???:
If I am Jerry/Stephen/Will I am going to look at bringing one of those guys in. Being too cocky is not something that scares me, I am scared to death of a lack of talent on the team. The 90's Cowboys were crazy Cocky. So were the 70's Cowboys. They also had plenty of talent. Give me that. McClay should be in charge of evaluating those QBs and with RG3 there should be some medical input. ACLs can take over a year to get right. If right, he might well be the guy. Certainly the one you'd prefer dating your daughter. But both could be success stories as they have talent if healthy and sober and mentally locked in. And what I really do like is my back up QB needs to be able to run a Romo system. He needs to be able to play 1 read ball and then if that read fails he needs to buy time for options 2,3,4 at times. Those break a defense's heart and often turn games around. That is a must yet I can't go get Wilson, Cam, Mariotta or Jameis. And the best athlete at QB in this draft is a Div 2 dude who's played very little QB because of injury and upperclassmen. Maybe he's the next Brady but it might take 4 years to find out and Romo is an old dude in football years. He walks around like a grandpa.

So count me in on Manziel or RG3 even if I know it could end really, really bad. Because it could also end in a Super Bowl or 2. The upside is there.


Agree with everything except the RG3 and the Manziel move.....Don't want a fan base clamouring for a backup QB named RG3 or JF to come in and save the day every time Romo throws a INT or has bad game.....those two washed up QB's are nothing but DRAMA Queens that destroy franchises....other than that Love the post....if you want a family fued watch it on TV not at Valley Ranch....
 

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Very good OP. But I am not sold on Rg3 or JF....too damaged and this team can't fix them, in spite of how good they think their set up is to help players.

Draft a QB in first 2 rounds, and live with that. Let them learn under one of the better NFL QBs.
Groom a fresh young QB with no baggage.
Either have Moore and a FA vet complete for the backup until the draft pick is ready, if not right away.
 

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I enjoy reading your thoughts but wonder if you could elaborate on a few points:

1. After how many years would it no longer be "kneejerking" to demand Garrett's termination? Is he on the hot seat next year whether or not Romo is healthy?

2. Do you not give credence to reports that Hardy lost the support of teammates or do you just not see it as particularly relevant to the success or failure of this team?

3. I agree with your point that the backup QB needs to possess a certain amount of athleticism and improvisational ability to succeed in this system. Is there a price you are unwilling to pay for these two because I don't think either will come cheap and am not sure they are worth the investment based on concerns that others have already raised?
 

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Really enjoyed reading your post, keep it up we've lost some good posters this year.

Good insight into the moves Dallas might make.

Like many here not to keen on Manziel and Griffen just seems broken.
might be wrong
 

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Great post, agree on most of what you wrote. But I would add OC or at least QB coach to replace Wilson------the guy has been there forever and no one has developed other than Romo who happens to improvise on his own to have the success he has had. We need better offensive minds to attack opponents and develope game plans. Agree with the Lovie Smith move.

I also would love to get Goff but I am afraid Frisco will trade up with Tennessee to get Goff and Tennessee still gets their guy at #7. SF wants Goff bad. That would leave the Browns with possibly Lynch and then Dallas is left outside looking in. Guess it may leave Treadwell or Hargreaves as the choice, who knows. Dallas may have no choice but to get Manziel or RGIII as backup and a QB in the 2nd. ---Cook or Wentz, preferably Wentz-----because unfortunately, Romo will not survive the season and the #2 QB will be the key to team success again.
 

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I like most of your thoughts, but Manziel is a lost cause.

Other than the hype he rode from College, there is nothing to be excited about with him. Really, the upside isn't even there. Everything that made JFF special did not and will not translate to the NFL. He's just not physically gifted as an NFL QB, and he is not and probably won't ever be mature enough to handle the job.
 

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I stopped reading at Garrett. Knee Jerk? He has had almost 6 years to prove he is the answer. One winning season in that time tells me he isnt.

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I'm still not sure what makes Garrett a good manager. Hardy was a problem all season, Randle was a clown, Dez had his issues. The Cowboys actually had a lot of management issues this year. If we're talking about how the 'team plays hard' for him, I'd ask what teams didn't play hard this year in the NFL? In today's Not For Long league, you don't really find teams shutting down like the 2010 Cowboys anymore. It's not really a unique trait.
 

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At this point in time, as a fan, I really can't submit a real strength or positive element that Jason Garrett brings to the team as to play...beyond a good sided face for all press conferences. That is with a good or volatile topic...same face. But as to team play, I wouldn't press to scream about last season's sole winning record. Despite a stumble in the sole playoff venture in 2014.
 

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Quick run through a ton of opinions that will vary in popularly. They are worth at least what you pay for them....

Jason Garrett should be demoted/fired/beheaded:
I get the angst with the season and I have always been lukewarm on Redball. He's a good manager type but I hate "process" people. You know when a process works? When the people executing it are good. No amount of process is full proof. See this 2015 season. Nick Saban's process works quite well. Go geta bunch of guys more talented than the other guys then line and beat the lesser talented guys. Solid friggin process but also common sense which is what really works.

Only problem is that good luck trying to out-talent someone else in a NFL with a salary cap, roster limits which impact the ability to overcome injuries and parity. It just won't happen.

Even the better teams can't out-talent anyone and have down years. What passes as a "dynasty" now is equalized by good coaching and strong core philosophies that do not change. That is how New England, Pittsburgh, Green Bay etc. remain competitive year after year. But they are not just overwhelming the rest of their league with their talent. They also out-scheme and out-coach the competition with regularity. They beat the teams that are average in terms of coaching the majority of the time.


OMG better RB is the answer:
Sorry guys, but this one is just a non-starter. DMC finished 4th in the league in rushing. Murray got his Coach/GM fired. Running games are about the system/OL and the back. You don't go crazy overpaying backs or drafting them really high. If Lamar Miller wants 4 years 18m.. sign him. But r1 is a no go at RB. You don't go get Lamar Miller claiber WRs/DL/CB/S for 4.5m a year. You gotta draft them or spend 50m. And we won't even talk QB. There are about 20 decent QB in football. 5 more cans who can hold down the fort in a system and another dozen who can play a game or two before they are exposed. Beyond that guys really can't get you through a full game.

That does not mean that "anyone can run behind this line". Sure they can run and pick up the yards, but we missed the tempo and simple dominance Murray provided. You can state he was burned through last year and is terrible now. I don't necessarily agree, but I can understand the perception. He was a tool in the way we did things.

That does not mean you look at McFadden and figure, okay we're good. You still look for continuous improvement if you really are serious about returning to formula that won 13 games in 2014. I think a Lamar Miller would be a very nice addition. So especially would a strong prospect like Ezekiel Elliott.

We must draft X,Y,Z:
IF Goff is there I agree wiht this sentiment. Other than that it gets down to flavors and value and further evaluation. Goff has passed all the tests. He may fail as a QB ... most do, but he has checked every box and won't be playing any more football before the draft. I believe he is 100% lock to go 1st so he is out of play for us. Moving from 4 to 1 is completely unreasonable for Dallas unless Romo announces his retirement before the draft. Going 4 to 1 is Commanders for RG3 level desperation.
Bosa, Lynch, Tunsil, Treadwell, Hargreaves ...lotsa good players at 4 that various among us will fall in love with. They don't HAVE to pick any of them. They MUST pick a good football player. Busts at 4 haunt you. See CLE.

A bust will also haunt Dallas if this is only time they see this territory. It is an opportunity. That's why I am strongly in favor of taking the QB we think can be a franchise-level replacement for Romo. Could we be wrong and have it bust? Sure. Any player taken in the top five can bust. It is not like historically every top five pick goes on for a strong career. Risk is there since so many people, teams and pundits fall into simplistic consensus thinking.

This is the worst season ever!!!:
It is the worst season compared to expectations in decades. That's totally fair. At the same time this is actually FAR better than those Campo late season, try hard meaningless wins that crept us down the draft. It is like we failed open book tests. You lose 8 out of the first 10 so you know how to lose. Keep doing it! No one cares that you won 4 games if you win a SB a few years later. As bad as this season was, the off-season looks amazing!! Lots of comp picks thanks to letting a zillion people wlak without repalcement last year and VERY high picks every round that matters. Guys were mockign us three 1st round types all last year and were insane.. yet it happened. Collins, Gregory and Jones were all legit R1 mocks. All ended up in Dallas. So crazy happens!!! Now you got 2 picks in top 35 and SHOULD get two R1 guys.

The quality of football offensively was horrific, equivalent to the first year Johnson coached. We just looked completely outmanned because the passing offense was crippled. It made for very painful and frustrating football to watch. Each game rolled out mostly the same and it was so aggravating to see unfold for 14 weeks. Bad thing is, I think they were indeed fighting as advertised and that was still not good enough. To me, it was clear we were missing the boat on opportunities, in games, to sneak a win because we were afraid to lose, not playing to win each game. We were looking for that one big play to be the difference and it never happened. The other team made those back breakers in the close games, which most of them were. That was extremely disappointing and an indictment on the job the coaching staff did. They motivated, but did not cover the details enough to prepare the team. Once we got beat close the first three or four times, we should have been a little more willing to change the game formulas. There were little glimpses (like the Marinelli blitzfest in Washington) but not enough. Opponents pretty much felt comfortable we would allow them to dictate the pace and allow things to unfold consistently.

Greg Hardy:
I don't think Greg Hardy is a monster. I think he has been unfairly abused for one bad night where he committed a crime but it was mutually combative and he paid very dearly for that mistake. He may be a bad guy; he may be a good guy. He is likely a mix of both as are 99% of us. Most people if they are honest has done something as stupid or more stupid than what Hardy did that night. He is in the rare percent who must eat that soup sandwich every day, all day years later.

But whether Hardy is a victim or not matters little to me when it comes to the salary cap. If he wants to come back as a value I love him. If he wants too much, he can leave. It really is that simple. He is easily our best DL. But he might not be even next year. And DLaw and Gregory are REAL cheap. 3T is the key position in this defense and with Crawford severely limited by injury, Gregory wasn't that good as a 3T. I give him legit starting DE money but not franchise DL money.

Give him a reasonable and fair offer considering what we had to tolerate (i.e. more team friendly and "prove it) and the choice is his. Simple as that. If not, thanks for the memories.

Back up QB:
Dallas is obviously going to alter the position as they did throughout the season. Cassel is very unlikely to come back. If you get an answer in the top 5 that guy is at least the back up next year. After R1 that guy is the #3. Does the team believe in Moore? I like him at the #3 but not the number 2. Arm too limited for me. A guy who plays 16 games has to have a much stronger arm. Btu as 3rd guy who can help break down film and eventually become a QB Coach? I like that.

Best case scenario: draft Romo's replacement high and install as the number two and a half. Moore could be the "backup" but he will not be sustainable. Worst case scenario: Acquire Manziel or Griffin and create drama where we need stability and squander a chance at a potential franchise QB. And oh yeah, please devote some resources to coaching the QB position. Romo has basically been his own coach for too long and it is unfair to expect him to be the QB coach for his replacement. Bring in one of these veterans and half the battle will be breaking some serious bad habits each has.
What about RG3 or Manziel???:
If I am Jerry/Stephen/Will I am going to look at bringing one of those guys in. Being too cocky is not something that scares me, I am scared to death of a lack of talent on the team. The 90's Cowboys were crazy Cocky. So were the 70's Cowboys. They also had plenty of talent. Give me that. McClay should be in charge of evaluating those QBs and with RG3 there should be some medical input. ACLs can take over a year to get right. If right, he might well be the guy. Certainly the one you'd prefer dating your daughter. But both could be success stories as they have talent if healthy and sober and mentally locked in. And what I really do like is my back up QB needs to be able to run a Romo system. He needs to be able to play 1 read ball and then if that read fails he needs to buy time for options 2,3,4 at times. Those break a defense's heart and often turn games around. That is a must yet I can't go get Wilson, Cam, Mariotta or Jameis. And the best athlete at QB in this draft is a Div 2 dude who's played very little QB because of injury and upperclassmen. Maybe he's the next Brady but it might take 4 years to find out and Romo is an old dude in football years. He walks around like a grandpa.

So count me in on Manziel or RG3 even if I know it could end really, really bad. Because it could also end in a Super Bowl or 2. The upside is there.

The issue with that is getting one of them pretty much shoots the idea of drafting a QB down severely. They would be viewed as "extra draft picks" and then they would move on to whatever leak in the dam they think they can plug with a finger.

Good thoughts and good thread, BTW.
 

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First thanks for the nice notes where they exist.
As I tend to do I'll focus on the controversial or debatable stuff.

Johnny/RG3: Let me be clear in that you'd RATHER have other guys I listed or even go get Goff but I am assuming that is out totally.
I also dont want to feel FORCED to take Lynch. I have 2 QBs under contract so need a 3rd. I don't see the guy out there right now beyond those 2.
And if I enter the draft with Romo/Moore/Showers... the pressure to reach at QB is insane!

I can't pay the going rate at QB so I need a reclamation project. I am accepting of that reality.
Low risk/High reward? I'm in even at long odds.
And I love buying low and selling high.
I am not paying anything of note to get either guy.

They both BADLY want to be here so they can have a make good contract in RG3's case and I'd offer CLE a warm bucket of soup for Johnny. No one is giving a 3 and they need him gone. The CLE media is literally staking out the dudes house int he off-season knocking on doors. That's not gonna end well. **Note to Johnny. Gated community with security or live on 2+ acres.

Tebow? Tebow can not throw the football. He's no different than adding me except I'd be a lot happier holding that clipboard and getting paid 500k to do so. Johnny and RG3 both have way more talent.

Circus? Welcome to Cowboys football, you must be new here.
 

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Johnny/RG3: Let me be clear in that you'd RATHER have other guys I listed or even go get Goff but I am assuming that is out totally.
I also dont want to feel FORCED to take Lynch. I have 2 QBs under contract so need a 3rd. I don't see the guy out there right now beyond those 2.
And if I enter the draft with Romo/Moore/Showers... the pressure to reach at QB is insane!

If they do their homework on Lynch and feel he is a franchise player, I am fine with taking him. We have one and a half QBs under contract. I do not view Moore as worth considering a complete player as a legitimate backup.

Skip QB in the first, then take one later. I think this idea that this is just the worst QB draft ever is taking a life of its own that might not necessarily be true.
 
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