My Thoughts Draft needs

[LatinMind]

With Gilmore and Cooks traded for and add in Vander, and those 3 needs you can take off of the need at 26. That leaves G, RB, as the biggest needs. Well NT but we all know they'll never draft one this early if it all. As much as media is saying TE the only TE worth a RD1 pick is Mayer. The rest are big reaches. The game tape doesn't match the combine. They play limited and need alot of development. There is way better value later with guys like Kraft and Lachlan. Kraft interests me the most. If he was in the SEC he'd be aTop 15 pick IMO.

So that leaves G, and RB of course BPA , but if Bijan is there he'd clearly be the BPA.

GUARDS
ROUND1
O'Cyrus Torrence
John Michael Schmitz
ROUND2
Steve Avila

IMO Dallas would have to draft Torrence or Schmitz in round 1, reach a little for Schmitz because he won't be there probably going early 2nd. I'd prefer Schmitz because oof his pass blocking. His run game needs a little work but it's easier to coach that than pass blocking which Torrence needs help with. That and his ability to play C. His knock are the shorter arms.

Then there's RB, Bijan Robinson. Do you take the best player in the draft, or pass up a a star because media tells you dont draft iRbs in round 1. IMO if he's there I think Dallas locksnin and takes a guy like Avila in round 2.

When it's all said and done, you ant pass on elite talent. Are the 2 guards so much better than Avila? Are the TEs even first rounders? If Bijan is there at 26, with what the team has done in FA Bijan is the easy choice IMO.

 

[USArmyVet]

With Gilmore and Cooks traded for and add in Vander, and those 3 needs you can take off of the need at 26. That leaves G, RB, as the biggest needs. Well NT but we all know they'll never draft one this early if it all. As much as media is saying TE the only TE worth a RD1 pick is Mayer. The rest are big reaches. The game tape doesn't match the combine. They play limited and need alot of development. There is way better value later with guys like Kraft and Lachlan. Kraft interests me the most. If he was in the SEC he'd be aTop 15 pick IMO.

So that leaves G, and RB of course BPA , but if Bijan is there he'd clearly be the BPA.

GUARDS
ROUND1
O'Cyrus Torrence
John Michael Schmitz
ROUND2
Steve Avila

IMO Dallas would have to draft Torrence or Schmitz in round 1, reach a little for Schmitz because he won't be there probably going early 2nd. I'd prefer Schmitz because oof his pass blocking. His run game needs a little work but it's easier to coach that than pass blocking which Torrence needs help with. That and his ability to play C. His knock are the shorter arms.

Then there's RB, Bijan Robinson. Do you take the best player in the draft, or pass up a a star because media tells you dont draft iRbs in round 1. IMO if he's there I think Dallas locksnin and takes a guy like Avila in round 2.

When it's all said and done, you ant pass on elite talent. Are the 2 guards so much better than Avila? Are the TEs even first rounders? If Bijan is there at 26, with what the team has done in FA Bijan is the easy choice IMO.

In no way would Dallas ever consider doing this but given their current draft grades are the 1st and 2nd rounds, can you imagine if Dallas went:

1st round: OG O'Cyrus Torrence 6' 4" 347 pounds of mauler with immediate starting LG skills

2nd round: OG/C Steve Avila 6' 3" 332 pounds of strong lineman who can start at center and has the ability to play OG as well (Zack Martin is not getting any younger)

Dallas would instantly reset their OL for years to come with LT Tyler Smith (6' 6" 332 pounds), LG Torrence (6' 4" 347 pounds), C Avila (6' 3" 332 pounds).....that is a great young group that tops the scales at over 1,100 pounds!!!!

 

[blueblood70]

With Gilmore and Cooks traded for and add in Vander, and those 3 needs you can take off of the need at 26. That leaves G, RB, as the biggest needs. Well NT but we all know they'll never draft one this early if it all. As much as media is saying TE the only TE worth a RD1 pick is Mayer. The rest are big reaches. The game tape doesn't match the combine. They play limited and need alot of development. There is way better value later with guys like Kraft and Lachlan. Kraft interests me the most. If he was in the SEC he'd be aTop 15 pick IMO.

So that leaves G, and RB of course BPA , but if Bijan is there he'd clearly be the BPA.

GUARDS
ROUND1
O'Cyrus Torrence
John Michael Schmitz
ROUND2
Steve Avila

IMO Dallas would have to draft Torrence or Schmitz in round 1, reach a little for Schmitz because he won't be there probably going early 2nd. I'd prefer Schmitz because oof his pass blocking. His run game needs a little work but it's easier to coach that than pass blocking which Torrence needs help with. That and his ability to play C. His knock are the shorter arms.

Then there's RB, Bijan Robinson. Do you take the best player in the draft, or pass up a a star because media tells you dont draft iRbs in round 1. IMO if he's there I think Dallas locksnin and takes a guy like Avila in round 2.

When it's all said and done, you ant pass on elite talent. Are the 2 guards so much better than Avila? Are the TEs even first rounders? If Bijan is there at 26, with what the team has done in FA Bijan is the easy choice IMO.

sorry don't know the players but no way im reaching for player who has issues with opening holes in the run, rather teach pass blocking but have a day 1 natural mauler at lG for the run game. Its what weve been missing we keep getting these light in the arse guards cwill, and McGovern in an attempt to have pullers etc , i want a true run first guy and get him up to speed at pass blocking. Biadsz also but light in the butt so that the issue over on the left side of late both are not physical enough and paired together is killing the run game..teams know our best side was steele and martin so they knew it was coming..lets stick with a physcal LG..

 

[Acceptablename]

If it were possible to grab Robinson and Avila in the first two rounds. I would dedicate the rest of the draft to defense oh happy day

 

[CowboyFrog]

In no way would Dallas ever consider doing this but given their current draft grades are the 1st and 2nd rounds, can you imagine if Dallas went:

1st round: OG O'Cyrus Torrence 6' 4" 347 pounds of mauler with immediate starting LG skills

2nd round: OG/C Steve Avila 6' 3" 332 pounds of strong lineman who can start at center and has the ability to play OG as well (Zack Martin is not getting any younger)

Dallas would instantly reset their OL for years to come with LT Tyler Smith (6' 6" 332 pounds), LG Torrence (6' 4" 347 pounds), C Avila (6' 3" 332 pounds).....that is a great young group that tops the scales at over 1,100 pounds!!!!

If they cant get a DT worth the pick then this would be fine by me.

 

[gtb1943]

With Gilmore and Cooks traded for and add in Vander, and those 3 needs you can take off of the need at 26. That leaves G, RB, as the biggest needs. Well NT but we all know they'll never draft one this early if it all. As much as media is saying TE the only TE worth a RD1 pick is Mayer. The rest are big reaches. The game tape doesn't match the combine. They play limited and need alot of development. There is way better value later with guys like Kraft and Lachlan. Kraft interests me the most. If he was in the SEC he'd be aTop 15 pick IMO.

So that leaves G, and RB of course BPA , but if Bijan is there he'd clearly be the BPA.

GUARDS
ROUND1
O'Cyrus Torrence
John Michael Schmitz
ROUND2
Steve Avila

IMO Dallas would have to draft Torrence or Schmitz in round 1, reach a little for Schmitz because he won't be there probably going early 2nd. I'd prefer Schmitz because oof his pass blocking. His run game needs a little work but it's easier to coach that than pass blocking which Torrence needs help with. That and his ability to play C. His knock are the shorter arms.

Then there's RB, Bijan Robinson. Do you take the best player in the draft, or pass up a a star because media tells you dont draft iRbs in round 1. IMO if he's there I think Dallas locksnin and takes a guy like Avila in round 2.

When it's all said and done, you ant pass on elite talent. Are the 2 guards so much better than Avila? Are the TEs even first rounders? If Bijan is there at 26, with what the team has done in FA Bijan is the easy choice IMO.

I really do not think they will draft a RB high; the presence of Pollard I think means the clown show is going to ride him into the ground. A rb will come late in the draft.

Agree that Gillmore and Cook means that CB and WR will not come early.

We need a guard for sure; but will they be willing to go high? I doubt it; a 2nd is the best hope I can see of them doing it

TE- I agree on Mayer; the only true TE that is high in the draft - he is a road grader run blocking and really gets it done receiving.

agree also that DT will be not taken high; the myopia of the clown show on that position is beyond understanding.

As regards taking a player that needs work on either run or pass blocking I am kind of torn. I think our problem has been simply that we pick too many O linemen who CANNOT ANCHOR; we are so fixated on pulling and moving and neglect the FACT that the FIRST THING any OL should be able to do is either hold his position on pass blocking or fire forward on run blocking. We get guys who are quick but in the end cannot do those critical things.

 

[blueblood70]

I really do not think they will draft a RB high; the presence of Pollard I think means the clown show is going to ride him into the ground. A rb will come late in the draft.

Agree that Gillmore and Cook means that CB and WR will not come early.

We need a guard for sure; but will they be willing to go high? I doubt it; a 2nd is the best hope I can see of them doing it

TE- I agree on Mayer; the only true TE that is high in the draft - he is a road grader run blocking and really gets it done receiving.

agree also that DT will be not taken high; the myopia of the clown show on that position is beyond understanding.

As regards taking a player that needs work on either run or pass blocking I am kind of torn. I think our problem has been simply that we pick too many O linemen who CANNOT ANCHOR; we are so fixated on pulling and moving and neglect the FACT that the FIRST THING any OL should be able to do is either hold his position on pass blocking or fire forward on run blocking. We get guys who are quick but in the end cannot do those critical things.

that what i said above LOL light in the arse.. too many guys drafted to pull i want a heavy Arse player like Big Bill B says..the big uglies need a large rump or hes not considered LOL

 

[btcutter]

With Gilmore and Cooks traded for and add in Vander, and those 3 needs you can take off of the need at 26. That leaves G, RB, as the biggest needs. Well NT but we all know they'll never draft one this early if it all. As much as media is saying TE the only TE worth a RD1 pick is Mayer. The rest are big reaches. The game tape doesn't match the combine. They play limited and need alot of development. There is way better value later with guys like Kraft and Lachlan. Kraft interests me the most. If he was in the SEC he'd be aTop 15 pick IMO.

So that leaves G, and RB of course BPA , but if Bijan is there he'd clearly be the BPA.

GUARDS
ROUND1
O'Cyrus Torrence
John Michael Schmitz
ROUND2
Steve Avila

IMO Dallas would have to draft Torrence or Schmitz in round 1, reach a little for Schmitz because he won't be there probably going early 2nd. I'd prefer Schmitz because oof his pass blocking. His run game needs a little work but it's easier to coach that than pass blocking which Torrence needs help with. That and his ability to play C. His knock are the shorter arms.

Then there's RB, Bijan Robinson. Do you take the best player in the draft, or pass up a a star because media tells you dont draft iRbs in round 1. IMO if he's there I think Dallas locksnin and takes a guy like Avila in round 2.

When it's all said and done, you ant pass on elite talent. Are the 2 guards so much better than Avila? Are the TEs even first rounders? If Bijan is there at 26, with what the team has done in FA Bijan is the easy choice IMO.

I thought the strength of JMS is run blocking not pass pro? He may be someone hit him right away worst case he would take over C next year.
Avila seems like a reach around one. I worry about G with no mobility such as Cyress.

 

[morasp]

This may change later but as of today my priority would be

Robinson
Sanders
Schmitz
Bergeron (move him to OG with swing tackle ability) Needs work on technique similar to Tyler last year.

"He’s a dynamic run blocker, able to excel in all three phases (positioning, sustain and finish). He’s just as capable of climbing and tagging second-level linebackers as he is at opening run lanes at the point of attack with leg drive."

"Bergeron’s scheme-versatile, Pro Bowl-caliber run-blocking potential might hasten a team’s decision to move him inside."

Torence
Gibbs
Avila

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

If you draft a G, who is your starting lineup?

Is one of Tyron, Steele, Martin, or Tyler Smith coming off the bench?

 

[kiheikiwi]

While I agree mostly with the premise of this thread - I do have a couple of questions.
Because the draft is so deep at quality RB. I would skip Robinson at 26. There are multiple backs to compliment Pollard in the 3rd/4th round I would be all over.
I want Someone in the F.O. to day definitively what position Smith is - and leave him there ! Is he our starting L.T. for the next 10 years ? Or our starting L.G. for the same.
I don't want to see another Tyrone Crawford position yeo yeo. Pick his position and let him learn/play it with no distractions.
That would let us know are we looking for a tackle or a guard. I think there will.be tackles at 26, but just the one guard - Torrance (who I'm all for) 2nd and 3rd. Round I don't know if any of the quality guards will still be available at our picks. So I'd just take Torrance and move on - if he's still there.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Current needs:

Starters - NT, 3T, TE, Center
Depth - QB, RB, Edge, IOL, OT, WR
Extensions - Diggs, CD, Hooker

 

[kiheikiwi]

If you draft a G, who is your starting lineup?

Is one of Tyron, Steele, Martin, or Tyler Smith coming off the bench?

Yep, Tyron will fill in for Steele if he can't start the season, and he becomes our swing. It's why he restructured his contract and prolonged his career.

 

[nathanlt]

With Gilmore and Cooks traded for and add in Vander, and those 3 needs you can take off of the need at 26. That leaves G, RB, as the biggest needs. Well NT but we all know they'll never draft one this early if it all. As much as media is saying TE the only TE worth a RD1 pick is Mayer. The rest are big reaches. The game tape doesn't match the combine. They play limited and need alot of development. There is way better value later with guys like Kraft and Lachlan. Kraft interests me the most. If he was in the SEC he'd be aTop 15 pick IMO.

So that leaves G, and RB of course BPA , but if Bijan is there he'd clearly be the BPA.

GUARDS
ROUND1
O'Cyrus Torrence
John Michael Schmitz
ROUND2
Steve Avila

IMO Dallas would have to draft Torrence or Schmitz in round 1, reach a little for Schmitz because he won't be there probably going early 2nd. I'd prefer Schmitz because oof his pass blocking. His run game needs a little work but it's easier to coach that than pass blocking which Torrence needs help with. That and his ability to play C. His knock are the shorter arms.

Then there's RB, Bijan Robinson. Do you take the best player in the draft, or pass up a a star because media tells you dont draft iRbs in round 1. IMO if he's there I think Dallas locksnin and takes a guy like Avila in round 2.

When it's all said and done, you ant pass on elite talent. Are the 2 guards so much better than Avila? Are the TEs even first rounders? If Bijan is there at 26, with what the team has done in FA Bijan is the easy choice IMO.

If Bijan were gone, would you go with Gibbs instead? I'd certainly consider that! I think the Cowboys should maneuver so as to get 2 picks in the range 32 to 41.

 

[cnuball21]

What we’ve done in FA shouldn’t change how we draft…we should stick to BPA at a money position in round 1.

Aka do not take a RB or G especially considering there are no elite Gs in this class.

 

[gtb1943]

Current needs:

Starters - NT, 3T, TE, Center
Depth - QB, RB, Edge, IOL, OT, WR
Extensions - Diggs, CD, Hooker

The boys will give Biadazz one more year; he took a significant step forward this year. 3T will depend on whether they keep Hankins.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

The boys will give Biadazz one more year; he took a significant step forward this year. 3T will depend on whether they keep Hankins.

Hankins is a 1T

I didn't notice the improvement with Badass

 

[gtb1943]

Hankins is a 1T

I didn't notice the improvement with Badass

THEN to be blunt you are blind. HE definitely improved this season

As regards Hankins, he can play either tackle slot.

BUT getting a true NT would allow him to play the position he is more suited to.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

THEN to be blunt you are blind. HE definitely improved this season

As regards Hankins, he can play either tackle slot.

BUT getting a true NT would allow him to play the position he is more suited to.

To be blunt with you, Hankins is a 1T and you have no clue what you're talking about if you think he can play 3T. He's a 345 pound run stopper, with limited pass rush effectiveness.

 

[LatinMind]

I thought the strength of JMS is run blocking not pass pro? He may be someone hit him right away worst case he would take over C next year.
Avila seems like a reach around one. I worry about G with no mobility such as Cyress.

It's not a weakness but it's there. He gets off balance at times because of the shorter arms. Coaching up his footwork will do him just right.

He's alot more polished than O'cyrus. Only reason he's rated higher is because of Schmitz arm length. Kinda like Martins arm length was talked about. Only difference is Martin had great footwork already.

I really like Avila in RD2