My Thoughts On The QB Class

darthseinfeld

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I messed up that sentence. It should read "you start off saying this is a good qb class....but then the rest of your reasoning disagrees with your assertion."

This isn't a good qb class and everything you wrote shows exactly why.

If you want tons of flawless QB's then its not there isn't an elite #1 overall guy. If you want to be able to pick a prospect capable of being a starting QB in the NFL this is as rather deep class even thougb its tier 2 heavy. All QB prospects, even the top ones have there flaws, and Im just trying to point out some of the flaws as well as strengths of the players in this class that have the ability to be a starting QB in the NFL
 

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I messed up that sentence. It should read "you start off saying this is a good qb class....but then the rest of your reasoning disagrees with your assertion."

This isn't a good qb class and everything you wrote shows exactly why.

There are very few "good ones". If you need one and want to wait for the "good one" to make your move, good luck with that.
 

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There are very few "good ones". If you need one and want to wait for the "good one" to make your move, good luck with that.

Yeah....just taking one to take one...good luck with that...

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In my opinion every qb have their flaws. If anyone ever read Brady's scouting report you would be surprise that he has gone to 6 SB in his career. The two things that can not be accounted for is a player's heart and desire to be the best. That is what I would be looking for in a player especially a qb.
 

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In my opinion every qb have their flaws. If anyone ever read Brady's scouting report you would be surprise that he has gone to 6 SB in his career. The two things that can not be accounted for is a player's heart and desire to be the best. That is what I would be looking for in a player especially a qb.

Something that scares me with Cook and Hackenberg. I dont know these guys personally, but from reports Ive seen there football character might not be what you want out of a starting QB
 

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There are very few "good ones". If you need one and want to wait for the "good one" to make your move, good luck with that.

No kidding.

I'm too lazy (or stupid) to figure it out, but what are the odds of being the one team out of 32 teams to get the top draft pick, after a lousy season, when the unanimous #1 pick is a QB and not another position? Talk about having all the stars align.

Heck, if some of our Nostradamus-type fans can pinpoint the absolute, correct year to tank the season in order to get the pick, so we can be in position to take a Aikman/Manning-type in the following draft, then please call up Jerry and let him know.

While you're at it, please let me know the winning lottery numbers as well.

I think if were up to some fans, we'd never draft a QB, because nearly ever year is a "bad QB draft."
 
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Still curious what people consider a "good QB draft".

Well, 1983, of course.

We all know those type drafts come around all the time, so we should wait for one of those drafts before finally addressing the QB position.

Besides, Romo's gonna play for five more years anyway.
 

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Still curious what people consider a "good QB draft".

Drafts where there are qbs who are being considered for the number 1 spot...not because of the position they play but because of their innate talent.
 

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Drafts where there are qbs who are being considered for the number 1 spot...not because of the position they play but because of their innate talent.

again you make the same argument and it till doesnt make sense.was last year a good QB draft class? .what about 2014?.even if Luck was available this year we wouldnt have a shot at him because we dont pick first.so that argument is just hogwash to me.
 

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again you make the same argument and it till doesnt make sense.was last year a good QB draft class? .what about 2014?.even if Luck was available this year we wouldnt have a shot at him because we dont pick first.so that argument is just hogwash to me.

No. It wasn't considered a particularly strong draft after the evaluation period.

And we saw that...only 1 guy went in the top 10.

What is confusing you?
 

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Luck was the unanimous #1 pick in his draft, and yet, there are some fans who say he's too erratic and bordering on becoming a bust. I, personally, would take him in a heartbeat.

But according to some here, if he's a borderline bust and, yet, was unanimous #1 pick, doesn't that also make his draft a "bad QB draft?"

If so, then I think we'd have a better shot at finding a franchise QB in UDFA (read: another Romo) than waiting for some mythical "good QB draft."
 

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No. It wasn't considered a particularly strong draft after the evaluation period.

And we saw that...only 1 guy went in the top 10.

What is confusing you?

my point is unless you have a top pick your shot of getting this mythical super QB is virtually zero,you draft a QB who you think has all the tools and a great mental makeup and let him learn and a added bonus is that he doesnt have to start here .he can watch Romo for a 1-2 years.
 

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Yeah....just taking one to take one...good luck with that...

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Bad example...not all of these QB's were even drafted by the Browns. Only Couch, Quinn, Weeden, and Manziel were drafted by the Browns in the 1st round over a span of 16 years.
 

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Bad example...not all of these QB's were even drafted by the Browns. Only Couch, Quinn, Weeden, and Manziel were drafted by the Browns in the 1st round over a span of 16 years.

2 in the 1st since 2012. And they are a prime candidate to look at QBs again in the top 5 this year.

Again just taking a guy because you want a qb...is how you mess this whole thing up.
 

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2 in the 1st since 2012. And they are a prime candidate to look at QBs again in the top 5 this year.

Again just taking a guy because you want a qb...is how you mess this whole thing up.

I don't think anyone is advocating that kind of thinking.

I think what most people are saying (myself included) is that if we pick in the top 10 and we have a QB rated in the top 15 players on our board, we need to draft him.

Let's say we pick 7th. If we have a LB rated as the 7th best player on our board and a QB as the 11th best, we need to draft the QB. It's a position of greater future need and we need to start trying to find a guy.

I'm pretty sure that's the only thing that we want. I'm not saying to draft Connor Cook at 7 if we have him rated as the 100th best player.
 
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