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#1 would be Norv Turner. He is great grooming young Qbs and we have one in Tony Romo who has tons of potential. Plus he has HC experience. He was a HC under Danny Snyder who is a disaster to work for and under the AL Davis regime which as we can see now is a black hole for head coaches. I would like to see him get another shot. Plus he could double as our OC and would be one less position we would be in a hurry to fill.

#2 would be Dan Reeves. I heard Drew Pearson say something a few weeks ago about this team losing touch whith it's past. BP had brought guys like Carl Banks and others in to talk about being champions. This organizations has more champions than the old Giants, why not dip into that past. Plus Reeves is another guy who can coach QBs. He did a good job with Elway in Denver. My only concern would be his age and heart health.

Either way, I really want a good DC to come in. One who isn't afraid to make adjustments and adapt to the flow of the game. We didn't have that the last few years. After watching the Colts yesterday, they adapted, made adjustments and in the end, wound up going to the Super Bowl because they were flexible.

Unlike us, who played that "We'll stick with the game plan no matter what the score is" crap.

I wonder if Dick Juron will be available?
 

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Cajuncowboy;1328127 said:
#1 would be Norv Turner. He is great grooming young Qbs

Why is he great at that? Because he took 1 top draft pick and helped him become what you expect top draft picks to become? I hear this all the time, and I'm not being a smart ***, which is surprising, I just really have no idea how he got this rep. I don't see the long line of Norv coached disciples lighting up the league.
 

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superpunk;1328139 said:
Why is he great at that? Because he took 1 top draft pick and helped him become what you expect top draft picks to become? I hear this all the time, and I'm not being a smart ***, which is surprising, I just really have no idea how he got this rep. I don't see the long line of Norv coached disciples lighting up the league.

Well, he is developing Alex Smith right now and he made a mediocre SF offense dangerous with designing game plans that accentuated the teams strengths with Frank Gore and Vernon Davis and so-so O-line. And as I said, he had crap to work with in Wash, and Oakland. At least here he has Romo who has some talnet.

You can't make chicken salad out of chicken crap.
 

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......... and look what gore did in SF:eek:

whoever JJ brings in I hope he's creative and not afraid to take chances..... I want to see the Cowboys beat the crap outta other teams! I hate the ball control, non-aggressive defense, TOP games we've played the last few years!

I want to see some "In your face" try to stop me football!:starspin :starspin
 

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1fisher;1328304 said:
......... and look what gore did in SF:eek:

And that was kinda my point with the Gore reference. Norv knows offense and knows how to get the most out of his offensive players. I think he would be a very solid choice.
 
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Cajuncowboy;1328127 said:
#1 would be Norv Turner. He is great grooming young Qbs and we have one in Tony Romo who has tons of potential. Plus he has HC experience. He was a HC under Danny Snyder who is a disaster to work for and under the AL Davis regime which as we can see now is a black hole for head coaches. I would like to see him get another shot. Plus he could double as our OC and would be one less position we would be in a hurry to fill.

#2 would be Dan Reeves. I heard Drew Pearson say something a few weeks ago about this team losing touch whith it's past. BP had brought guys like Carl Banks and others in to talk about being champions. This organizations has more champions than the old Giants, why not dip into that past. Plus Reeves is another guy who can coach QBs. He did a good job with Elway in Denver. My only concern would be his age and heart health.

Either way, I really want a good DC to come in. One who isn't afraid to make adjustments and adapt to the flow of the game. We didn't have that the last few years. After watching the Colts yesterday, they adapted, made adjustments and in the end, wound up going to the Super Bowl because they were flexible.

Unlike us, who played that "We'll stick with the game plan no matter what the score is" crap.

I wonder if Dick Juron will be available?


i wouldn't mind reeves. how well he did with elway is debateable. elway hated (and still hates) his guts...
 

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Cajuncowboy;1328187 said:
Well, he is developing Alex Smith right now and he made a mediocre SF offense dangerous with designing game plans that accentuated the teams strengths with Frank Gore and Vernon Davis and so-so O-line. And as I said, he had crap to work with in Wash, and Oakland. At least here he has Romo who has some talnet.

You can't make chicken salad out of chicken crap.

I think Norv is right up there with anybody when it comes to calling a game that keeps defenses off balanced. That said, his track record as a head coach scares me a bit.

I am on the defensive side of the fence as far as a head coach goes. I think I am in the Rivera, Ryan, Singletary camp (and the safest choice of Wade Phillips) and bringing in new OC's or keeping Sporano and Palmer
 

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couple retreads huh? What's really funny is you mention "Juron". I assume you meant Dick Jauron...the guy who was WIDELY criticized in Detroit for not being aggressive enough as a DC....lol.
 

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Cajuncowboy;1328127 said:
#2 would be Dan Reeves. I heard Drew Pearson say something a few weeks ago about this team losing touch whith it's past. BP had brought guys like Carl Banks and others in to talk about being champions. This organizations has more champions than the old Giants, why not dip into that past. Plus Reeves is another guy who can coach QBs. He did a good job with Elway in Denver. My only concern would be his age and heart health.

Considering he is part of the past, I can understand why he wants everyone to follow him. Times change and so have the Cowboys and the rest of the NFL. The past lived off of loyalty. In todays age of free agency and salary caps, loyalty is a thing of the past. Just like Drew Pearson's Cowboys of 'ol.
 

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baj1dallas;1328344 said:
couple retreads huh? What's really funny is you mention "Juron". I assume you meant Dick Jauron...the guy who was WIDELY criticized in Detroit for not being aggressive enough as a DC....lol.

Actually I meant Lebaeu (sp) but since then I see he is staying in Pitt.
 

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Cajuncowboy;1328318 said:
And that was kinda my point with the Gore reference. Norv knows offense and knows how to get the most out of his offensive players. I think he would be a very solid choice.

The reason SF's offense got better is because they beefed up the offensive line. The #1 rule to have a good offense. Have a good offensive line!
 

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nyc;1328346 said:
Considering he is part of the past, I can understand why he wants everyone to follow him. Times change and so have the Cowboys and the rest of the NFL. The past lived off of loyalty. In todays age of free agency and salary caps, loyalty is a thing of the past. Just like Drew Pearson's Cowboys of 'ol.

There is nothing wrong with honoring and learning from the past. If you do not learn anything from it then it is worthless.
 

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nyc;1328353 said:
The reason SF's offense got better is because they beefed up the offensive line. The #1 rule to have a good offense. Have a good offensive line!

While I agree with you regarding the O-line, you still have to have someone who knows what they are doing at the helm and that is where Norv comes in.

All in all I think Norv would be good because he would bring one of the things this teams needs to go to the next level and that is a mentor and tutor for Romo. There is no denying his ability to do that.
 

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nyc;1328353 said:
The reason SF's offense got better is because they beefed up the offensive line. The #1 rule to have a good offense. Have a good offensive line!
And because Gore is a frizzeak! His yardage to the sidelines can be slightly attributed to the Oline, but he bounces it like noone but LDT.
 

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I have no problem with Norv ending up here...isnt my 1st choice but I think he'd do well here...we're far more talented than either Washinton or Oakland were...

he'd need a quality defensive hire, but he'd do well IMO

David
 

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No to Dan Reeves.

I might not like the idea of Norv, but I would not throw a hissy fit.

Ugg...to be honest nobody available right now really gets me too excited.
 

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Ugh, San Francisco had the 26th scoring offense in the league last year (just up 3 spots from the previous year). 29th in passing. This was after spending millions on free agent upgrades and a top 10 draft pick on Vernon Davis. Alex Smith's QB rating last year was still a below average 74 (it had nowhere to go but up from the year before). And Norv didn't really work wonders for Heath Shuler's career.

I would say Norv's record with young QB's is spotty with high highs and low lows.
 

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Cajuncowboy;1328187 said:
Well, he is developing Alex Smith right now and he made a mediocre SF offense dangerous with designing game plans that accentuated the teams strengths with Frank Gore and Vernon Davis and so-so O-line. And as I said, he had crap to work with in Wash, and Oakland. At least here he has Romo who has some talnet.

You can't make chicken salad out of chicken crap.

We have bigger issues on defense. Norv knows nothing about where our glaring problems are.
 

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BrAinPaiNt;1328395 said:
No to Dan Reeves.

I might not like the idea of Norv, but I would not throw a hissy fit.

Ugg...to be honest nobody available right now really gets me too excited.

I know that feeling. Maybe jerry will let Steven coach.
 
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