My Uncompensated Opinion After Re-watching Broadcast game

[Future]

Guess you wanted Cassel to come out an play like Brandon Weeden. Never mind ur just pushing agendas for ratings,,, same old tired beat down agenda.

If he played Brandon Weeden's game, Dallas wins.

 

[DFWJC]

A situation where just looking at a box score doesn't tell you the entire story.

65 of the Eagles 177 came on one run. Other than that play, the Eagles were held to less than 4 yards a carry last night.

Yes.
The Panthers dominated that LOS

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Giants ran for 132 yards and 5.3ypc -- almost all of it straight up the gut.

Patriots ran for 109 and 4.7 ypc.

Frankly I was expected more from the duo of Roland McClain and Sean Lee. Remember the common refrain here on CZ that "I can't wait to see Lee and McClain finally on the field together"?

So far, two games in, their play is blah.

Some of it may have to do with Lee recovering from his concussion and McClain shaking off rust -- however I've got a feeling it may be more than that.

Yes, I was not happy with Sean Lee's play. He got fooled a lot out there.




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[Frosty]

If he played Brandon Weeden's game, Dallas wins.

HahahahahaahahhahahaahhahaaaAAHH.

 

[Aven8]

Did Hitchens plays? or did we go with 2 lb? I think this is more of a problem and with the dline unable to shed blockers this is what is happening. The run defense has not been good all year. How much of that is scheme, and or guys like Hayden who teams don't have to double team

Great question! I also noticed Marinelli was sending Ro on the blitz a lot and he would be out of position from the play. Not his fault. Lee since the concussion has looked just average as well.

 

[CowboyStar88]

Great question! I also noticed Marinelli was sending Ro on the blitz a lot and he would be out of position from the play. Not his fault. Lee since the concussion has looked just average as well.

I get teams are trying to spread the defense out which is forcing them to bring in White/Jones, but this is what is happening the line isn't shedding blocks and it's allowing the O-line to get to the 2nd level and engage Ro/lee. Really I think we can point a certain player who is suppose to be getting double teamed, but he isn't because they only need 1 player to block him.

 

[CyberB0b]

The pick six was on Terrance Williams for rounding off his route as if he was never expecting the ball to be thrown his way. I think we call all agree on that. The second interception was Cassel's fault, but the ball simply came out wrong and ultimately was as good as a punt inside the 1 yards line.

I'm probably thinking they were both to blame on the pick 6. I only watched it once, but it looked like a classic miscommunication. The second one wasn't like a punt. It was 2nd and 7 on the Giants 40, I believe. A few more yards, and we are at least in field goal range.

 

[Wrangler87]

I'm probably thinking they were both to blame on the pick 6. I only watched it once, but it looked like a classic miscommunication. The second one wasn't like a punt. It was 2nd and 7 on the Giants 40, I believe. A few more yards, and we are at least in field goal range.

Watch it again. Williams rounded off the route, and then turned lazily towards the sideline on his break. The CB broke on the ball. Williams missed the ball by inches. Had he played through and ran his route full speed, the pass would have probably been complete, or at the very least just broken up.

I second pass was like a punt. You didn't see it? Ended up inside the one yard line. Obviously not the best result but I honestly think he just lost grip on the ball on that play. He had double clutched prior to throwing it and it came off the top of his hand funny. I'm not an apologist but it's not like he didn't know where he was going or just threw the ball up to avoid the hit. He had the right idea, it just came out wrong. Ultimately, it resulted in three points for the Giants, though it probably shouldn't have.

 

[CyberB0b]

Watch it again. Williams rounded off the route, and then turned lazily towards the sideline on his break. The CB broke on the ball. Williams missed the ball by inches. Had he played through and ran his route full speed, the pass would have probably been complete, or at the very least just broken up.

I second pass was like a punt. You didn't see it? Ended up inside the one yard line. Obviously not the best result but I honestly think he just lost grip on the ball on that play. He had double clutched prior to throwing it and it came off the top of his hand funny. I'm not an apologist but it's not like he didn't know where he was going or just threw the ball up to avoid the hit. He had the right idea, it just came out wrong. Ultimately, it resulted in three points for the Giants, though it probably shouldn't have.

You missed my point. The second one was on a 2nd and 7. What teams punt on 2nd and 7 on the opponent's 40 yard line? They left at least 3 points on the table there, possible a TD.

 

[VACowboy]

In addition, I really wish I had time to watch some other teams route trees. We seem to run way to many curls. Nothing wrong with those routes, but the receiver is stopped and big plays are pretty difficult. This how Beasley is use alot and I just dont think it fits his skillset. There are also many times where a receiver is crossing right into another receiver who is topped. This has too many defenders following the ball and negates the abiilty to create a big play. Also if there is no one better on the roster at returning punts than Beasley, then that evaluation in TC was another mark against the coaches.

I have been harping on Garrett's offensive design for years. It just doesn't put the players in position to succeed. In contrast, watch Josh Daniels' offense. Tom Brady may be the best player ever to set foot on an NFL field, but the design of the NE offense helps receivers get open. And it's way more than rub routes. Same for New Orleans, Atlanta, Green Bay, Arizona and the NYG. What I have never understood is is Garrett's apparent distaste for intermediate slants and deep crossing routes. These are the routes Dez needs to be running. I don't understand the limited use of Escobar and three TE sets, especially with Dez out and Williams playing like crap. It could be such a nightmare for opposing defenses (see: Witten 35-yard reception from yesterday). You spend a second on Escobar and a 2016 6th to get back in round seven for Swaim and.... (crickets) This is directly reminiscent Martellus Bennett, who I think was vastly underutilized in Dallas. He was/is a great blocker and has proved to be a pretty darn good receiver elsewhere. Anyone remember Anthony Fasano? My opinion is, Tony Romo has had a near HoF career in Dallas, but we would be talking about him in the same breath as Rodgers and Brady had he played in a better offense than JG's.

/rant

I'm gonna have to look at the all-22, but I think the improvement in the running game was more than just better OL play. I think Collins was a big part of that, BTW. McFadden was incredible too. But the plays just looked different to me overall. I loved what they did with Lucky. I'd like to see him become a bigger factor in the passing game so he can stay on the field, maybe be our Percy Harvin (circa Minnesota). The threat of a player like that can really help a ground game.

I'm gonna use Beasley as a segue. I'm not sure if he's not playing well or is being used differently, but after his great offseason and new contract, I expected more. Again, it just seems Garrett refuses to incorporate new players and strategies in his offense. I really expected bigger roles for guys like Bease and Escobar. Instead, we've seen more of the same: run the ball on first down, then throw it to Dez and Jason. I really wanted an upgrade at the slot and kick/punt return positions after we lost Harris. I really banged the drum for Jamison Crowder and Stefon Diggs in the offseason, and it's making me ill seeing what they are doing elsewhere.

I like Garrett, but he needs to dispense with the conservatism. Romo has been covering that up for a long time. I think that becomes more and more obvious each game he's not there.

 

[TheDude]

The guy who threw a pick 6, 3 picks overall, 227 yards and only 1 TD was good? I would hate to see your definition of bad QB play.

I laid out the difference from the last 3 games. It is relative to weeden. He is not Romo , but weedens play likely wins you 1-2 games a yr. Cassel looks like competent QB who had 2 bad throws, the last 2 weeks looked like a dig 3 college qb who made 2-3 good throws

 

[DC Cowboy]

The pick six was on Terrance Williams for rounding off his route as if he was never expecting the ball to be thrown his way. I think we call all agree on that. The second interception was Cassel's fault, but the ball simply came out wrong and ultimately was as good as a punt inside the 1 yards line.

As good as a punt? WTH T-Will had his man beat and it should have been a score.

 

[CyberB0b]

I laid out the difference from the last 3 games. It is relative to weeden. He is not Romo , but weedens play likely wins you 1-2 games a yr. Cassel looks like competent QB who had 2 bad throws, the last 2 weeks looked like a dig 3 college qb who made 2-3 good throws

They dropped 2 picks, including another interception. Look, I am not a Weeden fanboy here, never have been. Just because Weeden is terrible doesn't mean Cassel is good. I don't get the Cassel love. He didn't play well enough to win the game. He gave us a gross of 20 points, and a net of 13. He made some good throws, but he also made some terrible ones. I didn't see a lot of arm strength there, and he made a few questionable backfoot/on the run type of throws that he got away with. We might be able to beat the Bucs with Cassel.

 

[Wolfpack]

The play calling was generally better this game. More creative running plays (and formations) than the typical game this year. They clearly are feeling desperate.

 

[risco]

Giants ran for 132 yards and 5.3ypc -- almost all of it straight up the gut.

Patriots ran for 109 and 4.7 ypc.

Frankly I was expected more from the duo of Roland McClain and Sean Lee. Remember the common refrain here on CZ that "I can't wait to see Lee and McClain finally on the field together"?

So far, two games in, their play is blah.

Some of it may have to do with Lee recovering from his concussion and McClain shaking off rust -- however I've got a feeling it may be more than that.

I believe Lee need to move back to the mike and McLain to the will.

 

[John813]

If he played Brandon Weeden's game, Dallas wins.

He did a good Weeden impression checking down to Hanna on a 4 yard pass on 4th and 8.

 

[RunDMC]

If he played Brandon Weeden's game, Dallas wins.

Doubt it. Weeden couldn't make some of those plays Cassel makes. Yeah he may have not thrown a pick, but the guy is too scared to win a game in this league.

Agree with the OP. I hate these routes. Everyone is seemingly running the same damn route. Not making the defense defend the entire field. Need more variety. Will we get it? Probably not. This is a stubborn staff as we all know.

If McClain doesn't play with dramatically more effort move Hitchens back to Mike and insert Wilson at SAM. Give me guys who will give effort and play with a non stop motor.

 

[Wrangler87]

As good as a punt? WTH T-Will had his man beat and it should have been a score.

Ultimately. Maybe no worse than a punt would be a better way to stated it. Cassel simply lost grip on the ball and it came out of his hand funny. He even mentioned in his interview. It sucks but it is what it is. It's not like he just threw the ball up for grabs because he panicked or didn't know where to go with it.

 

[Wrangler87]

He did a good Weeden impression checking down to Hanna on a 4 yard pass on 4th and 8.

God forbid you ask an NFL TE to run for four yards with a head of steam.

 

[Wrangler87]

You missed my point. The second one was on a 2nd and 7. What teams punt on 2nd and 7 on the opponent's 40 yard line? They left at least 3 points on the table there, possible a TD.

No, you missed my point. It obviously sucks that he threw that interception on a 3nd and 7 on the 40 yard line, but ultimately, it ended up not worse than a punt inside the one. You want to bench the guy because he lost grip and the ball came out of his hand funny. It wasn't like he threw the ball up for grabs to avoid contact or because he didn't know any better.