MySa Blog: Newman's failed gamble

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By Tom Orsborn on Dec 8, 09 01:44 PM | Permalink | Comments (0) Save & Share

IRVING - The Cowboys have been criticized for not making enough big plays in December. A case in point came in the second quarter of Sunday's 31-24 loss to the Giants.

On first-and-5 at the Dallas 21, Dallas CB Terence Newman took a chance and tried to intercept a pass from Eli Manning to Hakeem Nicks. But instead of making the play, Newman missed the ball, allowing Nicks to score the touchdown that sparked New York's rally from a 10-0 deficit.

"I though I had a chance, and I went for it," Newman said.

I'm not knocking Newman for taking the chance. But it just seems like the Cowboys fail to come up with big plays down the stretch while other teams make them. That was certainly the case Sunday when the Giants got a 74-yard catch-and-run TD from RB Brandon Jacobs and a 79-yard punt return for a score from Domenik Hixon.

Had Newman played it safe, Nicks probably would have had a 10-yard gain. Wade Phillips was asked Monday if he likes players to gamble for interceptions.

"It's where you are on the field and where they are and when the guy's throwing the ball, the timing of the route, all those things," Phillips said. "And what the strengths and weaknesses of the coverages are sometimes. Sometimes you have outside, sometimes you have inside, sometimes you have help. All those things determine it."

So was Newman justified in going for the pick?

"It didn't turn out that way, no," Phillips said. "Now when you go for it, you've got to make the play."

Unfortunately for Dallas, that never seems to happen in December.
 

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This is why it is important to be in the proper position when in coverage at least you are in position to knock the pass away or make the tackle, if you are looking to jump the route you better be sure you can get it or you know you have safety help behind the play.
 

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I have no problem with Newman trying to make that play.

I have more of a problem with the FUMBLE that made that play come relevant.
 

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Doomsday101;3129419 said:
This is why it is important to be in the proper position when in coverage at least you are in position to knock the pass away or make the tackle, if you are looking to jump the route you better be sure you can get it or you know you have safety help behind the play.

For those who think we are a game-changing player or two short on defense,
like me, this blurb fits the template. IF Newman had a tad better judgment, or tad quicker feet, maybe he gets the pick and saves 7 pts.

This will drive you crazy if you let it.
 

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Hook'em#11;3129429 said:
I have no problem with Newman trying to make that play.

I have more of a problem with the FUMBLE that made that play come relevant.

Well, he did what everyone here screams about. Try and make a play. Half step sooner on that he may have been running down the sidelines with the ball.

Ahhh... what could have been.
 

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Newman is not an interception machine... he is good in coverage, but rarely does he actually get the ball.

That is the reason he should not of gambled on that play. If he had a knack for picking off the ball, then it would have made sense to take a chance.
 

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Newman and Scandrick have the speed but they are almost always 1-2 steps from the play. This boils down to practice habits. Right now Jenkins is the only play maker back there, once Sensabaugh get his hand back we might have two...
 

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CowboyFan74;3129495 said:
Newman and Scandrick have the speed but they are almost always 1-2 steps from the play. This boils down to practice habits. Right now Jenkins is the only play maker back there, once Sensabaugh get his hand back we might have two...

Practice and extra film study to know your opponents tendencies.
 

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Hook'em#11;3129429 said:
I have no problem with Newman trying to make that play.

I had a problem with it considering the safety was in front of him, not behind him. If there was someone else there to clean up then by all means take the shot.

As it turns out he even knocked Sensa out of the play while going for the ball.
 

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Zman5;3129505 said:
Practice and extra film study to know your opponents tendencies.

Wait? Did Newman go away in any of the 10 days as Romo and Austin did?

THERE'S the problem.;)
 

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canters;3129434 said:
For those who think we are a game-changing player or two short on defense,
like me, this blurb fits the template. IF Newman had a tad better judgment, or tad quicker feet, maybe he gets the pick and saves 7 pts.

This will drive you crazy if you let it.

I just don't think he was in a great position to take the gamble. Had he had help over the top to make the tackle should he miss that is one thing or even if he was in better position to get the int. To me he looked like he was in no mans land where you are not in position to get the int or make the tackle. Having said that I still like Newman and by and large does a good job for us so while I would not mind looking to upgrade the spot I'm also not in a big hurry to cut him loose unless I know for a fact I have a guy who is ready to take over.
 

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I have to say that was a pretty big play. When you gamble like that, you better be right.
 

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Hook'em#11;3129429 said:
I have no problem with Newman trying to make that play.

I have more of a problem with the FUMBLE that made that play come relevant.

Exactly
 

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So now we want our cornerbacks to let the receiver make a catch and tackle him instead of playing the ball? Good to know.

And Newman didn't go for the interception, he tried to knock it away with his right hand. His left hand was on Nicks' back. If Newman doesn't go for the ball, the Giants have a first-and-goal inside the 7 (not the 11, as Orsborn claims).
 

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DanteEXT;3129439 said:
Well, he did what everyone here screams about. Try and make a play. Half step sooner on that he may have been running down the sidelines with the ball.

Ahhh... what could have been.
Hah yea, when I saw that play I immediately thought of all the guys on here who talk about how Campo teaches DBs to play the man instead of the ball.
 

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Hook'em#11;3129429 said:
I have no problem with Newman trying to make that play.

I have more of a problem with the FUMBLE that made that play come relevant.

:hammer:
 

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Newman was trying to block the ball, but he wasn't even close - given that he had deep contain on that play it was a stupid decision. Which is what Wade was alluding to - if it's only you between the receiver and the end zone you better make sure that you can make the play. Newman has poor ball skills for a DB in his pay scale - not ranking in the top 10 in ints for the past 5 years and ony scratching the top 10 in terms of PD's once (10th) over that time span. He does a good job blanketing receivers, just not making plays on the ball.

It was just one of a handful of bad plays on defense though, I'm glad that Newman has at least stayed healthy this year, I don't think that his replacement is on the team yet.
 

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Doomsay;3129756 said:
Newman was trying to block the ball, but he wasn't even close - given that he had deep contain on that play it was a stupid decision. Which is what Wade was alluding to - if it's only you between the receiver and the end zone you better make sure that you can make the play. Newman has poor ball skills for a DB in his pay scale not ranking in the top 10 in ints for the past 5 years and ony scratching the top 10 in terms of PD's once (10th) over that time span. He does a good job blanketing receivers, just not making plays on the ball.

It was just one of a handful of bad plays on defense though, I'm glad that Newman has at least stayed healthy this year, I don't think that his replacement is on the team yet.
Well for what it's worth...I don't think Jenkins is ready to be a shut-down type because he won't be able to consistently cover guys like Steve Smith, he's the next big thing in the Dallas secondary. I don't think he's as good a cover man as Newman, yet, but he's got more ball skills than any DB we've had since Derek Ross.
 
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