MySa Blog: Newman's failed gamble

[Kilyin]

he's got more ball skills than any DB we've had since Derek Ross.

Well there's a ringing endorsement.

 

[ravidubey]

"It's where you are on the field and where they are and when the guy's throwing the ball, the timing of the route, all those things," Phillips said. "And what the strengths and weaknesses of the coverages are sometimes. Sometimes you have outside, sometimes you have inside, sometimes you have help. All those things determine it."

This is what Newman doesn't get. He lacks the instincts and football smarts to even begin to make such a play.

He took a bad angle at the ball, had no idea where his backup coverage was at the time, and ended up colliding with Scandrick on the play. It's a shame this guy turned out to be so average. Seeing how good Mike Jenkins is just puts an exclamation mark on that point.

 

[28 Joker]

I have no problem with Newman trying to make that play.

I have more of a problem with the FUMBLE that made that play come relevant.

Bingo. I agree.

They shouldn't have even had the football.

Plus, they probably would have scored a TD, anyway, based on the previous pathetic defense on the previous drive.

Newman tried to make a play. He gambled and lost.

People have been crying for him to gamble more.

We'll he did and lost.

That is what you have to live with.

Asante Samuel loses, too.

All gamblers lose.

Newman isn't a gambler.

 

[28 Joker]

So now we want our cornerbacks to let the receiver make a catch and tackle him instead of playing the ball? Good to know.

And Newman didn't go for the interception, he tried to knock it away with his right hand. His left hand was on Nicks' back. If Newman doesn't go for the ball, the Giants have a first-and-goal inside the 7 (not the 11, as Orsborn claims).

Newman did the right thing, imo. He tried to make a play on the ball in that situation. I agree. He didn't miss a pick. His fingertips came up short. It wasn't like it went through his hands. He just couldn't get there. He tried to make a play. He did the right thing, imo.

 

[EPL0c0]

You have to like Newman's aggressiveness. If he gets the INT, that's a TD. It was a high stakes gamble. The smart play would have been to get a big hit on Nicks and maybe jar the ball loose forcing the INC.

But...I like the aggresiveness. I hope this doesn't cause him to hesitate the next time the opportunity comes along.

 

[CM Duck]

I have no problem with Newman trying to make that play.

I have more of a problem with the FUMBLE that made that play come relevant.

I still think Barber needs to STOP using those darn black elbow sleeves. They seem more slippery than sticky. Every fumble he has had this year seems to pop loose from the elbow.

Wasn't it Ahman Green that used those same kind of sleeves and had fumblitis until he stopped using them?

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I still think Barber needs to STOP using those darn black elbow sleeves. They seem more slippery than sticky. Every fumble he has had this year seems to pop loose from the elbow.

Wasn't it Ahman Green that used those same kind of sleeves and had fumblitis until he stopped using them?

I thought about the same thing. I thought he broke those out one game and fumbled, and Parcells mentioned how dumb it was to wear them because they were slick.

 

[Future]

Well there's a ringing endorsement.

:laugh2: I knew somebody would say something, but on the field that guy made plays. It was the off-field stuff that was his downfall.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

"Terry" Newman stinks. He is a failure at CB. He has never been that good even in his younger days. Nothing but overpaid garbage is Newman now.

I can't wait until the Cowboys get rid of him. The sooner the better. He is the most despised Cowboy by me. No one but blind homers see anything in him.

And "Mary Ann" Barber ain't far behind. What a loser. And stupid, too. No football sense or game awareness. Choke away another fumble. This moron almost got Romo injured vs. Wash on his previous bonehead brain fart. And then he ain't even man enough to hold the ball against a sissy slap at the ball vs. the Giants in a big game.

In an uncapped year, it would be so nice to trade both these losers for anything. They are doing nothing but stealing money from JJ.

 

[rags747]

Newman has never had the ball skills. Has aways been bad at locating the ball in the air and has always been bad intercepting it as well.

Jenkins meanwhile is usually around the ball, slapping them away or making big plays and intercepting.

Just imagine if we had another corner with ball skills as solid as Jenkins...Can you say dominating defense. Put Newman in the slot next year and draft a cb #1 or bring in a topflight cb in FA.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Well there's a ringing endorsement.

 

[RCowboyFan]

So now we want our cornerbacks to let the receiver make a catch and tackle him instead of playing the ball? Good to know.

And Newman didn't go for the interception, he tried to knock it away with his right hand. His left hand was on Nicks' back. If Newman doesn't go for the ball, the Giants have a first-and-goal inside the 7 (not the 11, as Orsborn claims).

According to Newman he want for the Ball. Irvin noted on his show, that he was getting some notes on the game on situational football stuff. He said Newman made the wrong gamble or tried a wrong play at wrong time.

He essentially at that down and distance you don't go for the ball unless you are sure of getting theball. i.e. you don't take chances unless you are pretty sure or chances or high. He said that was not an intelligent play.

Which has been my beef with Cowboys players. In general quite of few of them are dumb about situational football seems like. Newman especially has been a dumb player at times. He single handidly might have let the Pitt team into the game last year, when Cowboys D was throttling Pitt Offense.

He an Bradie talk a lot for players who make minimal impact. Newman makes more impact than Bradie ever did, but Newman thinks he is all pro when he is not all that, especially last two years anyway ( before that he had a case). Especially spouting off about coaches last year, still grates on me.

 

[Doomsay]

Well for what it's worth...I don't think Jenkins is ready to be a shut-down type because he won't be able to consistently cover guys like Steve Smith, he's the next big thing in the Dallas secondary. I don't think he's as good a cover man as Newman, yet, but he's got more ball skills than any DB we've had since Derek Ross.

I don't know about that -Jenkins is proving to be a smart physical DB - with ball skills.

Newman is shut down, until a good QB actually challenges him - then he can be a give up CB.

 

[wileedog]

If Newman doesn't go for the ball, the Giants have a first-and-goal inside the 7 (not the 11, as Orsborn claims).

But he went for it and missed - and wasn't really that close - so they got a touchdown.

What the heck kind of argument is this?

 

[wileedog]

You have to like Newman's aggressiveness. If he gets the INT, that's a TD.

INT? TD? It would have taken an insane effort even to block the ball, and he completely missed.

Worse, he took out the safety, so no one could possibly make a tackle.

No one is saying corners shouldn't be aggressive, but you need to be smart.

There's no one behind him. He was a good 5 yards off the ball when he broke for it. He wasn't that close that giving up a sure TD if he missed was justified IMO.

INT? That wasn't even an option. He would have been lucky get a hand on it which is why I thought it was a stupid gamble with the safety in front of him.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Don't know what you mean about it not being close, wilee. He was about three or four inches from batting the ball down.

 

[wileedog]

Don't know what you mean about it not being close, wilee. He was about three or four inches from batting the ball down.

I think he almost needs to be like Spencer close when the ball went through his hands against Denver to make that gamble with no one behind him in the red zone.

Its just a bad call with no one behind you and you are completely reaching. That was just way too much of a margin for error.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

According to Newman he want for the Ball. Irvin noted on his show, that he was getting some notes on the game on situational football stuff. He said Newman made the wrong gamble or tried a wrong play at wrong time.

He essentially at that down and distance you don't go for the ball unless you are sure of getting theball. i.e. you don't take chances unless you are pretty sure or chances or high. He said that was not an intelligent play.

Which has been my beef with Cowboys players. In general quite of few of them are dumb about situational football seems like. Newman especially has been a dumb player at times. He single handidly might have let the Pitt team into the game last year, when Cowboys D was throttling Pitt Offense.

He an Bradie talk a lot for players who make minimal impact. Newman makes more impact than Bradie ever did, but Newman thinks he is all pro when he is not all that, especially last two years anyway ( before that he had a case). Especially spouting off about coaches last year, still grates on me.

I couldn't agree more, Dallas has overpaid marginal talent, and that's the truth.

 

[AdamJT13]

You have to like Newman's aggressiveness. If he gets the INT, that's a TD.

Again, Newman didn't go for the interception, he tried to knock down the pass.