Myth of no open receivers

[raichledog]

Only in your mind Jenkins runs in 2 directions.

LOL... wow

 

[Zman5]

Oh it's obvious you don't know what you are talking about.

Yeh I thought so. I knew you won't answer the question.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

In that pic, Dak doesn't have pressure. But a second afterwards, he is pressured and throws the ball to Dunbar.
If you watch the video, he is looking at Bease all the way until getting pressured.

I have watched the All22 multiple times. I gave my opinion on every throw in the thread that xwalker posted. The fact he was watching Beasley the whole time as you say makes it even worse that he didn't throw it to him.

 

[raichledog]

Yeh I thought so. I knew you won't answer the question.

I did answer the question boss. It is obvious that you don't know football, anticipation, body mechanics, or really, anything else. Beyond those things this is all just a silly little tit for tat.

 

[theogt]

39 yard to 46 yard is 10-15 yards? OK. Good to know.

Yes. This distance IS about 10-15 yards. I'm not sure why they even use other DBs if this guy can cover an entire half of the field all by himself. Apparently there must not be a defender within 20 yards of a player for the player to be open in your view.

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[raichledog]

Yes. This distance IS about 10-15 yards.

http://i124.***BLOCKED***/albums/p15/zman55/beaseDak3.gif

I like Dak a lot, think he has a brilliant future ahead of him. He just missed a freaking opportunity on this play and this dude just can't get out of his own head on it.

 

[Zman5]

I have watched the All22 multiple times. I gave my opinion on every throw in the thread that xwalker posted. The fact he was watching Beasley the whole time as you say makes it even worse that he didn't throw it to him.

It would not have been a easy throw to make. There was a LB underneath and Jenkins on top. You have to also think this in context. It was 2nd 15. Dak had to get some yards to make 3rd down more manageable. There was a LB blizing directly at him unblocked. Pocket was closing fast.

He did the right thing by throwing it to wide open Dunbar and getting 5 yards. The fact that Dak was able to complete the 3rd down pass and get first down shows that was not a bad thing to do.

 

[raichledog]

In reality, when Dak had to throw the ball due to the pressure, it looks like this.

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You have a LB right in front of Bease. You have Jenkins at the same level as Bease reading Dak's eyes. The route Bease ran, Dak would have to throw the ball between where Bease (hash mark) and Jenkins is.

Had Dak thrown the ball, Jenkins has as much chance getting to it as Bease does. Bease wasn't wide open. Add to that Dak had LB blitzing toward him unblocked and a DLinemen closing in. Only receiver that was really wide open was Dunbar in this play.

So to post the first pic and saying Bease was wide open is not 100% correct.

This is the pic YOU POSTED. Dak has not begun his throwing motion and LOOK AT JENKINS. He is driving down and out already, following Dez. Beasley is EVEN with him at full sprint. To suggest Jenkins could have done ANYTHING to stop that throw is just insanity.

Plus, the "LB Pressure" you mentioned is still 7 yards away through traffic.

 

[theogt]

This is the pic YOU POSTED. Dak has not begun his throwing motion and LOOK AT JENKINS. He is driving down and out already, following Dez. Beasley is EVEN with him at full sprint. To suggest Jenkins could have done ANYTHING to stop that throw is just insanity.

Plus, the "LB Pressure" you mentioned is still 7 yards away through traffic.

When you look at the view behind the QB, the linebacker is still 7 yards away AFTER the ball has left Dak's hands. So, to recap, receivers need at least 15 yards of separation from the DB, and the QB cannot have anyone within 7 yards of him or its a pressure. That's apparently what is needed. Hope we can get by with those minimum requirements.

 

[Zman5]

Yes. This distance IS about 10-15 yards. I'm not sure why they even use other DBs if this guy can cover an entire half of the field all by himself. Apparently there must not be a defender within 20 yards of a player for the player to be open in your view.

http://i124.***BLOCKED***/albums/p15/zman55/beaseDak3.gif

Oh this pic again. The reason Jenkins is farther away is because the ball has already been thrown to Dunbar and he has started to run toward Dunbar.

If you don't believe me, go back and read Campo's tweet. Maybe then you will comprehend this simple concept.

 

[raichledog]

When you look at the view behind the QB, the linebacker is still 7 yards away AFTER the ball has left Dak's hands. So, to recap, receivers need at least 15 yards of separation from the DB, and the QB cannot have anyone within 7 yards of him or its a pressure. That's apparently what is needed. Hope we can get by with those minimum requirements.

As long as we don't have to throw against "Super Jenkins" we should be alright.

 

[Zman5]

This is the pic YOU POSTED. Dak has not begun his throwing motion and LOOK AT JENKINS. He is driving down and out already, following Dez. Beasley is EVEN with him at full sprint. To suggest Jenkins could have done ANYTHING to stop that throw is just insanity.

Plus, the "LB Pressure" you mentioned is still 7 yards away through traffic.

The ball is in the air. Try again.

 

[theogt]

Oh this pic again. The reason Jenkins is farther away is because the ball has already been thrown to Dunbar and he has started to run toward Dunbar.

If you don't believe me, go back and read Campo's tweet. Maybe then you will comprehend this simple concept.

I said Dez and Beasley were running routes 15 yards apart. You tried to claim otherwise. You were, for the umpteenth time in this thread, proven either a liar or an idiot.

 

[raichledog]

The ball is in the air. Try again.

Your head is in your butt... try again

 

[raichledog]

I said Dez and Beasley were 10-15 yards apart. You tried to claim otherwise. You were, for the umpteenth time in this thread, proven either a liar or an idiot.

Can we chime in on which of those we think he is?

 

[theogt]

Can we chime in on which of those we think he is?

It's clearly both.

 

[Zman5]

When you look at the view behind the QB, the linebacker is still 7 yards away AFTER the ball has left Dak's hands. So, to recap, receivers need at least 15 yards of separation from the DB, and the QB cannot have anyone within 7 yards of him or its a pressure. That's apparently what is needed. Hope we can get by with those minimum requirements.

And where is the Dlinemen?

 

[theogt]

And where is the Dlinemen?

At least 3 yards away after the ball leaves Dak's hand.

 

[Zman5]

At least 3 yards away after the ball leaves Dak's hand.

So LB is 7 yards away and the DL is at least 3 yards away? Really?

http://i124.***BLOCKED***/albums/p15/zman55/beaseDak7_2.gif

 

[theogt]

So LB is 7 yards away and the DL is at least 3 yards away? Really?

http://i124.***BLOCKED***/albums/p15/zman55/beaseDak7_2.gif

Yes. And this is after he threw the ball.