wayne_motley said:
According to what I read, players are always allowed to take the test as many times as they wish....so what's really new here? Even Henson's wonderful score, which obviously means nothing about being able to play football, could have been on his 2nd or even 3rd try because the NFL doesn't report how many times a player took the test or what his scores were each time.
I have never heard of a player taking the Wonderlic more than one time at the same combine. Players routinely take the Wonderlic their junior or sophmore year before coming out. These scores are generally only reported when there is a drastic improvement in the score. This was the case with Akali Smith and Jason Cambell for instance. Rumors circulated that Smith cheated on his second exam, explaining the incredible improvement... something along the lines of 16 to 35 or something like that.
As for the other comments...
The test is not an IQ test or a test of knowledge... it is designed to test a persons ability to think critically and learn material. Specifically, the test is designed to give a potential employer some idea of how long it will take to train a potential employee. Fields where there is a significant amount of material that needs to be learned quickly (computer programmer for instance) would be advised to use employees with higher Wonderlic scores, while jobs that require easy duplicate task (manufacturing) would not require such lofty scores. Wonderlic publishes scores guidelines for each field. I seem to recall 16 being around the area required for Garbage men. (Seriously.. I'm not making that up.) Scores like 31 or so were suggested for computer programmers.
A score of 6 would suggest a serious learning dissability. For those saying that it doesn't in anyway matter for a persons ability to play football, I think you are wrong. Teams often will dynamically change their schemes in a game or even before a play. The ability for a player to be able to adapt quickly to those changes is paramount for some positions. Those same positions are routinely listed as the positions that average the highest Wonderlic Scores... Center, QB, Safety, MLB....
I think the explanation given before, that Vince perhaps didn't fill in the remaining blank answers with guesses is probably the most likely situation. In this case his acurate score is probably around a 16. But that is nothing to be proud about. It shows that he's still not a bright guy and that he didn't prepare for the exam. Plus, and I've taken many many standerdized test... they always tell you before the exam if guessing is advantageous or not. I'm positive they told the players before this test. So that might also mean that he simply didn't bother to pay attention to instructions.
I might not have a bottom "cut-off" on scores for a player, but I would certainly factor it into my overall raiting. For a players in a position that demands dynamic thinking I would give it upwards of 30% weight along with measurables, past production, and personality. Other positions, like DT, I might only weight it at 5%.
The question I have is why do you have to post in mutiple threads about how dumb you think he is when actually you have no proof and are basing this on a rumour of a test score, but hey whatever floats your boat.
