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Rating the Dallas Cowboys from Quarterback to Kicker



As always, there is a ton of speculation surrounding the Dallas Cowboys as we make our way through OTA’s getting ready for training camp and heading into the Pre-Season. Can the Dallas Cowboys be the first team ever with home-field advantage for a Super Bowl?

After a great finish to the regular season last year and the ‘Boys first playoff win in 13 years expectations are again very high, and as we’ve seen with this particular Cowboys team… They do not play as well with the pressure on.

Cowboys fan or not you have to admit that Tony Romo has progressed and is at the worst a top seven quarterback in the NFL and probably the most exciting to watch. And in a league loaded with talented signal callers, top seven is not bad at all. Here are how I rate the Dallas Cowboys top to bottom in comparison to the rest of the National Football League:

QB – NFL Rank: 7

I have Tony Romo as the 7th best quarterback in the NFL behind Manning, Brees, Brady, Rivers, Favre(he’s not retiring, end the debates) and Big Ben(I don’t care what he does off the field, he’s a stud on it), no pun intended, with Aaron Rodgers a close 8th. I could not stand when two years ago everyone was saying Romo couldn’t “win the big game” or “couldn’t win in December”. Peyton Manning is arguably a top five quarterback of all time and didn’t win his first playoff game until 2004 vs Denver, six years after he made his first NFL start. Could you even fathom if the Colts gave up on Manning after two or three years like Dallas fans were ready to do with Romo? It sounds absurd… because it is. Tony Romo won his third playoff start in only his third full season as Cowboys signal caller and beleive me there will be many more to come. To refresh your memory his only two losses were to a Seattle team that the Cowboys should have beat, Dallas fans remember it as the Romo muffed FG game, and to the eventual Super Bowl Champion New York Giants who in the same great playoff run completely shut down a then 18-0 New England team. I still think the Cowboys didn’t do enough this offseason to be the first host of a Super Bowl next Febuary, but it has to do with reasons other than Tony Romo. We’ll get to that later.

RB – NFL Rank: 8

One thing that has got to remain consistent for the “Boys to be a perennial contender is their run game. More goes into a good run game then just a good back. As we’ve witnessed over the years, running backs are a dime a dozen. Here are three things that matter, almost more than the back himself:

1) Offensive Line. A good, and really a great offensive line is imperative to a solid run game, unless your Steven Jackson.

2) Scheme. Running scheme is more important now than almost ever before in the NFL. The Cowboys are the best in the league at this. Three to Six times a game they run a draw, usually to Felix Jones, and its always set up differently. You’ve seen it, and you always know when its coming, so do defenses, but its so hard to stop because of the way Jason Garrett designes the runs. No two are alike in the same game, there’s always something different, even if its a slight shift, or direction of handoff or Tony faking a pass to one way or another(he’s the best at this), and its almost always good for five plus yards.

3) Passing. The Cowboys are obviously an above average passing team, but ask 07-08 Adrian Peterson. If your team can’t pass the ball and the defense can put eight in the box, forget about it. Nothing to worry about here but it’s very important. When Romo went down two seasons ago and missed 3 games, Dallas tried to pound the ball and make Brad Johnson throw the ball as few as possible/necessary. Didn’t matter, Dallas could only squeeze out a win against a below average Tampa Bay team, mainly because of a fade to Roy “worst trade in franchise history unless you want to argue Joey Galloway” Williams(I started him that game on my fantasy team by the way) so I’m not *****ing but the week before Dallas was blown out by a below average St. Louis team. Bottom line, you need to be able to throw the ball.

For the record the teams I have ranked better then Dallas in no particular order: Rams, Titans, Jets, Vikings, Dolphins, Panthers and Ravens, who by the way have the most exciting back in football at the moment. The teams teetering below Dallas, the Broncos, and yes, the Detroit Lions, assuming Jhavid Best can be who he was early in college and stay healthy, I loved that draft pick by the way. People will call me crazy for this one, and they’re probably right, but I love Best, this could be a case of bias getting the best of me.

WR – NFL Rank: 8

Just so we’re clear I’m talking about wide receivers, not receiving corps, I’m not including TE’s or RB’s or any combination, just the Wide Receiver position. Some may think eight is a little high, and they may be right. A lot of my rating these receivers goes into how well Dez Bryant plays, and for the record I think he’ll be a stud. With Miles Austin’s surge to stardom last season, the fact that I don’t think Roy Williams can possibly be this bad every season the addition of Dez Bryant, and Patrick Crayton’s ability to make big catches on 3rd downs(unless we’re talking about the Divisional Playoffs against the Giants a few years back) the “Boys have a chance to do some great things at this position. Side note: Am I the only person who still owns an Antonio Bryant jersey and realizes that, if I still wore jerseys, i could pretend its a Dez Bryant jersey and not have to go buy a new number 88 Bryant jersey? Moving On…

TE – NFL Rank: 1

The one position I can honestly say the the Cowboys are number one in is the TE position. Every year it seems to come up that maybe it’s Gonzalez, or Gates. Its not even a debate. What Jason Witten brings to the tight end position is un-paralelled. I was at the Dallas-Philly game in ‘07 when Witten got popped, his helmet flew off then he continued sprinting down field for an extra 30-40 yards. I know helmets fly off all the time in the NFL these days for whatever reason, be it face time or what have you. Witten isn’t a diva, he got nailed, but stayed up, regathered himself and headed toward the end zone. Jason only missed one game his entire career. His rookie season he missed one game after breaking his jaw. ONE GAME! Tough dude. Keith Rivers got planted by Hines Ward, broke his jaw and missed the rest of the season his rookie year. Welcome to the NFL. Some guys are just wired like that, “there’s no way I’m sitting down, I’ll play through it.” Not everyone has that toughness in them. It’s will. He played most of last season with a broken rib, killer injury for someone who doesn’t take a play off and prides himself in being an all around tight end. Great blocker, great route runner, great hands, he’s the total package. Keith Rivers got lit up, I’m not doubting his missing the rest of the season his rookie year by any stretch of the imagination, but some guys, Brett Favre, Peyton Manning, Allen Iverson, Paul Pierce, Cal Ripken, just have it. I’m not saying Keith Rivers doesn’t, but Jason Witten definitely does. Oh yea, Martellus Bennett is coming around too.

FB – NFL Rank: 22

Okay I’m not going to lie, I didn’t exactly do my homework on this one. I pretty much picked a number looking at NFL teams and ran with it, it just happens to also be Emmitt’s number so I felt good about it. Deon is an above average run-blocker who will catch passes out of the backfield when asked to do so. the Cowboys don’t rely on a fullback as much as other teams. They run more 2 tight end sets and multiple receiver sets. Deon gets the job done, contributes on special teams(12 tackles last year) and the C Boys could be worse at this position. They have someone content in his role and who plays it well. Let’s just keep him away from Valet attendants and security guards.

Offensive Line – NFL Rank: 15

Offensive Line is one of my favorite positions in football as a whole. It collectively is the most important position in football other than quarterback, no debate. I once had a respectable football guy tell me to watch the offensive lines, don’t even pay attention to the play. Tell me who is winning the line of scrimmage battle and without watching the play you have an idea of weather or not it was a ‘positive’ play. He was right. The reason the Giants ended the Pats bid for a perfect season in Super Bowl XLII was how they dominated the line of scrimmage in that game. Any receiver can get open and any quarterback will find that receiver if given all day. Same goes for running back. Any back can run through a big hole. It all revolves around that big offensive unit. Dallas did good by cutting Flozell, he was old and couldn’t block guys even when tripping them. I’m just not certain Doug Free or Pat McQuistan is an upgrade. Free played well when playing for Marc Columbo, but that was on right side, left tackle is a completely different position. Teams blitz more from that side of the field, and how the cowboys handle the blitz will be very important to their success, luckily they have one of the more athletic quarterbacks in the league, and he has a knack for avoiding the hit or sack and improvising to find the open man. A big miss in the draft this years was not finding a suitable left tackle. I completely understand and love the Dez Bryant pick, but left tackle and safetly were big needs and neither were addressed agressively. I know Dallas drafted both a tackle and a safety consecutively(Safety Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, from IUP in the 4th round and Tackle Sam Young out of Notre Dame in the 6th), but both were bigger needs than the team leads on. The rest of the line is pretty solid, I love Andre Gurode and Leonard Davis(although a bit over-priced), Kyle Kosier is solid and the aforementioned Marc Columbo is a solid right. Dallas had to do what they had to do with the Bryant pick, and made the right choice. Every tackle Dallas would have liked to pick was gone at that point(5 tackles taken before Dallas’ 24th pick). But the Cowboys are not deep at the position and injuries are part of the game. Tony Romo was tied with Brett Favre for the 9th most sacked QB of 2009(34 times). Of the quarterbacks who were sacked more, Big Ben and NFL’s A-Rod with 50, Jason Campbell(43), David Garrard and Matt Cassell(42), Joe Flacco(36) and Cutler/McNabb(35) and Brett equal to Tony’s 34, only Joe Flacco and Brett Favre had respectable O-Lines, with Minnesota’s being stellar. How this unit plays together will be vital to the teams success both in the regular season and the post season. On to the “D”

DL/LB - NFL Rank: 8

I group the front 7 together because of the differences in NFL defenses these days. The Cowboys have a great D-Line for a 3-4 scheme anchored by Jay Ratliff. The LB corps was much better last season with the addition of Keith Brooking. Demarcus Ware is the best pass rushing outside linebacker in the game, bar none. No player in the NFL last season had more quarterback pressures than D-Ware. Last year he unofficially had 84 pressures, which is a combination of pressures, hits on the QB and sacks. D-Ware finished with 56 pressures, 17 QB hits and 11 sacks, and that is with constant double teams and running backs chipping him all game long. Ware beat a block to apply pressure every 7.8 rushes. Only the Colts Dwight Freeney was better with 6.14. I still think the Cowboys should have went for Offensive Tackle in March’s draft with their second choice. Sean Lee, LB from Penn State was a solid choice with the 55th pick, but I would have liked to see maybe John Jerry out of Ole Miss. Another smart pick by Bill Parcells 18 picks later. Demarcus Ware, Anthony Spencer and Jay Ratliff combined for 23 sacks last season. D-Ware had 20 himself the previous year with Greg Ellis, Bradie James and Jay Ratliff combining for 23.5, half a sack more than the total of the Cowboys top 3 pass rushers from a year ago. I continue to stress how important controlling the line of scrimmage is, if you can’t get to the quarterback and you can’t protect your quarterback forget about it.

Cornerback – NFL Rank: 12

Cornerback is such a hard position to determine. So many factors go into how your corners play. In my lifetime I’ve really only ever seen two shutdown corners. Corners where, it didn’t matter if the quarterback had all day, you weren’t throwing the ball his direction. Deion Sanders and Darrelle Revis. Keep in mind I never really got to WATCH Ronnie Lott, Dick LeBeau, Eric Wright, Night Train or Hanford Dixon. You could make arguments for Ty Law, Champ Bailey and maybe Ronde Barber in their primes, but I’ll stick with Sanders or Revis over anyone of those last three guys. As for the Cowboys, Terrence Newman, when healthy is great. He’s not a shut down corner but has the speed to run with just about anyone and his tackling in the open field is sensational from a cornerback’s standards. Mike Jenkins was huge for Dallas last year and needs to be again this year. I loved the pick out of South Florida, he needed a year to learn some things and got that under his belt. Jenkins led the Cowboys in Interceptions with 5, passes defended with 19, had the same number of tackles as D-Ware(45), which is also more tackles than both safeties, Ken Hamlin and Gerald Sensabaugh. It all goes back to getting to the quarteback, the Cowboys were statistically worse defending the pass the year before, even with having substantially more sacks, but they gave away two wins when Romo went down. Turn them 2 losses into wins, or a split and they’re in the playoffs. Dallas also let up 600 fewer yards in ‘08. When you can get to the quarterback, that’s lost plays for the other teams offense and it will make your secondary, especially your corners, look better.

Safety – NFL Rank: 29th

This is the Dallas Cowboys number one weakness. I love what Gerald Sensabaugh brings to the table, but he’s only barely above average. Akwasi Owusu-Ansah was a good draft pick just because Dallas needed a safety. Dallas also needs a safety ready to play right away. If the *cough* pass rush is as good as it should be then the ‘Boys should be able to hide their safety woes. I like Allan Ball. I don’t know if I like Allan Ball as one of my starting safeties if the other one isn’t spectacular. The Cowboys absolutely have got to make a run at Oshiomogho Atogwe. I love the lack of spending this offseason, you can’t buy championships. The one free agent the Cowboys should go after though is Atogwe. He has potential to fall in the ‘Boys lap, pick him up! There is a good chance I’m making a bigger deal about the safety situation than I should, but I’ve watched the ‘Boys get burned at that position since Darren Woodson retired. Roy Williams was good, but couldn’t cover, Ken Hamlin was solid, but I don’t disagree with his release. I would have loved Taylor Mays out of USC but after taking Dez Bryant, well you can’t have everyone. So Atogwe is there, and could be the final piece to building a championship team. He takes away a minimum of 4 big plays a year with his pass coverage, which could be the difference in a few of those games, get him.

P – NFL Rank: Top 5

Matt McBriar is probably a top 5 punter in the National Football League. He places the ball well and has one hell of a leg, not a bad thing.

K – NFL Rank: Does Dallas even have a Kicker??

Having a great kicker isn’t vital, ask the Saints. Garret Hartly came out of no where to go five for five in the playoffs including a few of the biggest kicks of any kickers’ career who has the opportunity to be put in that position, starting with his overtime game winner vs Minny. All five of his kicks were in the 40-49 yard range and four out of the five were huge(every kick except his 43 yarder in a blowout win vs Arizona. Nevertheless you do need a kicker, Dallas will find somebody.
 
WR – NFL Rank: 8

Really? Really?

Can someone, anyone, name me 7 teams with better receivers than the Cowboys?

Nice try fanboy, but this ***essment is junk.
 
He forgot about long snapper, kick off specialist, and gunners...
 
stasheroo;3423965 said:
Really? Really?

Can someone, anyone, name me 7 teams with better receivers than the Cowboys?

Nice try fanboy, but this ***essment is junk.
let me try, just top of my head what he was thinking. again lets not include dez yet (or rate him as high since he hasn't signed yet)

Indy
New Orleans
Patriots
Minny
GB
maybe giants
maybe houston
maybe SD

there is arguments to be made.

by mid season next year we will defintley be top 5.
 
CowboysFaninDC;3424039 said:
let me try, just top of my head what he was thinking. again lets not include dez yet (or rate him as high since he hasn't signed yet)

Indy
New Orleans
Patriots
Minny
GB
maybe giants
maybe houston
maybe SD

there is arguments to be made.

by mid season next year we will defintley be top 5.
none of the teams you mentioned have better WR personell than Dallas...they maybe have a better combination of OL protection and playcallers...but not better personell. Having said that, protection and play callers MUST be factored in when assessing the passing game. And you cannot score 22 points a game and be considered an elite offense.
 
I wanna say our front 7 is easily better than 8th in the league. I can think of how we could improve in that area, but who's better? I honestly can't think of 7 other teams with better personnel. Not to mention, we have pretty good depth with young backup LB's... Also, Bowen, Hatcher... etc.
 
CowboysFaninDC;3424039 said:
let me try, just top of my head what he was thinking. again lets not include dez yet (or rate him as high since he hasn't signed yet)

Indy
New Orleans
Patriots
Minny
GB
maybe giants
maybe houston
maybe SD

there is arguments to be made.

by mid season next year we will defintley be top 5.

I appreciate the effort, but I wouldn't agree with many of them to be honest.

Indianapolis has a nice group, but Wayne is harping about a new deal so we'll see where that leaves them (and we can't include Collie because he was a rookie last year, right?).

I wouldn't take the Saints group over ours even if they were healthy which they aren't.

The Patriots have an aging and disgruntled Randy Moss and Wes Welker coming off of major knee reconstruction. And not much else. Again, I'll take ours.

Minnesota has Sydney Rice - who has established himself as a great receiver and Percy Harvin had a great rookie year (but since we can't count rookies I won't include him). Berrian is an overpaid tease who doesn't impress me.

Green Bay has a great system but Jennings had a down year and Driver looks to be slowing, they do have good overall depth though.

The rest I don't think need a response other than "no".
 
CowboysFaninDC;3424039 said:
let me try, just top of my head what he was thinking. again lets not include dez yet (or rate him as high since he hasn't signed yet)

Indy
New Orleans
Patriots
Minny
GB
maybe giants
maybe houston
maybe SD

there is arguments to be made.

by mid season next year we will defintley be top 5.

Wow, then the 8th ranking is pretty high. Especially since the only WRs we have signed are Roy, Crayton, Hurd, Ogletree, Ryan, Johnson, and Holley.
 
stasheroo;3424265 said:
I appreciate the effort, but I wouldn't agree with many of them to be honest.

Indianapolis has a nice group, but Wayne is harping about a new deal so we'll see where that leaves them (and we can't include Collie because he was a rookie last year, right?).

I wouldn't take the Saints group over ours even if they were healthy which they aren't.

The Patriots have an aging and disgruntled Randy Moss and Wes Welker coming off of major knee reconstruction. And not much else. Again, I'll take ours.

Minnesota has Sydney Rice - who has established himself as a great receiver and Percy Harvin had a great rookie year (but since we can't count rookies I won't include him). Berrian is an overpaid tease who doesn't impress me.

Green Bay has a great system but Jennings had a down year and Driver looks to be slowing, they do have good overall depth though.

The rest I don't think need a response other than "no".

You're right all those teams have definite questions marks.

Unlike Roy who has already turned his career around and Dez who has already caught 1300 yards as a rookie.
 
InmanRoshi;3424271 said:
You're right all those teams have definite questions marks.

Unlike Roy who has already turned his career around and Dez who has already caught 1300 yards as a rookie.

Gee thanks Mr Sarcasm! Who riled you up today?

If Roy does only as well as he did last season and Bryant has an average rookie season I'll take our group over most every other.

In looking at how many rookie receivers came into the league and had solid contributions last year, I have hopes that Dez Bryant can do just as well if not better.

Crayton is still on this team and Ogletree should build off of a nice rookie season as well.
 
bbailey423;3424186 said:
none of the teams you mentioned have better WR personell than Dallas...they maybe have a better combination of OL protection and playcallers...but not better personell. Having said that, protection and play callers MUST be factored in when assessing the passing game. And you cannot score 22 points a game and be considered an elite offense.

well there is always debates and arguments.

lets see

Indy - they have wayne, garcon and collie. wayne is better and more proven than austin. collie and garcon are certainly better than crayton and williams and dez is not proven. I give the nod to indy.

New Orleans - Colston, Henderson, Meacham. Colston is proven henderson and meacham (specially at the end of the year) were better than crayton and williams. again dez may tip the balance here. so there is an argument to be made there. if dez shows anything the balance will tip to dallas.

Patriots: lets see moss, welker, Moss, both of whom as good as Austin, much better than williams and crayton and edlemen coming on at the end of they year has similar stats to crayton. with Dez in the picture, it might still be a toss up. so there is an argument to be made.


Minny - Rice, Harvin, Berrian. I say rice was as good if not better than austin. harvin and berrian defintley better than crayton williams. dez could tip it over since he can be comparable to harvin in our case. there is an argument there.

the following three is just what I thought he might be thinking. not that I agree with him. again I said he might be thinking this.
GB - their top 2 ain't as good as ours. but their passing game is good.

maybe giants - same as above
maybe houston - I take johnson over austin any day of the week. he is top 3 in the league.

maybe SD - they have vincent jackson, but clearly their top recieving target is gates and we are not including TEs.

couple of other teams in the frey

AZ - yes they lost bolding but they have Fitzgerald, IMO another top 3 in the league. they have breaston who was a 1000 yard receiver a couple of years back, battled injuries last year and still posted respectable numbers.

Eagles - They have Mclain, Jackson and Avant. though jackson didn't post numbers like austin, mclain and aavant out produced williams and crayton and dez may post comparable numbers to McClain.

again, let me repeat, I am not saying he was right. just saying he might have been thinking this way. I don't think we have the top WR group in the league even with Dez, since I don't think he is going to take the league by storm and reset all kinds of records like some cowboys fans are making him out to be. but we are top 5 for sure. we can make a hard argument for top 3.
 
jswalker1981;3424267 said:
Wow, then the 8th ranking is pretty high. Especially since the only WRs we have signed are Roy, Crayton, Hurd, Ogletree, Ryan, Johnson, and Holley.

was that your attempt at being funny? you miss the mark
 
Ntegrase96;3424259 said:
I wanna say our front 7 is easily better than 8th in the league. I can think of how we could improve in that area, but who's better? I honestly can't think of 7 other teams with better personnel. Not to mention, we have pretty good depth with young backup LB's... Also, Bowen, Hatcher... etc.

\that I totally agree with. with rat and ware and spencer. there isn't any team in the league that can boast. on the backend of the front 7 we may lack but certain the top 3, we are the best.
 
stasheroo;3424265 said:
I appreciate the effort, but I wouldn't agree with many of them to be honest.

Indianapolis has a nice group, but Wayne is harping about a new deal so we'll see where that leaves them (and we can't include Collie because he was a rookie last year, right?). so what he is harping about a new contract? he is still better than Austin. plus his point wasn't about teams players, contract situations, etc. maybe a couple of years down the line Austin will surpass him. but not yet. collie was a rookie who proved to be better than roy williams. he is going into his second year. similar argument can be made about austin. is he a one year wonder?

I wouldn't take the Saints group over ours even if they were healthy which they aren't. I won't disagree with you. but they have a dangerous group and were a better group than us last year. with dez in the picture and his 1800 yards that he will catch according to some then we are a better group.

The Patriots have an aging and disgruntled Randy Moss and Wes Welker coming off of major knee reconstruction. And not much else. Again, I'll take ours. so what moss is disgruntled? he is still one of the better WRs. you can't deny welker. if they have edlemen contribute in anyway, its a tough group. the patriots fans may say just the opposite.

Minnesota has Sydney Rice - who has established himself as a great receiver and Percy Harvin had a great rookie year (but since we can't count rookies I won't include him). Berrian is an overpaid tease who doesn't impress me.
don't forget. if you are arguing about not counting rookies, harvin is not a rookie any more. dez is. so right now harvin and rice are a dangerous duo and berrian despite the dislike still had 55 and 618. not bad for a #3. we are not considering contract size, because if we did, dallas would be the middle of the pack with RW contract and his production.

Green Bay has a great system but Jennings had a down year and Driver looks to be slowing, they do have good overall depth though. I agree. GB has a system that works and individually their WRs don't have great stats but as a team they are very good. I do think we are better than them.

The rest I don't think need a response other than "no".

like I said. I think we are top 5, if dez does anything remotely good for a rookie, we are top 3 and we can argue that until the cows come home
 
Originally Posted by stasheroo
I appreciate the effort, but I wouldn't agree with many of them to be honest.

Indianapolis has a nice group, but Wayne is harping about a new deal so we'll see where that leaves them (and we can't include Collie because he was a rookie last year, right?). so what he is harping about a new contract? he is still better than Austin. plus his point wasn't about teams players, contract situations, etc. maybe a couple of years down the line Austin will surpass him. but not yet. collie was a rookie who proved to be better than roy williams. he is going into his second year. similar argument can be made about austin. is he a one year wonder? By your rules, Collie doesn't count. He was a rookie last season, like Dez Bryant. Dez doesn't count, Collie doesn't either.

I wouldn't take the Saints group over ours even if they were healthy which they aren't. I won't disagree with you. but they have a dangerous group and were a better group than us last year. with dez in the picture and his 1800 yards that he will catch according to some then we are a better group. Meachem is out until at least training camp after surgery on his toe. I think that could be a big factor. The Saints have a great system, but I don't think that overall they have better receivers.

The Patriots have an aging and disgruntled Randy Moss and Wes Welker coming off of major knee reconstruction. And not much else. Again, I'll take ours. so what moss is disgruntled? he is still one of the better WRs. you can't deny welker. if they have edlemen contribute in anyway, its a tough group. the patriots fans may say just the opposite. Ask the Raiders about a disgruntled Moss. And Welker shredded his knee late last season. Usually takes an athlete at least a year to fully recover from that.

Minnesota has Sydney Rice - who has established himself as a great receiver and Percy Harvin had a great rookie year (but since we can't count rookies I won't include him). Berrian is an overpaid tease who doesn't impress me.
don't forget. if you are arguing about not counting rookies, harvin is not a rookie any more. dez is. so right now harvin and rice are a dangerous duo and berrian despite the dislike still had 55 and 618. not bad for a #3. we are not considering contract size, because if we did, dallas would be the middle of the pack with RW contract and his production. That's right, not counting contracts because on the field, it's not a factor. You're the one who said not to count rookies, so we won't. I don't see how it's fair to not count Bryant because he's a rookie and then count guys like Collie and Harvin who did what they did in their rookie seasons.

Green Bay has a great system but Jennings had a down year and Driver looks to be slowing, they do have good overall depth though. I agree. GB has a system that works and individually their WRs don't have great stats but as a team they are very good. I do think we are better than them.

The rest I don't think need a response other than "no".


CowboysFaninDC;3424379 said:
like I said. I think we are top 5, if dez does anything remotely good for a rookie, we are top 3 and we can argue that until the cows come home

Considering his obvious talent, and the way that rookies have been able to step in and contribute as rookies - like the aforementioned Austin Collie, Percy Harvin, and several others, I think it's realistic to assume that Dez Bryant can make a solid contribution to an already deep group.
 
Juke99;3423922 said:
To refresh your memory his only two losses were to a Seattle team that the Cowboys should have beat, Dallas fans remember it as the Romo muffed FG game, and to the eventual Super Bowl Champion New York Giants who in the same great playoff run completely shut down a then 18-0 New England team.

Anyone else see something wrong with this?
 
Realizing full well that I'm setting myself up for bbgun and friends :D to call me a homer, I'm thinking this guy has us quite underrated at several positions/groups.

I don't think you can find 5 teams with better units anywhere outside of RB (and isn't a slight on our RB's, but rather a testament to the level of RB's throughout the league), OL, Safety, FB, and Kicker.

This team is "stacked", and has some serious depth in most positions as well.
 
interesting to consider but i'd argue qb as related to roflraper. that guy is a good 4th qtr qb but he also collects sacks like he does stall visits. and for this year he will miss games. plus he is minus 2 spots for the mullet. every team in the league should play the theme from deliverance when he enters the stadium.

front 7 is a huge dallas boon. i'd say top 5 easily there. minny is right there with us but that is about it. we have two all-pros amongst the front 7 with ware and ratliff.

wr corps is very tough because you have to project. you can't ignore that dez will play and probably do so a lot so counting him as some non-factor makes the rankings useless. i put him in at what percy harvin did last year. figure miles has a slightly more consistent but less explosive season and rw11 does more with less chances. ogletree will have a package of plays such as the bubble screen and reverses.

our concerns are well known: safety, ol, kicker.
 

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