NetDugout: Rating the Cowboys

[NoLuv4Jerry]

well there is always debates and arguments.

lets see

Indy - they have wayne, garcon and collie. wayne is better and more proven than austin. collie and garcon are certainly better than crayton and williams and dez is not proven. I give the nod to indy.

New Orleans - Colston, Henderson, Meacham. Colston is proven henderson and meacham (specially at the end of the year) were better than crayton and williams. again dez may tip the balance here. so there is an argument to be made there. if dez shows anything the balance will tip to dallas.

Patriots: lets see moss, welker, Moss, both of whom as good as Austin, much better than williams and crayton and edlemen coming on at the end of they year has similar stats to crayton. with Dez in the picture, it might still be a toss up. so there is an argument to be made.


Minny - Rice, Harvin, Berrian. I say rice was as good if not better than austin. harvin and berrian defintley better than crayton williams. dez could tip it over since he can be comparable to harvin in our case. there is an argument there.

the following three is just what I thought he might be thinking. not that I agree with him. again I said he might be thinking this.
GB - their top 2 ain't as good as ours. but their passing game is good.

maybe giants - same as above
maybe houston - I take johnson over austin any day of the week. he is top 3 in the league.

maybe SD - they have vincent jackson, but clearly their top recieving target is gates and we are not including TEs.

couple of other teams in the frey

AZ - yes they lost bolding but they have Fitzgerald, IMO another top 3 in the league. they have breaston who was a 1000 yard receiver a couple of years back, battled injuries last year and still posted respectable numbers.

Eagles - They have Mclain, Jackson and Avant. though jackson didn't post numbers like austin, mclain and aavant out produced williams and crayton and dez may post comparable numbers to McClain.

again, let me repeat, I am not saying he was right. just saying he might have been thinking this way. I don't think we have the top WR group in the league even with Dez, since I don't think he is going to take the league by storm and reset all kinds of records like some cowboys fans are making him out to be. but we are top 5 for sure. we can make a hard argument for top 3.

Wayne has certainly been more productive than Austin...but what Austin did while starting 11 games is UNREAL. Especially when you consdier we are MUCH more of a running team than Indy. And if Collie and Garcon are better than the rest of what we have...then not only has Jerry Jones been duped by acquiring Roy...but every coach/scout on every level starting with high school have been wrong about Roy
Colston is good....would not take him over Austin. And are we really touting Devery Henderson? The same Devery Henderson who could never get on the field in Dallas...and essentially got cut in Dallas
I like the Packers WR corps
The Pats. Of course Moss is a HOFer....Welker has been productive. But they do not run the ball...so their stats will reflect that they are primarily a throwing team. But again...cannot say I would trade what they got for what we got. We have youth and health on our side over them.
Minny...no way. Very good...but would not say better
Ariz - now you are talking. Very underrated group...if they keep Bolding they would have the best personell in the business...might now show without Warner though.
Giants - solid...would not classify as better
Eagles - got some burners. Don't really see any chain movers. No grinders. No tough catches. Big plays. Again, another team that does not run the ball

 

[jswalker1981]

was that your attempt at being funny? you miss the mark

Nope, that's my attempt to show that you can include WRs not signed yet. If you aren't going to include Dez, then you can't include Austin. Both could just sit out for the entire season if they want to. They won't. But don't act as if Dez doesn't count towards the WRs corp just because he isn't under contract. Neither is Austin.

 

[Big D]

Just some fun stuff...

Rating the Dallas Cowboys from Quarterback to Kicker


K – NFL Rank: Does Dallas even have a Kicker??

Having a great kicker isn’t vital, ask the Saints. Garret Hartly came out of no where to go five for five in the playoffs including a few of the biggest kicks of any kickers’ career who has the opportunity to be put in that position, starting with his overtime game winner vs Minny. All five of his kicks were in the 40-49 yard range and four out of the five were huge(every kick except his 43 yarder in a blowout win vs Arizona. Nevertheless you do need a kicker, Dallas will find somebody.

Kicking accounts for much of a teams scoring. If our kicking game is weak we'll suffer for it. The Buehler will be tested.

 

[Hoods]

By your rules, Collie doesn't count. He was a rookie last season, like Dez Bryant. Dez doesn't count, Collie doesn't either.

Sorry this is annoying me- where does he say anything about more proven second year players? This argument would make sense if Collie was a rookie now, can you explain this logic?

 

[Stash]

Sorry this is annoying me- where does he say anything about more proven second year players? This argument would make sense if Collie was a rookie now, can you explain this logic?

If Dez Bryant 'doesn't count' simply because he's a rookie, why should anyone else's rookie contributions matter?

Bryant's got more talent and ability than any of the rookie receivers from last season. I think it's ridiculous to say he doesn't 'count'.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

He be so wrong I hope he goes to hell.

 

[evarc]

let me try, just top of my head what he was thinking. again lets not include dez yet (or rate him as high since he hasn't signed yet)

Indy - no
New Orleans
Patriots - no
Minny
maybe GB
maybe giants - no
maybe houston
maybe SD - no
maybe Arizona

there is arguments to be made.

by mid season next year we will defintley be top 5.

I put us at 6 maybe 5 and a stretch for 4.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

let me try, just top of my head what he was thinking. again lets not include dez yet (or rate him as high since he hasn't signed yet)

Indy
New Orleans
Patriots
Minny
GB
maybe giants
maybe houston
maybe SD

there is arguments to be made.

by mid season next year we will defintley be top 5.

Don't forget the Bengals have a pretty sick squad at WR.